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Put it like this. Once McNabb left, Reid and the Eagles didn't reach what McNabb did without him. In fact I'll go a step further and say Reid won't have be a HC of a team that goes as far as he did with McNabb

 

The flip side can just as easily be argued... what did McNabb accomplish in Washington without Reid?  Say what you want about Shanny, but the man has two Super Bowl rings.

 

Andy Reid just took a team that drafted #1 overall the previous year and took them to the playoffs in his first year.

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McNabb and Reid probably made each other look good.  I wouldn't necessarily underrate or overrate either one of them.  I will say that McNabb was over the hill by the time he got to Washington, and I believe that the younger version of McNabb would have been a franchise type QB anywhere  I will also say that Reid should be given a modicum of credit for seeing Alex Smith's potential and trying to maximize it, but Alex Smith showed flashes of greatness two years before. The lion's share of Smith's coming out---other than the QB himself---goes to Jim Harbaugh.  Harbaugh also has to take "credit" for dealing Smith, a shortsighted move which I seriously believe may have cost him a better look at the Super Bowl last year, as I believe Smith would have maximized his tools in SanFran, which are decidedly better than what he has in K.C.  You really can't blame the implosion in the playoff game on him. That was on Andy Reid...and a lack of weapons at receiver. Moreover, no way Alex Smith under-performs early in the season like Kaepernick and has a fourth quarter meltdown that cost his team the game.  Oh, the tales we weave. 

 

If anyone is overrated, it is Shanahan who has basically done nothing since a couple of outstanding years with John Elway (who basically figured it all out and got a couple at the end of his career). I have to give Shanny his obligatory props for getting over the hump though. He did leave Washington in a quagmire by which began with his mishandling of McNabb, and just got worse with the debacle that he helped to create by misusing RG3. Again, the tales we weave.

 

Hey! This thread is about Brandin Cooks. I am getting it back on the rails.  Why don't all you thousands of twitterers and Huddlers ask Smitty what he thinks of Cooks and the comparisons? I know one thing: We can't call Cooks, Smith Jr. or Lil Smitty or Baby Smitty. Smit Lite? Sounds like a lite beer.

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There are several ways to build this castle. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer if the puzzle pieces fit.

I agree with this^^^

The scenario you presented wasn't bad and probably doable. I'm very interested to see what and how our front office makes happen this offseason.

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We're the only franchise with a midget as our #1 target. It's not the norm. Every so-called elite QB in the league have at least one jump ball receiver on their team.

 

Seahawk fans would disagree.

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I agree with this^^^

The scenario you presented wasn't bad and probably doable. I'm very interested to see what and how our front office makes happen this offseason.

Yeah I am very anxious.

I hope we get a big target to go along with any receiver if his measurables are like Cooks, but I do think Cooks will show up more than Tavon. He is a better pass catcher.

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Everyone is putting too much stock into the height of a WR - something that I was doing until 11 days ago. Look at the Super Bowl champions. Who are their top 3 WR corp?

 

1. Golden Tate - 5'10" 202lbs

2. Doug Baldwin - 5'10" 189lbs

3. Percy Harvin - 5'11" 184lbs

 

Not a single guy is above 6 ft. Cooks has a similar stature to Harvin, and we saw in the Super Bowl just how dangerous he can be when healthy. If the guy is a play maker and really shows some promise during the combine, I say we pick him up depending on who is around for our 1st pick. I'm also a big fan of Landry, as that guy can literally catch anything thrown at him.

 

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I think you're overrating the hell out of McNabb.  Andy Reid makes every QB look good. 

McNabb wasn't the most accurate QB but he was a playmaker. He bough his receivers a lot of time to get open. That dude would open up the game with a 60 yard bomb every other game. That's confidence right there. The guy executed the plays and bailed Reid's stupidity countless time. Reid had always been a coaching liability. He relied on QBs who can bail him out. He doesn't have that luxury anymore and you see what happens in the wild card game.

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Everyone is putting too much stock into the height of a WR - something that I was doing until 11 days ago. Look at the Super Bowl champions. Who are their top 3 WR corp?

 

1. Golden Tate - 5'10" 202lbs

2. Doug Baldwin - 5'10" 189lbs

3. Percy Harvin - 5'11" 184lbs

 

Not a single guy is above 6 ft. Cooks has a similar stature to Harvin, and we saw in the Super Bowl just how dangerous he can be when healthy. If the guy is a play maker and really shows some promise during the combine, I say we pick him up depending on who is around for our 1st pick. I'm also a big fan of Landry, as that guy can literally catch anything thrown at him.

 

I pied you newbie for your train of thought, but

 

Moreover, look at their receivers. They aren't the tallest or biggest guys in the league, but I will laugh at anyone who says that they aren't smart, tough and effective, particularly during money time.

 

Golden Tate

5'10", ~200

 

Doug Baldwin

5'10", ~190

 

Jermaine Kearse

6'1" ~210

 

Percy harvin

5'11", ~185

 

And to think, their QB has received plenty of "shade" for his lack of size (5'11", ~205), and he's basically bigger than his receivers. But, you know, Wilson is smart as a whip also who plays big during money time.

 

 

All I am saying is that these things are worth thinking about when it comes time for free agency and the draft. I know that many of us are thinking size, size, size, but this doesn't necessarily make champions. Brandin Cooks and Marquise Lee may lead their future teams to the promised land.

 

 

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McNabb wasn't the most accurate QB but he was a playmaker. He bough his receivers a lot of time to get open. That dude would open up the game with a 60 yard bomb every other game. That's confidence right there. The guy executed the plays and bailed Reid's stupidity countless time. Reid had always been a coaching liability. He relied on QBs who can bail him out. He doesn't have that luxury anymore and you see what happens in the wild card game.

 

You are out of your mind regarding Reid.  I don't think the guy is the greatest head coach in the world by any means, but he DOES work wonders with QBs.

 

QBs like AJ Feeley and Kevin Kolb?  Awful.  But Reid made them look like legit NFL QBs and turned them into good trade bait. 

 

You're really pointing to the wildcard game to say that Reid can't coach QBs???  Alex Smith probably had the best game of his career.  The guy was 30-46 for 378 yards, 4 TDs, and 0 INTs.  Add another 8 carries for 57 yards to that as well.  KC's defense just plain poo the bed in that game.  Alex Smith and that offense played out of their minds.

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This years Tavon Austin.

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Here is the latest on Cooks by the way (from Greg Gabriel of the National Football Post)

 

He is an excellent athlete with speed and very good body control. I would estimate his play speed as being in the 4.45 area. He has very good quickness, instant change of direction, and can stop and start as quickly as any player I have ever seen.

In the Oregon State offense, he isn’t required to run a lot of different routes, but he does run very good routes. He can cut very quickly and easily gains separation. His ability to cut multiple times in a route and stay under control is rare. He is used mostly on bubble screens, comebacks, crossing routes, and go routes. He has very good hands and easily adjusts to the ball in the air. He consistently catches the ball away from his body.

Despite his lack of top size, he is fearless in traffic and very competitive going after the ball. After the catch, he has excellent run skills. He is an instinctive runner who can make multiple defenders miss in space. With his burst and speed, he is a threat to turn any short catch into a long gain. 

 

These types of reports have gotten my attention, as they are pretty consistent across the board. That's what stands out most to me. The consistency about body control, and his ability to stop and start on a dime are not to be glossed over.

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You are out of your mind regarding Reid.  I don't think the guy is the greatest head coach in the world by any means, but he DOES work wonders with QBs.

 

QBs like AJ Feeley and Kevin Kolb?  Awful.  But Reid made them look like legit NFL QBs and turned them into good trade bait. 

 

You're really pointing to the wildcard game to say that Reid can't coach QBs???  Alex Smith probably had the best game of his career.  The guy was 30-46 for 378 yards, 4 TDs, and 0 INTs.  Add another 8 carries for 57 yards to that as well.  KC's defense just plain poo the bed in that game.  Alex Smith and that offense played out of their minds.

I hate giving credits for players' success. Players execute the plays. There is reason teams draft the best players for their team. Mcnabb was a high draft pick. If Reid can convert The Golden Calf of Bristol into a pro bowler then he's the greatest coach in the world.

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