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Bill Voth on Steve Smith's Situation. Basically, It Isn't Over.


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#76 ctrcat

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 03:58 AM

Ding Ding! Lock this thread we have a winner !


Love 89, but if not for his key drops in the first half against Arizona we may have a commanding lead at half and win that game. Devil's Advocate.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:22 AM

Love 89, but if not for his key drops in the first half against Arizona we may have a commanding lead at half and win that game. Devil's Advocate.

not saying he is perfect. That doesn't mean he is done. He is far from done. the only thing that could hold him back is durability but even in the playoff game he made a great catch to score the only TD against SF with a sore knee.Dude can still play and still play at a high level.The rumors of his demise are greatly exaggerated. He is a gamer and that is what we still need.



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:34 AM

I didn't say that. I said I wanted him to finish his career here. I didn't say finish it making 7 mil per.


Exactly. He has earned the right to do so. More than earned. You just make this happen.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:58 AM

Well since my name is Dave, and I have some grey hair, I feel like I've got great insight to our GM... Not at all!

Instead I will say, for me, it comes down to who else is on contract to catch passes besides Olsen and the RBs? So if we cut Smith for cap or leadership reasons, where's the replacement? Cap wise, it's at best $1.5 million, which is fairly insignificant. Cam can build raport with another WR. But we will need the guy to be able to make plays at the end of the game.

Smitty isn't the game breaker he once was, but he's still a clutch player for us. That is my primary concern for replacing Smith.

Personally, I still love 89. I want him on my team until he's ready to retire.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 07:37 AM

Big Cat won't let Smitty go anywhere. I feel this is all just offseason silly talk.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 07:50 AM

Big Cat won't let Smitty go anywhere. I feel this is all just offseason silly talk.

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I use to think this too but now I'm not so sure. I do believe that it will take the Big Cat to get this smoothed over however with Steve. If it comes down to SS and what's best for the team then Jerry will be the one to break it to Steve.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

Big Cat won't let Smitty go anywhere. I feel this is all just offseason silly talk.

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Better players than 89 with bigger impacts on the sport have been let go.....

89 brings a lot to the table and not all is positive....he is entering the stage of his career where his negatives become a bigger issues bc he isn't as important. His talent finally is replaceable.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:05 AM

Smitty was an awesome panther but he isn't worth the money. Why should we keep him? He has seriously decline, despite his firecracker attitude which seems to cover up that fact.

 

Panther fans are teh worst at attaching themselves to players. Get over it, this is a buisness, and I'd ratehr see my team win than be stuck overpaying a player, ANY player.



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:34 AM

 

 

He also makes a good point about the locker room.  He says Smitty IS THE PANTHER, for a lack of a better term, and with him in the locker room, it kind of smothers Luke and Cam from becoming the complete leaders of the team they should be.  

 

if I had to write a story, I'd play this hand..  But if I were someone actually following the Panthers, I wouldn't set up Smitty like he's the Jordan Gross of leadership.  We can only speculate, but Smitty sets a tone of winner takes all, however not exactly that leader who would be a Ray Lewis who is speaking for the team in all situations.  There is plenty of room for Cam and Luke to grow...  



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:38 AM

Smitty was an awesome panther but he isn't worth the money. Why should we keep him? He has seriously decline, despite his firecracker attitude which seems to cover up that fact.

 

Panther fans are teh worst at attaching themselves to players. Get over it, this is a buisness, and I'd ratehr see my team win than be stuck overpaying a player, ANY player.

 

if you were talking about James Anderson, Jake Delhomme, or DWill and JStew..  you'd have a point.  And if Steve Smith wasn't the only WR signed at the moment then you might be able to begin arguing that point.  



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 11:04 AM

Smitty is not going anywhere this year and this whole thing is not about this year so much as going forward. I don't think they are happy with his numbers going forward.  His contract was written with the expectation that it would be renegotiated in 2014 which is exactly what Gettleman is trying to do.  Smitty knows it but is acting like he doesn't.  He didn't like things coming out in the news and has a big enough ego that he doesn't want to be perceived as taking a cut or being devalued. Still this is not surprise and hinges on whether Smitty will restructure.  If he does he could retire a Panther.  If not then this could be his last year.  It is up to Smitty I suspect.



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 11:08 AM

I use to think this too but now I'm not so sure. I do believe that it will take the Big Cat to get this smoothed over however with Steve. If it comes down to SS and what's best for the team then Jerry will be the one to break it to Steve. Sent from my SCH-I535 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

that is a least a year down the road, I say 2 years.I predict by then most will be wanting to keep him another year.



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 11:15 AM

Better players than 89 with bigger impacts on the sport have been let go.....

89 brings a lot to the table and not all is positive....he is entering the stage of his career where his negatives become a bigger issues bc he isn't as important. His talent finally is replaceable.

He is not replaceable yet. Like I said before he has gone beyond what many expected his whole career and this will be no different.As far as importance he is more important than ever on many levels playing wise, experience wise, leadership wise, mentoring wise ...He is still a bargain at 7 mil which is only an issue because of mismanagement.

 

 What has happened to anyone else in this league really has nothing to do with this situation.



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 11:45 AM

I adore Smitty. We all do. That said, if he doesn't take a paycut, he could be a goner. Sad, but it's actually reality now that we have a cut-throat, business type of GM at the helm. On top of it all, Smitty is declining as well. We all know what's approaching. ANY reasonable GM is going to take care of situation if a settlement isn't reached -- which is very possible since both Smitty and Gettleman are carried by their convictions. Granted, Dave could have handled the situation better but this is precisely what we wanted in our GM search last year.

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 12:41 PM

If you guys think Dave hasn't thought of the fact we have no one else to catch passes, your all idiots. He knows what he's doing. He knows we don't have money to sign a big FA. He knows we can't move up in the draft to take the best WR. He knows that we need to get cam protection. He knows that McNutt and King aren't both going to turn into #1's.

Smitty ain't going anywhere and he'll take a pay cut to help the team regardless of what the idiots on WFNZ say. When he does stay we still need an upgrade at the position and find the future for it. Dave knows this.


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