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#31 MHS831

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 01:59 PM

Last year, in early March, we were way above the cap. Nobody saw the moves we would make, going 12-4, etc.  How can anyone with knowledge of Marty Hurney's last 3 years bash Gettlemen?

 

Draft:  He solified our DL to such a degree, we were the second best D in the NFL with a weak secondary.  He had 2 picks in the first 3 rounds.

 

Free Agency (bargain basement shopping):  2 starting Safeties, a rotational CB and a starting CB, a starting OLB, a starting DT, a key WR/KR, a starting LG, and (for a few games) a starting RG.

 

In fact, 3 undrafted free agents played key roles on the defense:  White CB, Lester, SS, and Horton DE.

 

This year, I think you will realize how good Klein, Barner, and T. King are.

 

If you think about how screwed up Marty Hurney left this team, what Gettlemen is doing is just short of a miracle.  I have confidence in his ability to put a good team on the field in 2014. 



#32 jptaylor84

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 02:03 PM

Last year, in early March, we were way above the cap. Nobody saw the moves we would make, going 12-4, etc. How can anyone with knowledge of Marty Hurney's last 3 years bash Gettlemen?

Draft: He solified our DL to such a degree, we were the second best D in the NFL with a weak secondary. He had 2 picks in the first 3 rounds.

Free Agency (bargain basement shopping): 2 starting Safeties, a rotational CB and a starting CB, a starting OLB, a starting DT, a key WR/KR, a starting LG, and (for a few games) a starting RG.

In fact, 3 undrafted free agents played key roles on the defense: White CB, Lester, SS, and Horton DE.

This year, I think you will realize how good Klein, Barner, and T. King are.

If you think about how screwed up Marty Hurney left this team, what Gettlemen is doing is just short of a miracle. I have confidence in his ability to put a good team on the field in 2014.


^^Good post! Very positive

#33 unicar15

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 02:12 PM

Hardy's cap number isn't gonna drastically come down. He wants 12-15 mil a year. Making his most expensive years in the years where we are trying to lock up Keuch isn't a good move. I personally think we just didn't want him to hit FA. If DG can make the numbers work so he doesn't impede Cam and Keuch then it'll be a good move. If not I think we still need to trade him.

Him playing on a 1-year deal isn't the end of the world either. IMO he's not going to top what he did this year. It gives us time to evaluate replacements in a year where we don't have to worry about other big name players.

I think Smith is done here tho if he doesn't take a massive paycut. He will end up being traded to another contender..most likely the Pats IMO. He'd fetch a 3rd or 4th round pick and we'd have more cap room as well. Hope he takes the cut but if not I don't see him as a Panther.

DGs eyes are on sustaining success this year and building a championship team in the following years...specifically the years where we have Keuch and Cam signed long-term and don't have massive cap restraints in the form of Stewart and Deangelo (who I wish we could just cut).

#34 El Chingon

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 02:29 PM

good stuff.



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 02:32 PM

Not me, I don't want to seem like I'm bashing gettleman at all so I apologise if I come across like that, my only frustration is the lack of offensive talent we have both on the line and weapons, i just hope he addresses this in this years draft, he has done a great job thus far I can't knock him on that, I guess when you look at the bigger picture he had a hell of a task, I'm just an impatient fan.


Don't apologize. The whole point of this boar is for people to talk about the Panthers and share their opinions. They're not always gonna be the same and people won't always agree blindly with the direction the team is headed for better or worse.

#36 Gin and Juice

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 03:06 PM

Hardy's cap number isn't gonna drastically come down. He wants 12-15 mil a year. Making his most expensive years in the years where we are trying to lock up Keuch isn't a good move. I personally think we just didn't want him to hit FA. If DG can make the numbers work so he doesn't impede Cam and Keuch then it'll be a good move. If not I think we still need to trade him.

Him playing on a 1-year deal isn't the end of the world either. IMO he's not going to top what he did this year. It gives us time to evaluate replacements in a year where we don't have to worry about other big name players.

I think Smith is done here tho if he doesn't take a massive paycut. He will end up being traded to another contender..most likely the Pats IMO. He'd fetch a 3rd or 4th round pick and we'd have more cap room as well. Hope he takes the cut but if not I don't see him as a Panther.

DGs eyes are on sustaining success this year and building a championship team in the following years...specifically the years where we have Keuch and Cam signed long-term and don't have massive cap restraints in the form of Stewart and Deangelo (who I wish we could just cut).



On the Hardy deal, a lot of what he will decide on for signing can be altered by the guaranteed part. He would sign the highest guaranteed deal even if it only pays 750k for 2 years

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 03:11 PM

Don't apologize. The whole point of this boar is for people to talk about the Panthers and share their opinions. They're not always gonna be the same and people won't always agree blindly with the direction the team is headed for better or worse.


I know just don't want to come across as a whiner! I'm very passionate about the panthers sometimes gets the better of me.

#38 TheRed

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 03:15 PM

Rework Steve Smith's deal, and keep it moving.



#39 El Chingon

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 03:57 PM

Gettleman made the right decision.



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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:04 PM

Y'all have much more faith in the fat fuger than I do.

#41 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:06 PM

Y'all have much more faith in the fat fuger than I do.


This response says a lot.

#42 AceBoogie

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:14 PM

This response says a lot.


I'm not a gettleman fan, and as you know I don't give a fug who thinks otherwise. I remember everyone was excited when we resigned Stewart. Now it's the same situation at DE. He's put a lot of picks and money into that dline, I hope they can stay on the field and block for Cam.

Not to mention the Steve Smith situation. Don't forget he's the only WR that even played last year under contract. So you want to send Cam into 2014 with a make shift oline and 0 weapons, fantastic. He's got some work to do and blaming hurney needs to stop because he's digging his own ditch right now.

#43 beastson

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:25 PM

Hardy is staying and 89 need to learn that hes not young anymore.

Also, Gman could go DBs heavy in the draft.

 

I give you pie, except I'm not sure on Hardy. But we'll see



#44 catnip

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 08:52 PM

Gettleman used the only option he had with Hardy. He bought some time and now its up to Hardy to see if he stays on a long term deal, is traded to another team, or just walks like Peppers. You can't get too close to one player if your Gettleman. Its a team game and he has to put the interest of the team first. He will make the best decision for the team and not for Hardy or Smitty. Smitty is the best WR we ever had and I would hate to see him leave, but again whatever is best for the team. I hated to see Delhome leave but it was best at the time.

#45 Gabeking

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:00 PM

Y'all have much more faith in the fat fuger than I do.


Cuz you're a dumbass


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