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#16 Swaggasaurus

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:07 PM

Gilbert, Verrett, or Fuller would be acceptable. My hope is that Z. Martin or Cooks falls

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:17 PM

BPA

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:21 PM

I'd be 100% happy with that. Fuller should somewhere around our pick. If a run on WR is made, then no sense reaching for one.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:25 PM

I don't want Varrett, too short. I'm fine with the rest.

I want a guy who can play both press and off, man and zone.

My preference is obviously offense, but if one of these guys in the BPA then I'm fine with it.


You dont want Verrett bc hes too short. But, you want a guy who can play both man and zone: exactly what Jason Verrett is. SMH

#20 The Huddler

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:46 PM

If we go CB, that player is going to play tough and be good at press.

I could make an argument that Rivera has a good defense where ever he goes, not because he has a lot of talent, but because we get players that do something really well that plays into the overall scheme. Like press man.


A CB might be skilled, but he wont be a panther if he is a finese guy.

#21 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:47 PM

You dont want Verrett bc hes too short. But, you want a guy who can play both man and zone: exactly what Jason Verrett is. SMH


Yes, height and skill set are two different things.

Seems simple enough.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 03:36 PM

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Fuller just finds a way to disrupt possessions even when beat.



#23 nagai

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 03:47 PM

I think Dennard, Gilbert, and Roby will all be gone by 28. I wouldn't mind any of the other guys listed, I just think there's better value elsewhere.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 04:15 PM

Let's assume for a minute that the value at OT and WR aren't, there in the first. In that scenario the next most likely position should be CB. Assuming that is the case, who would you want?

I really like Fuller. He fits our scheme perfectly, is big and talented and is likely to be available around our pick.

What say you?

that is a lot of assuming, and still not BPA.

That being said, I trust in Gettleman.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 05:18 PM

I am not fully buying the BPA approach (or I do not know what that means to the Panthers), but I can say that a lot depends on how much the Panthers actually believe the talk about the the young WRs or the "Bell to LT" project.

 

I do not expect a T to worth the 28th pick to be there at 28, and I think there are going to be WRs 28-75 that are all about equal.  So.......

 

There are positions that could attract Gettlemen that are both BPA (?) AND needs--but you have to remember one thing--the needs are not necessarily for 2014.  Gettlemen is looking longer term.  Most rookies go through adjustments and some hit the wall.  If you are drafting for 2014, you are probably making a mistake in some cases

 

About CB, we could take a player like Fuller, but I doubt it.  CBs are not "QBs, TD scorers, hog miollies, pass rushers" (the players Gettlemen said he likes).  I think CB in this defense is not prioritized.  I think he wants to be strong up the middle DT, MLB and S.  I think he wants the pass rushers. 

 

If not a WR or OT, I think it could be a S or a DE.  I think we know we will be without CJ or Hardy in 2015. 

 

Good thread.  Makes us think outside the box.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 05:28 PM

that is a lot of assuming, and still not BPA.

That being said, I trust in Gettleman.

I had to post those assumptions or the thread would (and still did) become about drafting wr and ot (which i want). Just trying to see what cbs people like around 28

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 05:50 PM

I want a sandwich. Preferably in the first but I'd be ok with one in the second. Mustard. Hold the mayo.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 06:03 PM

Deja Vu, all over again



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:11 PM

Yes, height and skill set are two different things.

Seems simple enough.

 

But Verrett doesn't play short.  He has great leaping ability and does an outstanding job of utilizing and controlling position to beat the receiver.  The thing is, he's got the speed, quickness, and vertical to be a matchup problem for any receiver...even the tall ones.  The only play I could see him having a tough time defending is the endzone jump ball, but even there, I expect that he will generally do a good job of denying position and keeping the receiver from being where the QB wants him. 

 

With that said, I find it hard to imagine any scenario in which CB is the clear BPA for us at #28.  I'm sure there will be a WR or OT the team has rated close enough to warrant taking with that pick.  So, ultimately this will be a moot point in reality, but an interesting discussion as a change of pace.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:16 PM

I don't think our system calls for 1st round CBs.




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