CAM NEWTON IS THE ONLY PLAYER WHO HAS TO PLAY PERFECT 100% OF THE TIME TO MANY FOOLS IN THIS FANBASE AND IN THE MEDIA or else that means he sucks.
It's all or nothing when it comes to Cam Newton.
That is what I'm talking about.
You are the only one here making it all or nothing, black and white. The rest of us live here in the grey area.
I said Cam overthrows his receivers. He does this A LOT. his completion percentage isn't great and his TD:INT ration isn't great. His QB rating has floated in the 80's for his career.
These are all facts.
You keep spouting some BS about how Cam has to be 100% for fans to like him or whatever point it is you're trying to make.
I love Cam and hope he gets a ten year contract here. If he left the team I'd be pissed. I flew to Arizona to see his first NFL start against the Cardinals because I was so pumped about his potential.
So you need to keep your thoughts to yourself if you have no idea what you are talking about. Me mentioning Cam's obvious flaws that have been around regardless of his WR's or offensive linemen has zero to do about whether or not I like him.
People need to stop getting so damn defensive when Cam is mentioned.
Yes, Cam has to be perfect 100% of the time. No one else does. It's fine when Cotchery drops at TD pass in the endzone that would've won the Cincinnati game. WHO EVER NEEDS TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN? Thanks for letting the world know, dumb@ss.
The fact you so strongly disagree with me only assures me of the accuracy of what I said.
I like how everyone with zero responsibility and accountability to the situation acts like they would resign him if they were in Gettleman's shoes. Mainly because they either haven't thought it through or aren't capable.
Let's say they sign Greg Hardy to big money and a month later he gets a dui or worse, which is more than possible at this point given his inability to surround himself with the right people or make the right choices, what then?
Oh, that's right, everyone here would blast gettleman for resigning him when there were huge red flags that should have been seen.
It's easy to make choices when it's not your job or checkbook on the line. I don't blame the Panthers one bit for not believing Greg's issues are behind him. They clearly aren't.
Since this seems to be directed at yours truly, I'll bite.
I fully realize all the horrible things that can come with a Greg Hardy signing. I realize there are a lot of flags and the guy has problems. I realize there is less than a 1% chance he's brought back to this team. I still like the guy and think he's immensely talented.
I am fully aware of why the team doesn't want him back from a PR standpoint. I also know that I wouldn't refer Greg Hardy into a position with my company because I don't know if I'd want to be associated with him in a professional environment, so I understand why a GM wouldn't touch him. I know he burned the team for $13MM this season. So again, trust me when I say I fully understand the teams stance if they decide not to retain him and I don't blame them or have ill will toward them. I also wouldn't blame Gettleman if he was resigned and something went bad.
That being said, I am a fan and that's why I can take a stance without an investment financially in the outcome if it goes sideways. Fans are allowed to have emotional biases that don't make sense.
It's like firing RR before Black Monday would be stupid, but fans want it. It's like how fans think it's Shula's fault that Cam throws a 40 yard bomb on 3rd and 2. Or how everyone on this board wants to pickup former first round picks because they vaguely recognize there name (i.e. Matt Kalil, Blue Cheese Purifoy, Cordarrelle Patterson). These things don't make sense but when it's not your money you view things differently.
Greg Hardy is my vice when it comes to the Panthers.
"disney's doug was better than the nickelodeon version. yeah i said it"
Before "The Friend Zone" was a thing, me and my buddies used to joke that you got "Doug Funnied". It was basically like the friend zone because you knew Patty Mayonaise was never gonna give him any ass.
Like I said in another thread, for me it has been extremely difficult to separate Gettleman's failure with Ron Rivera's failure this year? After all, it's not like G-man put his coach (or his franchise QB) in the best position to win. As far as I'm concerned, the Gettleman-fan honeymoon is over.
Say what you want about money---blah blah blah---but G-man's work since the end of last season has been at best a gamble, and at worst just very perplexing. I suppose it's easy to be a Monday morning QB, but the problem is that a few key things that 95 percent of NFL types said would be a problem for us come this season actually were (are) big problems.
Personally, I am not saying that either Gettleman or RIvera should be fired due to the circumstances, but if either one or both are fired I am not going to cry about it. Ironically they both took a while to land their respective positions, so there is that parallel. Perhaps it's just part of the process of getting out from under Hurney magic. If that was the case, I just wish that someone had been honest and defined this as a year of rebuilding. But, I digress. G-man: up or down?
If you came out after a 12-4 year as a second seed in the NFC and claimed this year as a rebuilding year, the fanbase would have rioted and burned down b of a.
You aren't going to simply absolve Gettleman of responsibility here are you?
Our entire staff right now is responsible for putting a plate with nothing more than a steaming pile of sh*t in front of fans week in and week out while expecting them to gladly give thanks simply because we have a team. Gettleman is the general manager, yes, he receives blame too.
Gettleman absolutely deserves some blame. I've said it a million times. He gambled last year with some of the pickups he made and it worked, so he deserved some praise. He gambled this year and it didn't work so he deserves blame. I accept that fully.
But people that think every little thing that goes wrong in a game is his fault are not only wrong, they are retarded and should be banned from breeding.
Our team sucks because we have inept coaching and our players are not talented. Now some of that is on the GM of course but we've all known for years the roster problems Gettleman inherited and that it'd take several years to get out from underneath those problems.
No. But why do this now? Why sign some nobody DT from the PS? Why not go after that rookie corner that was cut a few days ago? Or that Patriots safety that was cut? Or any one of the OTs out there that will certainly be better than Amini and be able to compete with Remmers to see who's better?
We went after Stephen Hill and it was a mistake. He is garbage, and mentally inept to boot.
Going after dropped players because you've heard of their name before doesn't always work out.