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Frash Brastard

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"KB and Smith together would've been PHENOMENALLLLLLL!"

28 September 2014 - 10:52 PM

Nope lol


I don't want to crash this little Gettleman effigy burning garden party that this board has been romping in for the last 8 hours but in the midst of it all I don't think any of you people have noticed Smitty is cannibalizing production in Baltimore, just like he was doing here. Torrey Smith, effectively Baltimore's no.2 WR this year had been trending up every year since he started playing, and last year he eclipsed 1100 yards. This year, he's not on pace for that. Or 1000. Hell, he's not even on pace for 700 yards. Through four games, he has 8 receptions for 138 yards. This is a proven WR we're talking about here. He's on pace for 32 receptions and 552 yards. So basically he's playing the Brandon Lafell/Keary Colbert/Drew Carter/Legedu Naanee role this year. After seeing that, I decided to make some comparisons between what all receivers on the Ravens did last year and what they're on pace to produce this year. We can call this The Before Smith Sr./After Smith Sr. WR Transformation:


Torrey Smith


2013: 65 Rec, 1178 yards, 4 TDs

2014: 32 Rec, 552 yards, 4 TDs


Assessment: he's not getting a lot of looks. Also having Smith on the other side of the field isn't opening up everything for him like people want to believe. Not once have I seen him streaking wide open on the side line with no coverage on him while half the defense is trying to cover Smitty. I'm sure that would've been a highlight on ESPN.


Jacoby Jones


2013: 37 Rec, 455 Yards, 2 TDs

2014: 12 Rec, 80 Yards, 0 TDs


Assessment: Jones has been consistently producing around the 400/500 yard receiving mark for most of his career, and his best performance was in 2010 with 51 for 562 yards and 3 TDs. He even had 6 touchdown receptions the year before, so we know he's capable of doing better.


Marlon Brown


2013: 49 Rec, 524 Yards, 7 TDs

2014: 16 Rec, 184 yards, 0 TDs


Assessment: Nice rookie campaign for an undrafted receiver. Although his career is probably going to be derailed and never develop further while Smith is vulturing all the targets.


Those are the only receivers continuously playing for Baltimore. All this production lost while Steve Smith has a career revival of 100 receptions, 1,716 yards and 12 touchdowns. We've seen this formula before. We've tried to win with it for years and years, and endured 2-14 seasons, Jake Delhomme meltdowns, nobody getting open in close games, etc. It didn't work for us so why go on with it? Talented as KB is I don't think he can yell louder than Smith and intimidate the entire offense into forcing plays to him. He wouldn't come close to 21/329/3.


Basically what I'm telling you is call for Gettleman's head and keep criticizing him if you'd rather us draft Kelvin in the first round so he can fail and so you can keep talking about how we need a complement to Smith by the time he's 37 years old, just like you guys did last year when nobody else could be a consistent WR.


Smith's played with like a million WRs since he's come to the league and not one of them got to 1,000 yards playing with him. He's never going to have a WR able to compete with the QB's attention for comparable passing production. Maybe Torrey's stats won't look as pathetic toward the end of the season, but seeing as how this is more of the same phenomenon we know all too well in Carolina taking place in Baltimore, I think this trend is going to continue, and I highly doubt any of the other WRs come close to 1000 yards.

Hardy is innocent

19 September 2014 - 01:01 PM

I swear I was only fuxing around on this thing, decided to pop his name in for no reason and this is what happened. It's a sign.

Statement by AP

15 September 2014 - 04:00 PM

AP attests that as long as you didn't mean to cause lacerations and whatnot, it's unfair to be called a child abuser, along with more of the fallacious "whipping my ass as a child made me the man I am today" drivel I saw rear its head plenty of times last week on this board when the story came out


Today you witnessed the end as well as the beginning

14 September 2014 - 09:55 PM

The last time I visited Warwick Winery in upstate NY was in November 2010. That Sunday, the Panthers started Brian St. Pierre to play against the Baltimore Ravens, who had been consistent contenders going back before then.


For reference:




In that game, the Panthers had nothing on their roster that looked like a starting QB; the roster was so thin Mike Goodson had a career day with over 150 all purpose yards and no touchdowns. Steve Smith turned in a performance like we'd seen so much of in 2013. Greg Hardy was a rookie and still developing at that point. He was able to generate a sack against the statuesque Joe Flacco.


Today I went back as a post birthday pilgrimage with a bunch of friends. The Panthers are a completely different team now. John Fox is gone, Marty Hurney is gone, all of our marginal UDFA starting QBs are gone and since 2013, the window is open, and the air has taken the stench of failure of the past out, and the aroma of freshly washed success and nipple shorts is being blown right in past the clothesline.


Checking my droid eris was miserable that day, all the news was bad and I don't know why I still gave enough of a poo to even mind the Panthers that far into what ended up being a 2-14 season. Even today, checking the gameday thread on my 5s was littered with the same comments by ten different people after every play, the sentiment seesawing from one pole to the other.


KB one handed grab:




"Whadda play by Benjamin"






next play: a -3 yard run or something:




"we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose i know it"




Annoying: The fact that I waited in line for a baked potato burger for over an hour, and when I finally got to the front to place an order, watching one of the short order cooks come up to the chalkboard and erase EVERYTHING and announce that they were out of burgers.

More Annoying: Listening to some old white guy behind me complain about them running out of hamburgers for 30 minutes.


Most Annoying: All of this plus reading the gameday thread at the same time on a shoddy 3G connection that I kept losing.


Guys, commenting in gameday threads seem to bring out the worst in posters. In fact, I often find myself watching the mental breakdown of posters I consider to be among the most level-headed on this message board. I get that emotions run high, these games matter more than games in any other sport. But the bi-polar state of this message board was on full display today, and I was disappointed, because I thought that people would have realized by now that we are beyond that. This isn't the same ol' panthers you're watching anymore. This is a new team, directed by new people, led by one of the most dynamic players on one side of the ball, and the best front seven in the league on the other side.


Is it the pits being a Panther fan when Stewart gets a handoff and immediately gets plastered by the entire detroit lions defense?


Does KB dropping a pass bring your blood to a raging boil?


Does it make you wonder if there are a bunch of people with downs calling the plays and the coaches are just out there for show when we have one of our signature 3 and outs?


Ok maybe it does, but:


Did you remember how many times you flipped out when the Panthers made a bad play and thought it was petty and silly after you saw them win by over 2 scores?


Did you know that KB is still on pace for over 1000 yards receiving this year and more yards than Calvin Johnson had his rookie season?


Did you hear about how the Chargers knocked out Cthulhu and dropped a 30 burger on the Seahawks? Is their run starting to wane?


Is RGIII even going to play another down in the NFL? After all the Redskins gave up investing in him?


There's going to be a lot of bad plays that the opponent is going to win. But there are a lot of teams that had worse days today than we did. We learned that a few bad plays don't lose games, losing Greg Hardy isn't the end of the world, and the Panthers passed a major test against the Lions. The Lions may not end up being anything special, they probably will look good the rest of the first half of the season, and collapse in the second half like last year, but holding their offense to 7 points is a big deal. The last time a team held the Lions to 7 points or less was in week 7 of 2012 against the Bears. How many analysts predicted that? How many analysts predicted us to beat a horrible Buccaneers team with no answers at many positions last week? Better questions. How many of you predicted us, or at least had confidence to start 2-0 considering the context of our opponents. I'm probably the most obvious person to say that you should call a bad team a bad team, but I have confidence in the Panthers right now, and I always did starting this season. Have they not earned the right for a little bit of your trust?


The Panthers have changed but our fans still have the same old attitude they did in 2010. How do you want to remember how you enjoyed the season if this is the year the Panthers usurp the Seahawks and 49ers and emerge as the new premier class of the league and go all the way?


like this?




or this?


Star and Short vs Suh and Fairley in a tornado tag cage match...

11 September 2014 - 04:22 PM

With Jeff Fisher as the special guest referee! (You know he'll let a few things slide in there!)

Will it be the team of "Death" Star Lotulelei and the high flying Kawann Short with his devastating turf toe submission hold, or Nick "Flair" Fairley and Ndamukong "Donkey Kong" Suh with his insane finisher, "Unsportsmanlike Conduct"*


TL;DR this is actually a thread to compare which DT tandem you think is better

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