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#2945814 Kelvin Benjamin: Rookie of the Week

Posted by jdpanther5 on 12 September 2014 - 02:31 PM

Jones reported it as well...but

On NFL.com


I'm guessing this is an official weekly honor and not a fan vote.

#2935622 Johnson restructures?

Posted by jdpanther5 on 07 September 2014 - 10:23 PM

Actually Cam's contract is through the 2015 season. He will be making around 14 million next season.

With the 5th year option, yeah. I'm honestly not sure if an extension would take the place of the option year or just be tacked onto the end of it.

#2924297 Nfl rule expire?

Posted by jdpanther5 on 04 September 2014 - 09:05 AM

So if a player has incentives in his contract, do you have to assume he'll hit all of them when it comes to figuring your cap hit for that player?

Example: say SF gives Kaeperdick a $12MM base salary, with another $1MM if he makes pro bowl, $4MM for Super Bowl win and another $3MM if he is named league MVP. Now any sane person knows that those things will never happen in a year, but does SF have to count him as a $12MM hit or a $20MM hit when they are figuring out cap numbers?

Because they wouldn't really know those figures until the season is over?

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An arbitrator determines whether individual bonuses are "likely" or "not likely" to be earned. Only what is considered as likely is included in the year's cap, so in your Kaepernick example none of it would be considered likely so the cap hit would be $12m.

However, let's assume you said Peyton instead of Kaep: Manning would also count for another $1m since the Pro Bowl would be "likely" for him, but not Kaep. So the same contract can have a separate hit, depending on the player.

Now, should a player achieve a goal that was considered "unlikely," it gets added to the following year's cap. So if Manning wins the Super Bowl, the $4m bonus you described hits the cap in 2015.

#2919875 If you don't use the Huddle App then.... WELP

Posted by jdpanther5 on 01 September 2014 - 03:46 PM

App is easier to use, but that's kinda moot with embedded tweets not being viewable.

#2881916 The Huddle Gameday Live - Buffalo Bills Edition

Posted by jdpanther5 on 08 August 2014 - 06:04 PM

Says: "I'm not wasting effort talking about a preseason game."

.... does so after taking the time to log in on opposing teams' forum and talk trash.

Section 551 for me. Giant screen behind me has a spot blacked out in the dead center.

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#2817570 Jon Beason carted off field during non contact exercise.

Posted by jdpanther5 on 12 June 2014 - 12:42 PM

Those of you citing cap savings... realize we only saved $1m. He reduced his base to $1m - possibly to help facilitate a trade, which is my theory - and that's all that went to New York. The $13m + in bonuses stay here as dead money.

I know some say he never would've started again, but you need backups too and at a $1m difference between keeping and trading him I'd say he'd be worth it as quality depth, just in case.

Of course this is moot now as he would've walked as a FA had he not been traded, but the cap space theory doesn't hold a ton of weight IMO.

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#2812550 You can now Embed Tweets.....

Posted by jdpanther5 on 07 June 2014 - 07:24 AM

Like another forum I frequent, looks like the tweets don't appear on mobile. Any remedy to that?

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#2803867 Huddle question:June cuts are days away...what will happen

Posted by jdpanther5 on 29 May 2014 - 10:14 PM

How the fug do June 1 cuts work?

Steve Smith was designated a June 1 right?

Instead of taking the cap hit of all guaranteed and already paid bonuses the moment the player is cut, June 1 cuts spread the hit over two years. Not evenly though, only the guaranteed and bonus cap hits for the current year hit the current year's cap, and then the total for all remaining years hit the cap in the following year. For instance, let's look at DeAngelo:

If cut today (as a normal cut) his cap hit would be $9.6m. This doesn't help though, since keeping him only costs $6m. However, as a June 1 cut only 1 year of signing bonus ($3.2m) and 1 year of his restructure bonus ($800k) hit this year's cap. A savings of $2m vs. keeping him.

However, the remaining $5.6m hits the following year, which is still a savings of about $750k vs. keeping him. Worth noting he's due another $1m option bonus next offseason (Steve was due a $3m bonus before he was cut).

Speaking of Steve, he was set to count $7m against our cap this year: $4m base, $2m signing bonus, $1m of $3m bonus he was due (spread out over 3 years). We cut him before the bonus was due, so he never saw that, and then spread the cap hit instead of taking the $9m dead money hit.

$3m of his $4m base was guaranteed, so that plus his signing bonus ($2m) for a total cap hit of $5m. So we saved $2m this year, however, $1m came off the day we cut him (the bonus that never hit), so come June 2 we'll only have an extra $1m in cap space.

The main thing with Steve was the future cap hits. His hits would've been $9m and $11m over the last two years, but after the cut the hits are only $4m and $0.

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#2793183 Panthers wave Travis Bond and sign the Big Maple Leaf

Posted by jdpanther5 on 19 May 2014 - 02:32 PM

Could be another one of the tryout players.

I actually came back to post that I may have found it.

LB Billy Boyko just signed a two year deal with the Carolina Panthers...this guy just never stopped working hard after the Raiders Cut him!!

That's Todd Williams, per his website he's Boyko's agent. Boyko was indeed one of our tryouts.

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#2791312 Time to Unite: '15 Cover Vote

Posted by jdpanther5 on 17 May 2014 - 03:16 PM

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#2790209 Rookie Camp Saturday

Posted by jdpanther5 on 16 May 2014 - 04:42 PM

As good a place as any: Five undrafted rookies with an opportunity to make an impact

"Marcus Lucas, WR Panthers

During free agency, the Panthers lost three of their top four receivers. The organization then released the team’s all-time leading receiver, Steve Smith, who quickly signed with the Baltimore Ravens.

The team acquired three rookie receivers to fill the void. The Panthers selected Florida State’s Kelvin Benjamin in the first round of the draft. Lucas and Ohio State’s Corey Brown were signed after the draft.

Lucas will also compete with the likes of Jason Avant, Kealoha Pilares, Tiquan Underwood, Tavarres King, Marvin McNutt and Jerricho Cotchery to potentially start opposite Benjamin.

At 6-4 and 218 pounds, Lucas is bigger than the rest of those receivers. He could form an intimidating duo opposite the 6-5, 240-pound Benjamin. Lucas was Missouri’s best receiver in stretches last season. If he can become more consistent he has the potential to develop into a starter."


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#2789104 Rookie Twitter names

Posted by jdpanther5 on 15 May 2014 - 08:03 PM

Off to Charlotte time to put in work!!!!

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#2788706 2015 Madden Cover Vote

Posted by jdpanther5 on 15 May 2014 - 03:43 PM

They're discussing the second round matchups on NFL Live now with analysts picking sides. 


Cam vs. Charles: Darren Woodson said Cam was a rising MVP candidate and "will soon be a Super Bowl winning QB." Some other guy agreed and called him the future. Good stuff.


By the way, Luke vs. Kaep in round 2. Huddle...



#2782255 Updated: Mayocks Top 5 at Each Position

Posted by jdpanther5 on 12 May 2014 - 11:06 AM

This was cool to look back at in hindsight.

1. Benjamin: #5 WR
2. Ealy: #4 DE
3. Turner: #2 OG

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#2778603 6th Round - Carolina selects RB Tyler Gaffney, Stanford

Posted by jdpanther5 on 10 May 2014 - 04:29 PM

And then also gives us a cap hit from him next year. All the June 1st cut does is divide the cap hit between 2014 and 2015 correct?

So this year his cap hit is $6 mil, and cutting him as a June 1st hits us with $4.8mil of dead money, which translates to a $1.2 million in "savings". But next year we would be hit with that extra $4.8 million, which would be pretty ridiculous to have him counting against the cap for 2 seasons where he isn't even on our roster.

That's... not how it works. We'd still take the guaranteed hit from this season, which is $4m and thus a savings of $2m. Then the rest of the guaranteed money hits next year, totaling about $5.6m. That only saves about $750k but would also negate another million he's due next offseason.

Frankly, from a cap standpoint it makes more sense to cut him than it did Smith.

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