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#2841466 Josh Gordon arrested again.....

Posted by hdevonxz on 07 July 2014 - 02:47 AM

Some of these replies act like we're not employing a guy who allegedly beat his girlfriend, threaten her life, and threw her on top of a pile of machine guns...... lol

 

 

 

then again this is america, beat your woman all you want, but you better not lite up that jay.




#2805557 Don't Blow All Your Cash At Once Rookie

Posted by hdevonxz on 31 May 2014 - 07:00 PM

Material possessions get a lot of them in trouble, people buy things they don't need, to impress people they don't even know. 




#2793454 Bell Can Succeed at Left Tackle

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 06:07 PM

He repeatedly said the value was no longer there after the first 3-4 tackles went off the board. You don't draft a LT for the future with a 2nd round pick that you don't think they're worth.

 

true, you get those from undrafted DL men and then convert them to LT. lmao




#2793279 Bell Can Succeed at Left Tackle

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 03:28 PM

I think the problem with this is as fans our view points are already skewed, show me where a tackle has struggled mightily on the right side and then was changed to the left where he went on to become "great" in the NFL lol

 

It's like people are forgetting the generalizations of LE's being the premiere pass rusher on teams, and RE's being more so run stuffers and 2nd best.




#2793239 Greg Hardy reportedly returns to Panthers' workouts

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 03:05 PM

Hope he brought those 30 assault weapons to practice with, opposing QB's really won't stand a chance this season. 




#2793189 OLine, Cam holding the ball too long, or bad play calling?

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 02:36 PM

Here's an interesting stat, Steve Smith caught 62% of passes thrown his way, and racked up 15 missed tackles after the catch.  those 15 missed tackles have him ranked as top 5 in that category.   Yet he only gained 2.9 Y/after catch per reception, which definitely are his worse of all time.  Definitely could no longer beat double teams, or create significant separation, yet when he got ball in space was still able to make moves.  Smith was meant for the slot a long time ago, and it's a damn shame we never capitalized on this years ago. 

 

Lafell caught 59% and Ginn 58%, respectively.  LaFell lead all of our receivers with 8 drops.  Smith 5.




#2792990 OLine, Cam holding the ball too long, or bad play calling?

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 12:40 PM

I wanted to start a discussion some statistics I've been looking at concerning last year's offensive line and Cam, as well as the questionable play calling we did, basically to gain others personal interpretations of the stats and why they were the way they were and what do you guys think we will do to change it this year.

 

Cam was hit/sacked/hurried more than any other QB in the league last year.  At times I thought he was being just plain in decisive, his lack of throwing the ball away, and lack of getting it out of his hands on time made me wonder if our QB coach is working with him as well as he should, and if our OC is picking the appropriate plays for our personnel and situations.  The 49ers game still leaving a bad taste in my mouth, as welll as several other instances in which Cam doesn't progress through his reads fast enough or has to end up running for his life as a result of the play breaking down or line breaking down.  A few key stats I found interesting:

 

Cam dropped back 555 times

He was hit as he threw 9 times. Tying for the league lead with Tom Brady and Joe Flaco, Brady and Flacco both however took over a 120 more drop backs than Cam.

He was sacked a total of 44 times (5th over all in league)

Our WR's dropped a total of 23 passes (21st over all in league) Relatively good given who we had catching, I wonder how well new WR crop will do. Avant has sure hands, as well as veterans.  KB, however, is speculative.

Cam threw away the ball on 18 drop backs. (12th overall in league)

Cam's average yards per attempt 7.1 ( 17th overall in league)

 

Our current penciled in LT is Byron Bell

Last year he was graded responsible for 9 sacks, 6 QB hits, and 31 QB hurries

All 3 statistics are the top 5 WORSE in the NFL among starters. 

 

Gross gave up 1 QB hit, and 21 QB hurries, finishing a grade of top 5 among tackles.   This is scary.

 

 

 

I think what concerns me the most is how dependent our offense is on Cam being agile, durable, and able to take many hits.  I think our main focus should be on limiting Cam's hits, hurries, and sacks, as they will begin to add up and take their tole.  As well as anyone coming off of a surgery on their legs and limbs, they will need time to adjust and re acclimate their selves to the field.  As shady as teams are about injuries these days who knows what the surgery might really have been a result of, maybe he wouldn't have needed it had he not been in duress so many times on so many pass attempts.  I really hope our O line improves because we simply can't repeat our same success if it doesn't. I also hope a break out receiver some how emerges, a home run hitter, a person who can take it to the house when the ball is in their hand at any given moment, that potential is a game changer, and we haven't seen it since 2011/2012 Smith...even then he was much slowed down.

 




#2783418 Yahoo Sports has our O-line (positon group) as the "most muddled" pos...

Posted by hdevonxz on 12 May 2014 - 11:46 PM

All of this angst about the line is really overblown IMO.  Last year we were decimated with injuries at the guard position and in the end the line did decently.  The only guy we are replacing is Gross and that takes 1 guy to show up whether he is on the team already or we intend to pick him up when cuts are made.  Truth is we should actually be better at both guard positions and even if Bell is back at right tackle he wasn't exactly the disaster people make him out to be.  He wasn't good but he wasn't awful.

We will pick up at least 1 more LT and we have a bunch of guys who will be competing for the job.  Seems to me that our line will be as good or better at 4 positions and as for LT, I suspect Gettleman has a plan.  As much as he values hog mollies I just don't see him ignoring the LT position.  It is only May so there is still plenty of time to pick someone up. 

 

Gross and Wharton played outstanding, and graded out in the top 5 (profootball focus) at their respective positions, the left side of the line is the most important, so we basically had 3 pro bowl calibur people going from Center to LG to LT, the right side was decimated with injuries but with such a good left side that was easily compensated.  All that being said Cam still was sacked, hit, hurried, or rushed more than any other QB in the league.  So now we lose 2 of those top 5 position players and essentially replace them with Bell....who's has struggled on the right side already, and more question marks, etc. 




#2782422 We didn't do Cam any favors, and if this is it we're gonna have some...

Posted by hdevonxz on 12 May 2014 - 12:44 PM

Looks as though this hit a soft spot with a few of our fellow Huddlers.

Sure we needed a WR. Maybe. We have 4 that Gman brought in. We very well could have taken someone other than KB. But...he was the best player for Gman and the Panthers.

You never answered my question though. Who was BPA at 28? In your opinion, was there anyone better?

And we weren't taking a QB because not one in this draft was worth taking. Maybe 3-4 Tackles worth taking, and they were all gone. Dline? None at our pick worth taking either. CB, S, LB? Nope.

We took who we thought was the best of the rest. A beast of a kid.

 

 

To me the BPA at 28 was Teddy Bridgewater.  

 

And we definitely needed a WR, there's no maybe about it.  You're kinda contradicting yourself by saying we didn't really need one....and then going on to say he was the BEST player for the Panthers...

 

And that whole nonsense about their not being one worth taking is just that, nonsense to me.  When you get into the later rounds the players you pick are picked because of their potential, you pick them with the hope that they'll work out.  Maybe they have character issues that caused them to fall, maybe they weren't tall enough or fast enough at the combine, that is already understood.  That doesn't mean you just go out and say they're not worth drafting, so I'm going to keep drafting players for positions we already have filled.  Think about this, when you draft late and draft for need you're hedging your bets.  You're not putting all your eggs in one basket, you're simply spreading out your risks. Which makes complete sense to me, Gettleman doesn't determine who is " worth drafting" because simply the drarft process is a lot like the market place.  DG might pass over someone, becaus he thinks he's not worht drafting, but then when someone else thinks other wise and drafts him and that player turns into a stud....then what?    

 

You guys are being kinda ridiculous trying to justify a roster with Chandler and Bell at our tackles.....and no one else?  No back ups?  So when we sort through all the free agents and undraftables, they will then become magically worth it?  Just not worth drafting?   Maybe I'm not seeing something, but I think everything I have said has some reasoning to it, and some good questions.
 




#2781879 There's no way we're carrying 5 RB's on the 53

Posted by hdevonxz on 12 May 2014 - 03:44 AM

I seriously think they can match their production. Yoiu dont need two first round RBs eating your cap space

 

Can't cut them, produces dead money, that eats up cap space.....without any hope of player production.

 

 

A late round rooking runinng back is almost never immediately thrusted into starting position, and when he is he is almost never as productive as other more talented earlier picks. No one can say why he was drafted, because honestly it was dumb af considering we only have 2 tackles on our roster.  So people crack me up trying to logically reason out a move that reallly has no basis to have been made.  It was simply a dumb pick.




#2691396 Time to Vent via memes

Posted by hdevonxz on 13 March 2014 - 01:49 PM

Hahaha haha you guys are killing me, making today a bit better already!

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#2691284 Time to Vent via memes

Posted by hdevonxz on 13 March 2014 - 01:17 PM

Let's get some going , could use good laughs

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#2681809 Panthers attempting to trade Steve Smith.

Posted by hdevonxz on 10 March 2014 - 04:59 PM

lmao everyone saying "this is a business" don't know the slightest thing about real business. anyone can do the math and see its expensive to keep smitty, but not many can add the total economic impact of the move. not to mention the move is only valuable depending on what happens afterwards. it's not a good move until we get a reviver to replace smitty that contributes more than smitty can... maybe someone can match those 800 yards, but the leadership , emotional intensity. ....fuging priceless. any real fan recognizes that.


#2676008 Still loving Gettleman?

Posted by hdevonxz on 05 March 2014 - 04:54 PM

I pull for the team, not the players. With luck, the team will still be here in 20 years, none of the current players will. I was there in the beginning, the VERY beginning and I wish this franchise had been run from day 1 like a business rather than the charity it has been for 15 plus years.
A multimillionaire has already been given what he is owed. The NFL is based upon current physical prowess and projected performance, not past accolades and nostalgic memories.

That is what tribute videos are for.

I love Smitty but if Jerry Rice can be shown the door if he didn't want to cooperate, so can Mighty Mouse. The 2014/15 SB Champ will not look back and say, "Thank goodness we listened to our heart rather than doing what is best for the team".

I would be a fan if Steve Smith would have been drafted and played his entire career with the Falcons. Steve Smith does not define the Panthers and Steve Smith does not make me a fan. He is a part of our lore and I will cherish every game but time marches on.



saying you root for the team and not the players is like saying you like rectangles, but not the sides lol.

and business was already made when Smith signed his contract it was a business decision by both the panthers and smith, now the organization wants to choose not to honor that then they will be hit with the appropriate sanctions, my point being is that PLAYERS LIKE SMITH ARE INVALUABLE to a franchise, they are the ones you remember in 20 years....not drew carter, hank baskett, etc.

Business isn't all about financial numbers, neither is nfl all about stats. The intangibles play a huge part. what does sending Steve out on a bad note show our current players?


#2673980 Still loving Gettleman?

Posted by hdevonxz on 03 March 2014 - 11:01 PM

The amount of disrespectful comments I've read on this forum about smitty is atrocious, how many of you would even be panther fans if smitty wasn't playing his ass off for us through all those down years? some you guys must of forgot how many times he bailed out not just Delhomme but us as a team. Yes this is a business, but the most important thing about a business is the customers. And the customers are us fans, and if you don't love Smith or think he should be treated like the team captain he is, then you're not a real fan. Period.

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