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#3014869 Official Panthers - Bengals Gameday Thread

Posted by hdevonxz on 12 October 2014 - 03:20 PM

Smfh if we were in a hurry up we would have had 2 more plays on this drive

#2989011 Panthers cut Poole

Posted by hdevonxz on 29 September 2014 - 05:05 PM

here comes a vet

#2985826 Smitty all but locked up a HOF vote today..

Posted by hdevonxz on 28 September 2014 - 06:31 PM

People are just dramatic in all honesty and yea they're mad obviously because all the talk about Steve Smith annoys those people so they just get more and more irrational in their hate on Smith.



Smith is honestly one of our greatest players of all time and you simply have to respect that, if you've been a panther fan for the past decade then he's greatly impacted our team in many ways.   People are hypocrites, trying to say all these bad things about the guy now that he's gone but all that speculation is just that an outsider perspective.

#2962213 PFT: NFL may suspend Hardy

Posted by hdevonxz on 18 September 2014 - 07:37 AM

Where the fug was all this rage, when MMA fighter "war machine" damn near killed and hospitalized his gf? Nobody gave a poo, not even the great and powerful N.O.W organization.


He fugged her up bad, and there's an ass load of tweets about it and some coming from the guy himself make him sound insane.  Yet this gets no coverage, I read about it on the internet. Not seen a thing on ESPN

#2841466 Josh Gordon arrested again.....

Posted by hdevonxz on 07 July 2014 - 02:47 AM

Some of these replies act like we're not employing a guy who allegedly beat his girlfriend, threaten her life, and threw her on top of a pile of machine guns...... lol




then again this is america, beat your woman all you want, but you better not lite up that jay.

#2805557 Don't Blow All Your Cash At Once Rookie

Posted by hdevonxz on 31 May 2014 - 07:00 PM

Material possessions get a lot of them in trouble, people buy things they don't need, to impress people they don't even know. 

#2793454 Bell Can Succeed at Left Tackle

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 06:07 PM

He repeatedly said the value was no longer there after the first 3-4 tackles went off the board. You don't draft a LT for the future with a 2nd round pick that you don't think they're worth.


true, you get those from undrafted DL men and then convert them to LT. lmao

#2793279 Bell Can Succeed at Left Tackle

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 03:28 PM

I think the problem with this is as fans our view points are already skewed, show me where a tackle has struggled mightily on the right side and then was changed to the left where he went on to become "great" in the NFL lol


It's like people are forgetting the generalizations of LE's being the premiere pass rusher on teams, and RE's being more so run stuffers and 2nd best.

#2793239 Greg Hardy reportedly returns to Panthers' workouts

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 03:05 PM

Hope he brought those 30 assault weapons to practice with, opposing QB's really won't stand a chance this season. 

#2793189 OLine, Cam holding the ball too long, or bad play calling?

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 02:36 PM

Here's an interesting stat, Steve Smith caught 62% of passes thrown his way, and racked up 15 missed tackles after the catch.  those 15 missed tackles have him ranked as top 5 in that category.   Yet he only gained 2.9 Y/after catch per reception, which definitely are his worse of all time.  Definitely could no longer beat double teams, or create significant separation, yet when he got ball in space was still able to make moves.  Smith was meant for the slot a long time ago, and it's a damn shame we never capitalized on this years ago. 


Lafell caught 59% and Ginn 58%, respectively.  LaFell lead all of our receivers with 8 drops.  Smith 5.

#2792990 OLine, Cam holding the ball too long, or bad play calling?

Posted by hdevonxz on 19 May 2014 - 12:40 PM

I wanted to start a discussion some statistics I've been looking at concerning last year's offensive line and Cam, as well as the questionable play calling we did, basically to gain others personal interpretations of the stats and why they were the way they were and what do you guys think we will do to change it this year.


Cam was hit/sacked/hurried more than any other QB in the league last year.  At times I thought he was being just plain in decisive, his lack of throwing the ball away, and lack of getting it out of his hands on time made me wonder if our QB coach is working with him as well as he should, and if our OC is picking the appropriate plays for our personnel and situations.  The 49ers game still leaving a bad taste in my mouth, as welll as several other instances in which Cam doesn't progress through his reads fast enough or has to end up running for his life as a result of the play breaking down or line breaking down.  A few key stats I found interesting:


Cam dropped back 555 times

He was hit as he threw 9 times. Tying for the league lead with Tom Brady and Joe Flaco, Brady and Flacco both however took over a 120 more drop backs than Cam.

He was sacked a total of 44 times (5th over all in league)

Our WR's dropped a total of 23 passes (21st over all in league) Relatively good given who we had catching, I wonder how well new WR crop will do. Avant has sure hands, as well as veterans.  KB, however, is speculative.

Cam threw away the ball on 18 drop backs. (12th overall in league)

Cam's average yards per attempt 7.1 ( 17th overall in league)


Our current penciled in LT is Byron Bell

Last year he was graded responsible for 9 sacks, 6 QB hits, and 31 QB hurries

All 3 statistics are the top 5 WORSE in the NFL among starters. 


Gross gave up 1 QB hit, and 21 QB hurries, finishing a grade of top 5 among tackles.   This is scary.




I think what concerns me the most is how dependent our offense is on Cam being agile, durable, and able to take many hits.  I think our main focus should be on limiting Cam's hits, hurries, and sacks, as they will begin to add up and take their tole.  As well as anyone coming off of a surgery on their legs and limbs, they will need time to adjust and re acclimate their selves to the field.  As shady as teams are about injuries these days who knows what the surgery might really have been a result of, maybe he wouldn't have needed it had he not been in duress so many times on so many pass attempts.  I really hope our O line improves because we simply can't repeat our same success if it doesn't. I also hope a break out receiver some how emerges, a home run hitter, a person who can take it to the house when the ball is in their hand at any given moment, that potential is a game changer, and we haven't seen it since 2011/2012 Smith...even then he was much slowed down.


#2783418 Yahoo Sports has our O-line (positon group) as the "most muddled" pos...

Posted by hdevonxz on 12 May 2014 - 11:46 PM

All of this angst about the line is really overblown IMO.  Last year we were decimated with injuries at the guard position and in the end the line did decently.  The only guy we are replacing is Gross and that takes 1 guy to show up whether he is on the team already or we intend to pick him up when cuts are made.  Truth is we should actually be better at both guard positions and even if Bell is back at right tackle he wasn't exactly the disaster people make him out to be.  He wasn't good but he wasn't awful.

We will pick up at least 1 more LT and we have a bunch of guys who will be competing for the job.  Seems to me that our line will be as good or better at 4 positions and as for LT, I suspect Gettleman has a plan.  As much as he values hog mollies I just don't see him ignoring the LT position.  It is only May so there is still plenty of time to pick someone up. 


Gross and Wharton played outstanding, and graded out in the top 5 (profootball focus) at their respective positions, the left side of the line is the most important, so we basically had 3 pro bowl calibur people going from Center to LG to LT, the right side was decimated with injuries but with such a good left side that was easily compensated.  All that being said Cam still was sacked, hit, hurried, or rushed more than any other QB in the league.  So now we lose 2 of those top 5 position players and essentially replace them with Bell....who's has struggled on the right side already, and more question marks, etc. 

#2782422 We didn't do Cam any favors, and if this is it we're gonna have some...

Posted by hdevonxz on 12 May 2014 - 12:44 PM

Looks as though this hit a soft spot with a few of our fellow Huddlers.

Sure we needed a WR. Maybe. We have 4 that Gman brought in. We very well could have taken someone other than KB. But...he was the best player for Gman and the Panthers.

You never answered my question though. Who was BPA at 28? In your opinion, was there anyone better?

And we weren't taking a QB because not one in this draft was worth taking. Maybe 3-4 Tackles worth taking, and they were all gone. Dline? None at our pick worth taking either. CB, S, LB? Nope.

We took who we thought was the best of the rest. A beast of a kid.



To me the BPA at 28 was Teddy Bridgewater.  


And we definitely needed a WR, there's no maybe about it.  You're kinda contradicting yourself by saying we didn't really need one....and then going on to say he was the BEST player for the Panthers...


And that whole nonsense about their not being one worth taking is just that, nonsense to me.  When you get into the later rounds the players you pick are picked because of their potential, you pick them with the hope that they'll work out.  Maybe they have character issues that caused them to fall, maybe they weren't tall enough or fast enough at the combine, that is already understood.  That doesn't mean you just go out and say they're not worth drafting, so I'm going to keep drafting players for positions we already have filled.  Think about this, when you draft late and draft for need you're hedging your bets.  You're not putting all your eggs in one basket, you're simply spreading out your risks. Which makes complete sense to me, Gettleman doesn't determine who is " worth drafting" because simply the drarft process is a lot like the market place.  DG might pass over someone, becaus he thinks he's not worht drafting, but then when someone else thinks other wise and drafts him and that player turns into a stud....then what?    


You guys are being kinda ridiculous trying to justify a roster with Chandler and Bell at our tackles.....and no one else?  No back ups?  So when we sort through all the free agents and undraftables, they will then become magically worth it?  Just not worth drafting?   Maybe I'm not seeing something, but I think everything I have said has some reasoning to it, and some good questions.

#2781879 There's no way we're carrying 5 RB's on the 53

Posted by hdevonxz on 12 May 2014 - 03:44 AM

I seriously think they can match their production. Yoiu dont need two first round RBs eating your cap space


Can't cut them, produces dead money, that eats up cap space.....without any hope of player production.



A late round rooking runinng back is almost never immediately thrusted into starting position, and when he is he is almost never as productive as other more talented earlier picks. No one can say why he was drafted, because honestly it was dumb af considering we only have 2 tackles on our roster.  So people crack me up trying to logically reason out a move that reallly has no basis to have been made.  It was simply a dumb pick.

#2691396 Time to Vent via memes

Posted by hdevonxz on 13 March 2014 - 01:49 PM

Hahaha haha you guys are killing me, making today a bit better already!

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