I made it very clear I was drawing a parallel between the human rights issues faced by black men in sports and those faced by gay men in sports. This guy shot holes into my analogy by pointing out all the minutia in context. Don't try to talk to that guy, he is incapable of forming a coherent argument.
If my Son's favorite player was Michael Sam and I could find his jersey at an affordable price, yes I would buy it for him. Especially if my son was Gay. Gay people deserve idols too. They deserve to see a future for themselves.
I've heard a ton of people try to compare accepting a gay athlete to accepting a criminal or drug addict. It's not fair to the Gay man to be shed in that light. It doesn't fully cover the feeling of his teammates either.
This is a big story. Jackie Robinson was a big story. Nelson Mandela was a big story. And while those aren't perfect analogies there is a clear parallel to human rights. Sports has always played a role in human rights and politics.
For it to be a non-story in the future, it has to be a story now. Nobody has to like it, but we do need to accept it.
You guys worried about Gay men looking at you in the shower need to get a clue. Your wives don't even want to look at you in the shower.
What does this have to do with the way others treat him as the poster you were responding to was talking about?
Voting in laws that restrict people from marriage and the benefits that come with it is far worse than giving someone an ugly look at the Cracker Barrel, or any "treatment". Being polite to someone then voting against their rights is hardly what I call tolerant.
Oh jesus christ. Why cant this poo just go away. First openly gay player, first black coach, soon we'll have first Asian kicker....
What year is it? We dont need 14 hours of coverage where Katie Curic breaks down what this means on a larger scale, for our future, blah blah blah. Hes gay. I work with a gay guy. I went to school with guy dudes. Im sure many people here do as well. Do you guys throw rocks at him? Do you burn crosses into his lawn? Oh.... You dont? You mean 99% of americans treat gays/blacks/ hispanics/ and everyone else exactly the same and like respectable adults? Great. Can we move on please?
Why must our entire universe revolve around what the dumb redneck hicks livin in run-down trailer parks who carry signs saying "God Hates Fags" say? Those guys are very few and far between and no one gives a fug about them. No one of any importance really cares about sexual orientation or race. Its fugging 2014.
I don't know where you got your 99% figure but here in North Carolina the majority voted gay marriage illegal, my county voted 80% anti gay.
I should have said this in the first post: Congrats to Ray Guy. Punters, Kickers, and Long Snappers play football too. They have an incredible skill that is valued in the NFL and if they separate themselves as the best they should be in the Hall Of Fame. If you don't consider Kickers football players then take kicking out of football.
The problem with Hall of Fame voting is who votes. It should be players and coaches in my opinion. Strahan plays in a big market, you see him on TV all the time, he's first ballot because he's relevant. Other guys have amazing careers and lives and wait because of name recognition or their behavior towards the media.
These numbers mean nothing to me. Numbers are for kids. Cam is a great talent that has exceeded expectations. Every QB comes into the league under unique circumstances. Their teammates and coaches are unique. Some guys deal with health issues despite performing well. The OP is cherry picking statistics to make a point.
I'm really not disputing that Cam has had success. I just think statistics can not quantify it. Steve Smith is at the end of his career and his numbers do not match his performance. Guys like Elway played under different rules. Nowadays a blow to the head is a penalty and a fine. Back when Kerry Collins was a young guy people were headhunting him in preseason games.
Yeah, that means nothing. Street gang fights are no different than backyard brawls between teenagers. Two idiots running their mouth, shoving, and charging after each other and slinging haymakers recklessly. And you know what happens when you do that against a trained martial arts fighter? They break your arm or you wake up in the 4th grade.
It has nothing to do with the game being "tough." He doesn't have the skills or knowledge to take on a skilled and trained fighter. If the past reports are accurate and Zimmerman truly is a former boxer and martial arts student, he'd most likely make the game look like a complete fool.
Go watch some early 90s UFC. Middle aged, average build guys like Zimmerman who were trained martial arts guys beat the poo out of the strong, muscular "tough" guys.
You make Zimmerman sounds like Chuck Norris. If that is the case how did a 15 year old boy beat him to the point where he feared for his life. I probably don't want to go there.