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In Topic: Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Yesterday, 02:22 PM

Absolutely. I would use it as much as possible. It's also a reason I would stay far away from signing Greg Hardy (less about injuries, more about... You know, being crazy).


Understood. When Luke (because his agent undoubtedly is) ask the Panthers for the biggest contract in history of the NFL for a linebacker, you would franchise tag Luke, and then seek to trade or release him as he would represent too much cap being tied up in one player.

In Topic: Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Yesterday, 02:11 PM

I've already said what I'd do with Cam's contract. I would wait this season out, then use the franchise tag on him while I negotiate out a longterm contract. Would I hope the cap grew? Yes, I would. But we don't have that luxury with Cam, we know what the cap will most likely be next year.

I don't know what I'd do with Luke, like I said. I understand you're trying to make me choose one of the other so you can say, "ha! Cam Hater in disguise!" or "You're just a Cam nuthugger". In reality, I think Luke will be the highest paid MLB ever. Whatever rate that comes at.


I am not trying to make you choose anything...I am trying to fully understand you reasoning.


"It's not about 'sending the right message'. It's about making sure that, in the future, you're not in a situation where you have a player, any player, in a longterm deal with massive guaranteed money, because of the risks (injuries, mainly)."


^^^^ This is a very principle and logical policy. You want contracts that shift the burden of risks from the team to the players as much as possible. That's fair. Contracts 101.


What I am trying to understand is would you apply this policy indiscriminately.

In Topic: Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Yesterday, 01:55 PM

Of course not, but these are the leaders of the team and are the players that we want to build the team around so you should be paying them what you need to to keep them here for the next few years. 


Look where our contracts are at the moment, more than a third of our money is spent on a centre, running backs and Defensive ends. None of these guys are the guys we're building our team around so that's why we, as Panther fans are so wary of paying out where its deserved. 


This is a conversation that we have had for the better part of 2 years now. I usually use another QB as an example, but today I decided to go with Luke, someone closer to home.


Folks on the Huddle love to scream about how smart organizations do not tie up all their money in the QB position, or in the case of Newton, infer that we should let him walk because he will become too expensive. The Huddle then claims that we won't be able to get go pieces around the QB if we pay Newton his market value after his rookie deal is up.


That begs the question? Should the Hawks let Wilson walk when he undoubtedly ask for 25 million a year? What about Colts and Luck, when he undoubtedly asks for something approaching 30 million a season? What about the Panthers and Luke? When he asks for a contract putting him at the highest paid MLB?


Should the Hawks, Colts, and Panthers take the "principle" and "reasoned" approach and tell Wilson, Luck, and Luke to go kick rocks, and ensure that no player, for risk of "sinking too much money into one position and handicapping the rest of the roster" is paid market value?

In Topic: Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Yesterday, 01:42 PM

I'd hope the cap grows in two seasons enoug where you can take up Luke's option then sign him or franchise tag him eventually.


And this is what you are advocating that we do with Cam as well?


Hoping the cap grows in two seasons enough to where we can sign him? Or just franchise tag him?


I am just trying to figure out exactly what you want to do with Luke's pending contract.

In Topic: Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Yesterday, 01:35 PM

I honestly have no idea what Luke's contract will look like. I seriously hope he doesn't ask for JJ Watt money, or we could be totally fuged.


Let's say that Luke, like Cam or any other player save a few, ask for a long term deal with lots of guaranteed money to shift the risk allocation of injury to the team...


What would you do with Luke then, let him go?

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