i will be one of the ones going bonkers most likely, albeit for a short period of time. i trust Gettleman after the magic he worked last offseason. but i cant for the life of me imagine why we need another OLB right now. we have two legitimate backups in Blackburn and Klein. if the team chose an OLB at any pick, i would not understand it. if we waste a 1st or 2nd rounder on a position that is nowhere near a need, i will be upset. i'll come to accept it and watch and see, but i'll initially be upset.
i agree with you that this topic creates blithering idiots, and on both sides. most people who want the BPA dont make it clear that they want the BPA that fills the needs of the team. neither do they acknowledge that BPA is a relative term. BPA could also be interpreted as Best Fit Available, which could seem to be "reaching" to some people. there is a limit to the reasonable reach IMO, and just because a player is listed at the top of the media's big board at the Panthers' pick doesnt mean the Panthers should chose that player. BPA according to the Panthers' big board? sure. fire away. but people dont specify that either.
perhaps its the ambiguity of the term "BPA" that aggravates me more than the concept itself. it just seems to me that some people would have the Panthers pick a bunch of random players that dont fill the needs of the team just because that player is listed on the top of the media's big board. thats the impression they give and it frustrates me.
i understand what you are saying but i try and think of it kind of like this. obviously picking a QB or a RB or a OG or a C at the 28th pick is retarded. because the value wouldn't be there. it's kind of a mix of BPA and need.
but filling needs does not give you the best overall team. you keep drafting the most talented players on your big board. lets say at 28 we have a choice between shazier or morgan moses. would shazier be the better pick long term or would morgan moses? who would have the best impact on our team? id wager shazier would. our defense would change with shazier at the pick. we could be 10 times more creative even with TD on the field. Think big impact, game changing plays. Or a Tackle who can protect our QB. Who has the greater chance of succeeding at their position? Now what if we picked morgan moses to be our starting left tackle. Would he have a bigger impact on the overall team then shazier? thats where i think the argument needs to be. Who will have the bigger impact immediately but more importantly long term. Would you rather have an A+ player or a B player just because that B player fills a need. It gets tricky here, because i can see the argument that "well damn is Byron Bell going to be our starting left tackle?" i can see both sides but i wont freak the fug out if that is the pick.
it's all about impact, especially in the first two rounds. Who will have the biggest impact on your team for the immediate but most importantly the long-term. I just hope to god OBJ is there at 28 because i love that dude.
i firmly believe this guy is going to be special at the next level
this faulty line of thinking is what gets teams 4-6 RB's while the rest of their needs suffer. the only way i support BPA is if it is "BPA according to needed positions". take the best OT, WR, CB, S, DT, TE, DE, RB available. and with the exception of OT and WR (of which we need 2 of each), we meet our need with one pick and move to another. ie, once a CB is picked, dont fuggin pick another. move to the next need.
and even then... BPA is no indication of future production. i wonder if Everette Brown and Jeff Otah were BPA at the time we picked them? What about Jon Beason and Jonathan Stewart, who have been injured more than they've played?
sorry... the concept of BPA makes me angry. every time its suggested, it seems to be the lazy cop-out. "we shouldnt waste time researching which players best fit our scheme. lets just take whoever the fug the media decides is the "best" pick when its our turn! everything will turn out great then!"
no offense to you Herbert. im not calling you stupid or anything. its the ideology im against. not you.
Best player available and a player who fits your scheme go hand in hand. He's your highest rated player because he fits into what you are trying to do on offense or defense.
It's actually not a cop out and furthermore it creates a lot of blithering idiots shouting from rooftops.
Watch what happens if we pick shazier in the first if he is our highest rated player. This place will go bonkers.
Was there a influx of "why we shouldn't have cut Smitty" threads lately? ?
It seem like most people have moved on. So why the need to over labor the point??
because he was the greatest panther of all time?
a lot of the griping has been 13 year old teenage girl poo. the OP actually made a thread about why Gettleman and the FO decided to move on from Smitty with videos and poo. this is literally like one of the best threads about the move.
but then you get the "yea lets trash the GOAT panther" crowd getting all butthurt. but the truth of the matter is that this is more than likely part of the reason why they decided to move on from him (as well as financially).
this move will be talked about for as long as we live kkl
I have a major problem with this mentality that Cam can't be the "top dog so to speak".
I saw no problem with Jake getting us to a Super Bowl or the NFC Championship game with Smitty on the field.
I can get that. Thats not the issue though. Smith was on his way out. Has a few years left. Jake and Cam are not the same people. I think Gettleman wants Cam to groom this new set of receivers.
I think they want Cam to have total control of everything. And i'm telling you I believe in this guy more than any panther player thats ever been here. More than smitty. We all know smitty's personality and his "throw me the fuging ball" routine. I have loved it. But give Cam the full authority where every single person in that huddle is looking at him as the #1 leader and watch this kid blossom. He is that special. It's his time to be the sole voice of this panther offense.
And the "fan base" continues to shyt on the greatest Panther to ever hit the field.
this is not shitting on the greatest player to wear a panthers uniform.
the OP is showing what would have rustled Gettlemans feathers. There is a major difference.
fwiw. i loved every fuging second of this past season and smitty's antics. his last season as a panther is something i will remember for the rest of my life. think about all the great moments he had this past year. his last year as a panther.
I think Gettleman wants Cam in control of his recievers. To be the top dog so to speak. to be the general. There was no reigning in smitty. everyone knows that.
It was a mix of country western music as well. To say other wise is revisionist history
I can go into further detail than this but
Read up on the British Invasion and American rock n roll, listen to some allman brothers then listen to some old blues guitarists. Some of it is interchangeable minus technology that was developed like Jimis wah wah and the distortion pedal.
If you asked those musicians who there biggest influences were it would be those old blues guitarists like son house and Robert Johnson. This isn't revisionist history. You can hear the influence easily.
If you ask yourself who or what band was the quintessential American rock n rollers who would you say that would be?