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FootballMaestro

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#3097067 I don't think I've ever seen the fanbase against our HC coach this mu...

Posted by FootballMaestro on 19 November 2014 - 11:39 AM

Thank you for the delete button.

 

I originally made the mistake of voting "No", not realizing the question was "do you want Ron Rivera gone". Lol. :sick:

 

Of course, I want him gone. So I voted yes!! :roadrage:




#3095574 Jason Avant Cut

Posted by FootballMaestro on 18 November 2014 - 02:06 PM

There are worse performers, but likely none of them are in a "leadership" role with such young (and important) players under them.

 

 

Yes, he was let go 1st and foremost for his comments, secondly for his poor play, and thirdly for DG to see younger players get reps.

 

 

It's not a bad football move, although it does sting.

 

I hear ya.

 

But the cold reality is: This is not a respected organization and coaching staff. So any message to KB or whoever would fall on deaf ears.

 

And regardless of the rationale, this move can't help the Panthers with free agents, player morale and respect, cause everyone knows what Avant said was true.

 

Sometimes organizations have to THINK before they make moves. You can't always be "Willy Nilly" due to some misbegotten principles.

 

Let's face it. Rivera's not an NFL Head Coach. I knew this from his first year. And everyone knows it now if the didn't before (except seemingly The Panther organization).

 

Why bet on the wrong horse?




#3095311 Jason Avant Cut

Posted by FootballMaestro on 18 November 2014 - 01:04 PM

I agree it was petty, no doubt. But he wasn't a key piece of the puzzle anyway.

 

Agree.

 

Problem is: What message does that send to the locker room.

 

That's the issue.

 

Do they expect the team to perform better now, and be happier after this???
 




#3095296 Jason Avant Cut

Posted by FootballMaestro on 18 November 2014 - 01:02 PM

Why the consternation over Avant? He was a bum, still is. Means Philly sees the field more. I'm OK with that.

 

Because it was a petty move, only loser organizations do, when the Panthers have so many other problems; especially in their coaching staff.




#3093461 Are there any Rivera defenders left or are we 100% against him coming back?

Posted by FootballMaestro on 17 November 2014 - 02:30 PM

I still basically think he needs to go, but yesterday was not his fault, nor was it Shula's fault.

The players didn't execute.

If you constantly blame the coach for everything, it makes you lose credibility. Sometimes losses are on players, and yesterday was one of those times.

 

This is where Rivera is stupid: If he would have ran a real offense, trying to score a TD, or get closer for a FG, and it failed, then you can blame the players. Absolutely. Sounds simple right?

 

However, Rivera had no interest in a first down; running the ball up the gut 3X, looking to settle for a Near 50 yard FG with 1:30 secs left. That's the failure.

 

Even if Gano makes it, chances are Ryan (who's done it against the Panthers and Rivera before) marches up the field and kicks a FG for the win anyway.

 

That is why Rivera's being blamed. It's because, not only did he not make the right decision. It's because this has happened to him over and over again during his mostly pitiful 4yr NFL Head Coaching Career.
 




#3093328 Pep Hamilton

Posted by FootballMaestro on 17 November 2014 - 01:10 PM

I really dont want to roll the dice again on a HC like we did with Ron.  I'd like an established coach.  Someone thats been in the poo so to speak and wont go through their first few seasons like deer caught in headlights.

 

Isn't this the logic of not hiring Chip Kelly, and other better candidates?

 

When are we going to learn ANY Head Coach is better than Ron Rivera!!




#3092114 Bruce Arians just called a pass on 3rd to win the game.

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 08:04 PM

This alone should show people what a good coach can do for a qb. Both stanton and palmer are cast offs and his systems sets them up for success. God i hope we can give cam and this offense this.

 

Better do it quick, or I think Cam is gone!!
 




#3092000 Bruce Arians just called a pass on 3rd to win the game.

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 07:30 PM

He was a candidate in 2011 when we hired the tugboat.

 

Yup!

 

And the Panthers appeared to never even consider him, despite Ron Ron being on the ledge the way he was.

 

I never thought, Rivera was an NFL level Head Coach, so I never cared who they hired to replace Rivera.

 

I had seen enough after his first two seasons. Don't care what he did last year.

 

OH well.
 




#3091960 Ron Rivera Must Go

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 07:20 PM

Hiring a rookie head coach and then turning around and  drafting a player like Cam was never a good move. We needed someone who knew what they were doing from the start.

 

 

When Rivera said during the middle of the first season "he had to learn how to be a head coach" that was the nail in the coffin all the way back then.

 

He does not hold a candle to somebody like Harbaugh or Kelly. They have been in the business and know the ropes. And it shows instantly.

 

Can  you imagine if the Panthers would have hired Bruce Arians two years ago instead of keeping Rivera. Sigh/SMH

 

Arizona's 9-1 now. And they beat the loaded Detroit Lions, cause they have a better coach.

 

 




#3091900 Does Rivera have a chance at staying another year?

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 07:05 PM

Perhaps the real question:

 

Who leaves first, Cam Newton via free agency or Ron Rivera via firing or contract?

 

If I'm Cam Newton, I'm not coming back if Rivera's still the HC in Carolina.

 

So for Panthers fans sake (and my rationale) they better fire his ass pronto!!
 




#3091749 What makes you feel better after another pathetic loss ?

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 06:14 PM

To The OP: The closer it's gets us to Rivera being fired!!




#3090907 Official Panthers - Falcons Gameday Thread

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 04:17 PM

We have all the momentum, are moving the ball right down the field, then our FUGGIN WORTHLESS INBRED COACH decides to take the air out of the ball when we just barely get within FG range because he is the dumbest piece of poo ever to set foot on a GD NFL field.  Even if we had made the hail mary FG, we all know that they would have come back down the field and beat us anyway.  Why do novices no fuggin bodies like us know this but our HC doesn't? 

 

I wish I could pie you 18 times.
 




#3090873 Official Panthers - Falcons Gameday Thread

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 04:14 PM

I'm going through the past 8 pages of this thread, and the ratio of blaming Rivera vs. blaming Gano is astounding.

 

Yes, Gano missed.

 

But even if he made it, chances are (going by the Panthers repeated recent history) he marches down the field and wins anyway.

 

As if he hasn't done it already.




#3090806 Official Panthers - Falcons Gameday Thread

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 04:10 PM

Rivera's an idiot.

 

Such a coward.

 

He put both Gano and Cam in positions they shouldn't be.

 

At least if you throw an INT going for the win you were aggressive. And if you miss a closer FG, at least you tried. However, Rivera did neither.

 

Fire his gutless ass right now!




#3090730 Official Panthers - Falcons Gameday Thread

Posted by FootballMaestro on 16 November 2014 - 04:05 PM

Why would Rivera kick a FG so far, and presumably give Atlanta the ball back with so much time??

 

As if they haven't blown sub 60 sec, no time out, 4th qtr leads in the past?






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