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14 hours ago, TD alt said:

By several accounts, Tepper isn't as hardly as involved as he was. That's been the criticism: that he meddles. We didn't hear or see much from Tepper in the war room; he was basically trusting his team to do their thing without much participation as it pertained to wheeling and dealing. He is also saying the right things now, and, as evidenced by the formerly mentioned, following through.

Earlier this year in a discussion with Mike Kaye, Tepper referred to Morgan, Canales and Brandt as a an "excellent management team."

He also added, "We're just getting started, so we're just building through this year and...it's just building and building and building, and I think, you know, we'll build in the next few years."

 

No offense but thats vague as hell 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

how can you not see him.  Not sure, how he is more behind the scenes here.  He is placed between the GM and HC for a reason.   Tepper literally was ready to light the Bryce Young experiment on fire after 2 weeks this past season and people are calling him turning over a new patient leaf lol.  Tepper isn't going to change.  That's not what old billionaires do. 

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I've seen the video, not a photo. Tepper basically wasn't saying a damned thing. Stop acting like owners of teams aren't in the war room.

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54 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I've seen the video, not a photo. Tepper basically wasn't saying a damned thing. Stop acting like owners of teams aren't in the war room.

yeah, Panther PR has done the Tepper is taking a backseat PR tour before.   It wasn't true at all the first time we saw them attempt that.   All the stuff you are referencing is stuff produced and put out by the Panthers. 

I'm not acting like owners aren't in the war room.   I'm just saying Tepper is a proven commodity.  He is what he is.  And his tenure with BOTH his professional sports teams tell the exact same story about him.  

He is not patient.  He didn't show patience last year.  He moved on from an absurd investment 2 games into the season.....and a frankly unimaginable turnaround by Bryce that was only allowed by injury reset some things. 

I'm sure a billion times Raiders or Dallas or whatever fans convinced themselves their owners turned a new leaf too.  I'm not buying that.  There just isn't anything supporting Tepper isn't Tepper IMO. 

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

No offense but thats vague as hell 

It's your right to refer to it as vague, but it still flouts the theory of "zero evidence" that Tepper is changing. Here's another:

"Carolina Panthers head coach Dave Canales and general manager Dan Morgan are reportedly being given a larger leadership role within the organization.

Panthers owner David Tepper 'has taken a more hands-off approach of late,' according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler.

'He's trying to trust Canales and GM Dan Morgan to get it right, knowing that the roster requires patience in its current state,' Fowler wrote. 'We shall see if he holds to that.'"

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10146782-report-panthers-david-tepper-has-taken-a-more-hands-off-approach-to-team

 

""David Tepper just wants to win and he's gonna supply everything that we need to win..

Things are changing around here and things are looking really positive" ~ Dan Morgan 

https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1917639137550627107?t=6vgo8yXTO6eD0Gb55hyzNg&s=19

 

From about 2:15-6:35, Julian Council, Locked on Panthers, gives his take on whether Tepper seems to be changing (and specifically referenced the war room in his analysis): 

 

Dean Jones of Cat Crave on David Tepper in the war room.

"He was an innocent bystander throughout a hugely important decision, placing full trust in Morgan and Tilis to make the right call."

Jones also quoted Pat McAfee:

"What I noticed though, at one point, they looked at (David) Tepper to get an answer, Tepper didn’t say sh*t. All anybody has said about Tepper is that he’s hands-on, hands-on, hands-on. Too handsy, too involved. He’s not letting the football people do their thing. We just watched in the biggest moment for their franchise, a top ten pick, he just sat there and let everybody do their jobs. I think if you’re a Panthers fan, you love everything you saw there."

https://catcrave.com/silence-from-david-tepper-becomes-panthers-loudest-victory

Granted, you're not getting a major headline here, but that's not going to happen anyway. Fowler isn't exactly a nobody, everybody knows McAfee, and you also have some locals that follow the team (including Dean Jones). Of course you have a right to believe that Tepper hasn't really changed, but to say there is no evidence that he just may be changing is not really true. It's just not. Hate the guy, but the way that he has handled this current regime is different than he handled previous teams, and his silence in the war room and publicly in general is different than years back.

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I feel that the whole Tepper is to involved in running the team thing was greatly overblown.  IMO, Tepper's biggest mistake was hiring bad coaches and bad GM's to run things.  So far at least, results under Morgan and Canales appear to be better, but we will see.  

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I feel that the whole Tepper is to involved in running the team thing was greatly overblown.  IMO, Tepper's biggest mistake was hiring bad coaches and bad GM's to run things.  So far at least, results under Morgan and Canales appear to be better, but we will see.  

It's too early to tell. If he's stepped back that's a good thing obviously. But to say it was greatly overblown is rather ridiculous. This is the same man who held a press conference after firing Reich where he did virtually all the talking. Seems he's at least learned from all that though. We can only hope it will last.

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20 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's too early to tell. If he's stepped back that's a good thing obviously. But to say it was greatly overblown is rather ridiculous. This is the same man who held a press conference after firing Reich where he did virtually all the talking. Seems he's at least learned from all that though. We can only hope it will last.

I mean, even their own propoganda videos showed how much he was involved for years. Not to mention the umpteen articles mentioning it from "sources."

The narrative, which is likely somewhat true at the bare minimum, didn't pop up out of thin air.

Snyder had that rep. Turns out.....100% accurate.

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