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#3100097 Republican blogger: The GOP wins set up party for spectacular, catastrophic f...

Posted by Jase on Yesterday, 05:49 PM


#3099919 Post a pic, any pic.

Posted by Jase on Yesterday, 02:11 PM

Lord have mercy.


#3099774 where the hell did googoodan go?

Posted by Jase on Yesterday, 11:42 AM

look on the bright side... you still have me!


Right, guys?



#3099768 Have Fun

Posted by Jase on Yesterday, 11:39 AM


#3099702 Acceptable Thanksgiving Pies

Posted by Jase on Yesterday, 11:10 AM

I have done some research and found a pretty awesome site as a resource in this discussion.





What is pie and what is not pie?

Believe it or not a concise definition for pie does not exist that everyone agrees with.



There are some pie definitions that some like while others would hate. Pies are not pies just because they are called pies. The American treat called Eskimo pie is definitely ice cream. Moon pie is a chocolate biscuit. Boston cream pie is certainly a cake baked in a pie tin.


How do we handle a cobbler or pandowdy? As failed pies with creative tops. Then we have cottage pie and shepherd’s pie. But none of these pies have a pastry.


First Law of Pies: Pies must have a pastry made from some sort of grain, wheat, rice, cracker or cookie crumbs. No pastry, No pie!


Second Law of Pies: Pies must be baked in an oven at some time of the process or pseudo bake -  like no baked pie custards. Pies are not fried, boiled or steamed.


What? Not fried! This comes to our next pie law. We must quantify the time period we are defining pie for since it took on different means through the ages. Pies from the 16th century until now where all baked in a dish, a pie dish, and of an edible tasty crust. So the definition of pies will cover the time period of the 16th Century until now.


Therefore, our pie definition will not include fried pies that are more like turnovers or store bought package pies like Hostess. A fried pie is really no different than a jelly filled doughnut.


Fried pastry is not what we visualize when we thank of pie. If so? Why not call a fry won ton a pie.


Third Law of Pies: A pie shall be baked in some form of a dish - metal, ceramic or glass.


The next point to make is which pastry is mandatory or how many? Must it have a bottom crust or must it have a bottom and top crust. Maybe you prefer just a top crust.


Oxford English Dictionary defines a pie as:
A baked dish of fruit, meat, fish, or vegetables, covered with pastry (or a similar substance) and freq. Also having a base and sides of pastry. Also (chiefly N. Amer.): a baked open pastry case filled with fruit: a tart or flan.


It seems Europe makes the top crust essential to be a pie.


America makes the bottom crust the primary statue for a pie.


According to the British English bakers, the American open single crust pie is a tart or flan. So the definition is less clear. For argument state if you are in America, a pie must have a bottom crust of some sort of pastry.


Fourth Law of Pie: A pie in America must have a bottom crust of some sort of pastry.


Is a tart, a pie and a pie a tart? Tart comes from the word torture, which comes from the same Latin root. The pastry is twisted or torture to fit the dish which is layered with custard and jam, decorated with fruit, leaving it in all other respects ‘open’, just a bottom crust.



A tart never has a top crust. The filling of tarts are not as deep as a pie and tend to be somewhat shallow. Not mandatory but tarts have optional sides of pastry, and if there is one, the sides are in most cases perpendicular to the base.


Common tarts have a custard base stuffed with fruit laid out in an organized matter.


Tarte Tatin is an upside down tart, normally filled with fruit like apples.


Fifth Law of Pie: A pie must have a pastry that comes up on the sides to contain its filling. A tart is a subset of the pie. If sides are perpendicular, filled with custard and topped with fruit, the pie is called a tart.


#3099673 Acceptable Thanksgiving Pies

Posted by Jase on Yesterday, 10:59 AM

You can have custard in a bowl, as it was meant to be served.


We shall fight at dawn

#3099662 Acceptable Thanksgiving Pies

Posted by Jase on Yesterday, 10:57 AM

I have never had thanksgiving without two pies: pecan and custard pie.  You can GTFO if you think custard pie is unworthy. 


It has nutmeg, which is one of the sacred traditional thanksgiving flavors.

#3098834 Crude oil may drop to $50 a barrel

Posted by Jase on 20 November 2014 - 04:31 PM

January is a pretty good time to buy oil historically



#3098664 Republicans pass a bill restricting scientists from advising the EPA

Posted by Jase on 20 November 2014 - 01:46 PM

having dealt with the EPA and organizations of their ilk, I say it needs more scientists and less bureaucrats

#3097723 Post a pic, any pic.

Posted by Jase on 19 November 2014 - 07:10 PM


#3097530 Offensive Focus Next Year?

Posted by Jase on 19 November 2014 - 04:23 PM

geez paintballr, wreck up the place much?

#3096984 Before you start Christmas Shopping....

Posted by Jase on 19 November 2014 - 10:58 AM

My present for all of you.





#3096909 Can you hear it?

Posted by Jase on 19 November 2014 - 10:16 AM

Age 30 and 2 months and I hear it.  Suck it, youngins!

#3096857 Before you start Christmas Shopping....

Posted by Jase on 19 November 2014 - 09:38 AM

already got your present for you, old friend.





#3096081 To Cam's Hacker....

Posted by Jase on 18 November 2014 - 05:05 PM

"Gatorade causes brain cancer #educateyourself"

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