I'm a huge Panthers fan originally from Hickory NC. I moved to Destin Florida 10 years ago, and I love it here. I am, without a doubt, the biggest Panthers fan in the state of Florida. I am also a fan of the Florida Gators football program, and a Carolina Tarheels basketball fan.
Who is the young talent we can fill in for Gross? We better hope he returns,
I hope he returns at a reasonable price. I think he will, and I think the FO thinks he will too, so that is the reason they let it come to this point. As a way to negotiate with him.
Worst case scenario if he leaves is that we find his replacement (and or RT as well) of the future at a very muchreduced rate considering the rookie cap is in place. Left Tackle is one of the highest paid positions on the field, so to lock one in with a multiple year single digit million dollar contract relaves lots of cap space verses the salary of a 4 or 5 time probowl Left tackle such as Gross.
I hope we can brng him back for 2 more years while our championship contender 'window' is wide open, and go ahead and draft a guy at RT to replce Bell and possibly Gross afterwards. Either way, we need an offensive tackle now, and another when Gross leaves. Go ahead and pick the best one availible this spring and use it as a negotiation tactic when dealing with Gross. Football is cuthroat capitalism. When the good of the team is at stake, sometimes you have to separate feelings from the equation. No matter what happens, Gross will go down as one of the top Panthers.
Andrew Luck is more like Bret Favre than like Manning.
Plus the media is trying to back up what the said about Luck and Newton pre-Draft.
Newton was the immature scam guy with the fake smile... and they are trying so hard to redeem themselves for what they said about him. Now that we are winning and they see that it isnt going to happen, they made up the whole 'mature' script that they say 27 times a game. The team knows that Cam has always been Cam, and that it is just media spin to get out of the things they said about him.
Well, the same is true about Luck. They proclaimed him the greatest QB since Peyton Manning before he was even drafted... So in order to not appear to be idiots, they must continue to write about him in a way that shows that 'they were right', "it was just (another) bad game".
I dont like riding the 'media hates Cam card', but I figured I would respond to the thread in the manner that I think is closest to the truth. It is about media and the soap opera that they try to paint the league out to be. They are just generating media buzz for link clicks.
Wilson is a great QB. I would start a franchise around someone like him any day of the week.
If I was totally unbiased, I'm almost certain I'd take Wilson ahead of Cam, Luck, Kaep, RG III, etc if I was starting a franchise today.
Wilson is pretty good, I'll give you that.
Bu anyone who knows the X's and O's of football can see that Cam is clearly more talented and his game has progressed further than Wilson's has.
Wilson is still running a college style offense like Cam was doing his rookie year, and even when Cam was a rookie, he was still making NFL throws down the field that I have seen Wilson make only a couple of times.
Wilson relies more on his legs to roll out of the pocket and make plays, while Cam is more of a pocket passer who uses his legs when he needs to, but doesnt rely on his athletic ability to carry him.
If both QBs were to have the same exact offense for a season, it would be obvious that Cam was much better, and ditto for Kaepernck's offense as well.
I wouldnt argue that one single bit. Any other year I would have taken Smith over any of those guys. but your point proves how much better Cam is than Colin doing more with so, so much less. QB, C and FB are the only positions on offense where we are better and only QB are we significantly better but our offense was stronger until you got fully healthy, now pretty much even.
Imagine how good Cam would have it if he had the weapons that Kap has.
Look how much more pass yardage and total offense we had in 2011 when we had Shockey along with the other guys. Cam was throwing for 400 yards a game.
I think we have a real shot at going all the way this year, but if we come up short, I know we will be back and even better next year when we get a few more playmakers at WR and shore up the right side of the O-line.
I'm hoping he's got a bag of tricks that he has saved for the postseason.
We have a weapon at QB and we havent used him much this year. I hope we get to see some designed Cam runs. I think that he plays better once he gets his adrenaline pumping. It helps him shake off the nerves I think.
Say what you want, but Dwan Edwards has been an impact player since Rivera (yes, I said Rivera) brought him here. His contribution has been somewhat underrated and understated, especially here on the Huddle in my opinion. He brings that experienced veteran presence that frankly solidifies the line, and is the best insurance policy that the line is going to consistently do what it needs to do: get that push. I really appreciate what he's brought to the table.
All that being said, we have the young hog mollies in Short and Cole, and Edwards will be 33 next season provided that he wants to continue his career (which I assume that he does). I would think that he would especially want to continue to be a Panther, and should be comfortable with his role on the team. I just wonder whether or not he is going to want that much more money, and what the market is willing to bare for his services.
In any event, his presence was sorely missed for a bit this year, and I suspect that he will be missed next year if his situation demands that he moves on.
I want to keep every one of our guys on the D-line.
Addison, Horton, Edwards, Lotu, Short, Hardy, CJ, Alexander, and I hope I didnt miss anybody.
Our rotation keeping those guys fresh is how we dominate the line of scrimage. This is without a doubt the number one factor in why we have won 12 games this year. Yes Thonas Davis and Keek and the DBs are a part of it too, but in almost all of our big games this year that had playoff potential... the determining factor was the big boys up front.
I do admit that some of the guys in more of a 'back-up role' in he rotation are going to be lured away by other teams, but I do hope we can keep as many as we reasonably can and still be able to keep it going. It is our bread and butter, we wouldnt be winning wthout them.
"It's all about the numbers with me. I don't really have an end game to where I want to hustle or play around or play the market," Hardy said. "I want a big number that I worked for, nothing imaginary. And if you don't believe me, tell me what you want me to do and I'll go do it for you. And then give me my number and we'll be good."
"I would love a franchise, man. Add another year on my career," Hardy said. "Get to play football a little bit longer without a contract, another year to be in Carolina to give them a chance to get their fiscal responsibilities in order so we can be here forever like Steve (Smith) and a lot of other guys like Thomas (Davis)."