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Mr. Scot

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#3036991 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 11:25 AM

Rivera has basically had various degrees of mediocre talent since he has been here, and he has had a modicum of success.  It's also arguable that he has done a pretty fair job making the transition from a DC to an HC.  The only real finger pointing I do at Rivera is his decision to keep Shula at the expense of Hue Jackson.

As for the way that this season has gone, at the end of the day we are 3-3-1 with the division lead (ugly as it has been).  With the dearth of talent, which is squarely on G-man's shoulders, if he's going to pull the plug on Rivera because of this crap, then he needs to pull the plug on himself.  

 

If you are suggesting that maybe Rivera had a lucky season last year, then I could easily say the same thing about G-man.  This offseason, including the draft, up until now has not looked pretty.  It just bespeaks of gambling with the risk of possibly tanking because of deficiencies on both sides of the ball that were outright neglected.

 

It could be argued the team in general had a 'lucky season' last year.  Nobody expected us to be that good.

 

Honestly, given all the injuries, you could argue we're having an 'unlucky season' this year :(
 




#3036987 Bad Hurney Contracts: Who's Left?

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 11:24 AM

Ryan Kalil is one of my favorite Panthers of all time.  Arguably our best lineman ever (Jordan Gross is really the only other option in that debate).

 

That said, yeah I could see him being replaced.  Would hate it, but i could understand it.

 

The meltdown here would be epic if it happens.




#3036975 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 11:20 AM

None of us know what happens behind closed doors and Gettle could be ruthless in this regard as well. Tough to fire any staff after 12-4 season.

If a scout or lower level position guy was fired, would we even hear about it?

 

Maybe if Aaron Wilson reported it.

 

Our beat writers don't exactly get a lot of 'scoops'.
 




#3036946 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 11:09 AM

I can't really separate the reservations about Rivera from the reservations about Gettleman right about now.

 

I had the reservations about Rivera before Gettleman got here.
 




#3036944 Bad Hurney Contracts: Who's Left?

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 11:08 AM

We all know about CJ and the RB's, that's been discussed to death. But the numbers for both Kalil and Davis are much too high as well. I'm sorry, but 10 million allocated to a 4-3 OLB and over 11 million for a center are just crazy numbers. Neither of those are considered critical positions in today's NFL. 

 

Gettleman has some very tough decisions to make. I expect he is going to become less popular around here short of us winning a Super Bowl.

 

I do think Kalil actually could wind up being a cap casualty.

 

Hate it because he's absolutely one of the best in the league and how can you not love Ryan Kalil, but it's a business and yeah, his cap figure is high.
 




#3036881 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 10:29 AM

I don't believe for one moment that Gettleman's thought Bell and Chandler are part of this team's core.

I believe he wanted to see if they would develop since there wasn't any better options available that didn't hinder being able to continue building this teams core. Such as extending Cam, etc.

 

I'd agree he's had to go cheap in some areas (thanks again Marty) and I'm pretty sure rolling with Bell at left tackle wasn't exactly his favorite idea.

 

But he did ultimately sign off on it. 
 




#3036874 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 10:26 AM

Nope, Gettleman just signed Rivera and the rest of his staff to an extension, not only would the Panthers have to pay out the rest of their contracts, but also pay another coach and his staff. Which will be very costly.

 

And as mentioned elsewhere, I know because we had the whole John Fox lame duck thing that people believe Richardson wouldn't sign off on firing a coach under contract, but I'm not so sure that's true.

 

For one, Dom Capers was fired only two years into a ten year extension.  If Richardson was willing to go with that, three years is nothing.

 

There's also the fact that John Fox's lame duck season was an absolute Mongolian Cluster %#@$, and I don't really think Richardson wants to go through something like that again.
 

All that said, I don't believe Rivera will be on the hot seat this coming offseason unless the team looks like an absolute, unmitigated dumpster fire by season's end.

 

And sadly, despite our current record and standing, I do think that could happen :(




#3036855 How would you build your offense around Cam?

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 10:18 AM

I don't build any differently than I would around any other quarterback.

 

O-Line first, then receivers/tight end, then runningbacks.

 

A few years ago, I'd probably have put runningbacks second, but not the way the league is these days.




#3036843 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 10:14 AM

you should read the all-pro section about the oline

 

Not a paid member (have considered it).

 

My thing about the OL is I agree with his idea of building a young core and letting them grow together, but I think the choice to make guys like Bell and Chandler part of that "core' was an awful one.

 

As mentioned elsewhere, I put a lot of that on Rivera for believing in guys he shouldn't have, but ultimately it's Gettleman who has the final say.

 

Which brings up a related question: If Gettleman believes the coach is wrong about a player decision, will he override him?

 

Steve Smith, Charles Godfrey and others point to 'yes' but Byron Bell and Nate Chandler point to a very big 'no'.
 




#3036834 My biggest worry about Gettleman

Posted by Mr. Scot on Today, 10:09 AM

Firing Rivera still comes down to JR.

 

Prior to this year, would anyone have believed Jerry Richardson would sign off on cutting Steve Smith?

 

I think Richardson trusts Gettleman way more in the area of football decisions than he did Hurney.  The Smith release isn't the only evidence of that, but it's the biggest.

 

Mind you, there's also been some chatter that Richardson isn't that high on Rivera, but as far as I know it's unsubstantiated.
 




#3035941 [Video] Panthers Rookies Visit Levine Children's Hospital

Posted by Mr. Scot on Yesterday, 05:09 PM

This is one of my favorite Panther traditions.




#3035938 Lester Re-Signed To Practice Squad Along With Former Browns OT Martin Wallace

Posted by Mr. Scot on Yesterday, 05:07 PM

More about Wallace: http://owlsports.com...0903124854.aspx

He's 6'6 - i.e. a Gettleman type player - majored in criminal justice, is known to be very intelligent and is apparently something of a goofball off the field.

 

(sounds like he and Kalil should get along)
 




#3035932 Bad Hurney Contracts: Who's Left?

Posted by Mr. Scot on Yesterday, 05:03 PM

Nah man, everything happens in a one-year vacuum.

 

Who gives a poo about long-term planning!!

 

Sadly, we actually used to operate under that philosophy.

 

(hence, where we are now)
 




#3035929 Bad Hurney Contracts: Who's Left?

Posted by Mr. Scot on Yesterday, 05:00 PM

There's also these guys named Newton and Kuechly that they'd like to sign to long-term deals sometime in the next few years.

 

You might have heard of them.




#3035913 Bad Hurney Contracts: Who's Left?

Posted by Mr. Scot on Yesterday, 04:55 PM

yea not much of a secret or question why we cant compete at quite a high enough level.  that is 7-10 quality starters right there

 

Yet people will still get pissed if we don't throw big money, guaranteed contracts at free agents.
 






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