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Mr. Scot

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#2506793 Another MNF Controversy?

Posted by Mr. Scot on 24 November 2013 - 12:23 PM

If journalists can't be objective then they lose my respect, period. I don't read for opinions if I wanted that then I would go to the other teams message board.

I can't tell if this is a result of Schefters preference in teams or if it's merely to stir the pot. This is basically the medias new Fail Mary. So it's difficult to tell.

 

I'd love to hear Schefter explain how Brady gets another shot at a touchdown when his final pass was intercepted.

 

(someone with Twitter should ask him)

 

Whatever his personal feelings are, that's just ignorance of plain, obvious facts.




#2506768 Another MNF Controversy?

Posted by Mr. Scot on 24 November 2013 - 12:08 PM

So, rewatching the entire final drive.  Here's what I see (time sequenced)

 

0:59 - 1st and 10 from their own 20, incomplete pass intended for Julian Edelman; 4 seconds off the clock

 

0:55 - 2nd and 10 from the 20, incomplete pass intended for Danny Amendola; Tom Brady takes a hit from Dwan Edwards and Charles Johnson; 4 seconds off the clock

 

0:51 - 3rd and 10 from the 20, incomplete pass intended for Shane Vereen; Brady takes another hit from Dwan Edwards; 4 seconds off the clock

 

0:47 - 4th and 10 from the 20, Brady completes to Rob Gronkowski for 23 yards; Patriots call their first time out; 7 seconds off the clock

 

0:40 - 1st and 10 from their own 43, incomplete pass intended for Rob Gronkowski; 5 seconds off the clock

 

0:35 - 2nd and 10 from the 43, Brady completes to Danny Amendola for 13 yards; Patriots call their second time out; 6 seconds off the clock 

 

0:29 - 1st and 10 from the Panthers 46, pass nearly intercepted by both Captain Munnerlyn and Melvin White; 6 seconds off the clock

 

0:23 - 2nd and 10 from the 46, incomplete pass intended for Shane Vereen; 6 seconds off the clock

 

0:17 - 3rd and 10 from the 46, incomplete pass intended for Aaron Dobson; penalty called for pass interference on Melvin White, Patriots get the ball at the Panthers 36; 5 seconds off the clock

 

0:12 - 1st and 10 from the 36, Brady completes to Shane Vereen for 11 yards; Brady takes another git from Dwan Edwards; Patriots call their final time out; 8 seconds off the clock but the refs add 2 seconds back

 

0:06 - The Panthers call time out before the play is run to adjust their defense

 

0:06 - 1st and 10 from the 25, Brady completes to Aaron Dobson for 7 yards; 3 seconds off the clock

 

0:03 - 2nd and 10 from the 18, Brady pass is intercepted by Robert Lester; penalty for pass interference is called on Luke Kuechly but then waved off after the ball is deemed uncatchable

 

Game Over

 

 

Things I noticed:

 

- Fair amount of holding, some of it arguably flagrant, on the part of the Patriots goes uncalled on this drive.  On one play, Mario Addison is almost tackled by Nate Solder, but no flag.

 

- The Panthers argued the ball was uncatchable on the penalty against Melvin White, and may have had a point.  It was close.  I could see it either way.

 

- Also notable, the penalty occurs quite clearly at the 35 yard line.  Dobson is running right on the line when he goes for the ball, but the 'spot of the foul' is set by the refs at the 36 yard line.

 

- On the completion to Vereen at 0:12, the clock runs to 0:04 but the Patriots call time out with 0:06 left, so the refs put 2 seconds back on the clock.

 

And one final note: I've seen that final play a hundred times now and I have no idea how anything but pure Patriot homerism leads anyone to conclude that Gronkowski could have gone through both Luke Kuechly (even if he wasn't grabbing him) and Robert Lester to catch that pass, which was obviously very poorly thrown. 

 

I honestly think it's quite likely that Brady just threw the pass in the general area deliberately trying to draw a flag but his strategy backfired.  Now, you'll never hear him or the Patriots admit that, but I'd say it's a darn good theory.

 

Bottom Line: We win.  They lose.  That's it.  Patriot homers can cry from now till the end of time and the result won't change, nor should it.




#2506671 Another MNF Controversy?

Posted by Mr. Scot on 24 November 2013 - 11:02 AM

He's just a hater. that's all. lol


My guess would be either Schefter or some ESPN staffer watched the play, noticed the clock on screen and said to himself "Whoa, they let the clock run after that play. THEY CHEATED!"

Amusing that they would run with that item despite the facts noted here that official time is kept on the field and, more to the point, the final pass from Brady was intercepted.

Ignorance of those facts makes Schefter, a guy whose whole job is to watch the NFL, look kinda dumb :lol:


#2506642 Another MNF Controversy?

Posted by Mr. Scot on 24 November 2013 - 10:48 AM

Brady threw a INT it really doesn't matter cause he wouldnt have got another shot anyway


Yeah, Schefter skipped that part :lol:

Also, my understanding has always been that official game time is kept by the refs on the field. Hence, why refs often call for scoreboard operators to put time back on the clock (as they did at the end of this one, moving the clock from three seconds to six).

Schefter's discussion misses both of these points.


#2506129 Can't get my girlfriend's dog to poop

Posted by Mr. Scot on 23 November 2013 - 08:09 PM

Well there's a thread title that just screams "click here" :lol:


#2506121 Jerry Jones: I'm doing some of my 'best work' as GM

Posted by Mr. Scot on 23 November 2013 - 08:01 PM

There's a saying about people acting as their own lawyer that "The man who serves as his own lawyer has a fool for a client."

I think that could be applied well here for the owner who serves as his own GM.

It makes you start to wonder: Is he grandstanding or is he just delusional at this point?

Does he really believe he's good at this? :blink:


#2505733 My birthday cake

Posted by Mr. Scot on 23 November 2013 - 11:54 AM

Very cool :)


#2504970 Question to fathers of teenage daughters...

Posted by Mr. Scot on 22 November 2013 - 03:39 PM

Welp....that's it folks.

 

Break out the canned foods, and stock up on batteries.

 

Sure sign of the apocalypse, right? :lol:

 

 

Great to hear.

 

But, I will still give you the best advice on this topic that you will ever get.

 

Always (and I mean always) side with your wife in front of your childrean.  You need a unified front.  Then, in private try and have a rational discussion with your wife bringing up any rational arguements that the kids may have had.  Then, you both go back to the kids with a unified and well thought out conclusion.

 

We agreed right up front never to disagree in front of them.

 

Rational arguments with teenagers are a novel concept, eh? :lol:
 




#2504599 Is there anything preventing us from being a Super Bowl team?

Posted by Mr. Scot on 22 November 2013 - 11:00 AM

I'm still not ready to buy the Super Bowl hype.

 

Sweep the Saints and I'll be a lot more receptive to the idea.




#2503916 Mrs. Rivera Trolls Pats Fans

Posted by Mr. Scot on 21 November 2013 - 10:05 PM

What's not in the original link is the caption she gave the pic in her tweet.

She said "Someone needs a new commercial" :lol:

https://mobile.twitt...988140417527808


#2503563 Mrs. Rivera Trolls Pats Fans

Posted by Mr. Scot on 21 November 2013 - 07:27 PM

Smack talk from the coach's wife...I've officially seen everything :lol:

All hail Mrs Rivera B)


#2503547 Mrs. Rivera Trolls Pats Fans

Posted by Mr. Scot on 21 November 2013 - 07:13 PM

That's great :lol:


#2503504 Roger Goodell Fires MNF Refs

Posted by Mr. Scot on 21 November 2013 - 06:47 PM

Only you, Alv. Only you :lol:


#2503415 Not one Patriot fan came back?

Posted by Mr. Scot on 21 November 2013 - 05:30 PM

NEWS FLASH: SPORTS NEWS

INDIANAPOLIS- The New England Patriots came from ahead to lose against Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers Monday night in Charlotte NC. The Patriots were predicted to lose, and head coach Bill Belichick did not want to disappoint fans and bookies. "We almost won it. It came down to the wire. We knew we needed a play that would give the Panthers the win..
I had the utmost confidence in Cam Newton and my defense. They got it done," Belichick said at a press conference with game ball and sweatshirt in hand. Sports news outlets also learned that early Tuesday, a confident Belichick felt thirsty in the middle of the night and decided to go for a glass of water several yards away on his dresser but never made it,similiar to Mondays defeat..


:lol:


#2503267 Charles Johnson update

Posted by Mr. Scot on 21 November 2013 - 03:57 PM

Wasn't really expecting him this game anyway.




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