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#2538428 Remember what a sick, disgusting organization this team we are facing is.

Posted by pepaw on 09 December 2013 - 04:32 PM

The only reason the Saints fan base is hated, ridiculed and met with contempt is because a) Saints fans are known as some of the most passionate, intense and deeply loyal fans in the NFL 2) In the past 8 years the Saints have been what the Panthers wish they could be. Super Bowl Champs, consistent playoff team and in the mix every year. The great teams and fan bases are always hated by those that want to be like them. Just like the team the Saints fan base have a lot in common with the Patriots. People always hate a winner. 


I'm getting the impression that your views of the fan base you are a part of are similar to the retarded kid in grade school who thought he was Michael Jordan but no one had the heart to tell him he double dribbled all the time. 


You guys had awful attendance for four decades and put bags over your heads, how does that classify as "passionate and loyal"?  The same could not be said for Detroit and Minnesota who have shown those qualities through some awful decades of football. 


Again, if you would have read the conversation throughout this thread I respected and did not "hate" the Saints pre Gregg Williams.  It was the Bounty Scandal and the following denial that has led them to being the only franchise in the world that I hate. 

#2538109 Remember what a sick, disgusting organization this team we are facing is.

Posted by pepaw on 09 December 2013 - 02:17 PM

I don't care if you hate the Saints, that's fine. The Saints are in the same division. I hate the Falcons, Panthers and Bucs.

The bounty scandal is defended by using logic. You might be blind to see it that way, but I assure you that you have seen zero evidence that points to them using a PAY TO INJURE program. They were given bonuses for plays, distributed by players on the defense. They still had to go out there and make plays, so defining it as cheating is ridiculous. 

Pin point hits from that season if you want, and I can defend them. Ironically the Saints were one of the least penalized teams in the NFL the year they won it all… I guess the refs missed all those dirty plays?

Also, the Saints basically had a season stripped away last year. The punishment is over with and done. 

And I'll say this once again, you can hate the Saints all you want. We are rivals. But, for those bringing Gleason into this, you are a disgusting person. 


If by logic you mean a sickening amount of denial and homerism then yes, I will agree on that. I know where this is going because I have seen a dozen or so of you on this board make the same argument and it is eerily similar as telling a toddler not to play with their own poo. 


I'll only bring up two parts of the scandal because seeing someone try to defend them is usually the most entertaining. 


1.) The Gregg Williams Audio Tape: I'm guessing with the Gregg Williams tape, all of those mentions of money and putting it back in the pot is referring to interceptions, sacks and hard hits? While in the same meeting he talks about rolling ACLs, ankles and hitting Gore in the head.  For my own faith in humanity I really am hoping for something different.


2.) The Give Me My Money Quote:  If you seriously expect me to believe some tech guy from NFL used After Effects to add that quote then I almost feel sorry for you. 


And I don't care if you guys lost a season as your punishment, if someone runs over my dog for animal cruelty and goes to jail for a year I will still hate them afterward.  Just like I always will with your aborted fetus of a franchise. 

#2537966 Remember what a sick, disgusting organization this team we are facing is.

Posted by pepaw on 09 December 2013 - 01:27 PM

Are you idiots really bringing up the eavesdropping crap? They never found anything close to evidence of that. I'd love to see any proof of that. Please post it, if you have any clear evidence of this. You won't be able to find anything. 

The bounty fiasco was a load of poo, and anyone with a brain knows that. They said there were pages and pages of documents, yet it was never shown. They did a pay for play program, not pay to injure. This is common. They were caught, and I think the punishments should be enough for you idiots to shut up about it. 

Also, making fun of a guy with ALS… what a representation of a fan base that is claiming the Saints fans as classless. DO yourself a favor and read up on this guy, see what kind of person he is. I guarantee that Steve is a bigger man and person than any of you are. This is a man that can't even hold his child anymore, a man that is dying. Yet, he does all he can to make a difference for others. It is absolutely disgusting to see anyone make fun of this.

This entire thread is nothing but butthurt, delusional morons. Your team got their ass lit up last night, and it was glorious. Please continue to cry. 


A small minority have taken shots at Gleason.  The same is true with the eavesdropping claim.  The reason your fanbase is hated, ridiculed and met with such contempt on this board is the Bounty Scandal and the overwhelming moronic logic used to defend it or deny its existence.  

#2528017 New Orleans week

Posted by pepaw on 04 December 2013 - 04:47 PM

You made a post which basically had 3 points, raw sewerage including feces is dumped into a public river and flows through the gulf, Time and Leisure voted NO the dirtiest in 2012 and NO only has a single Fortune 500 company, I was factually pointing out, with verifiable links that all three points were factually incorrect, that's all.


Just because there's another poll about being an "elite" travel destination doesn't mean the other survey about New Orleans being dirty doesn't exist. His claim was factually correct. 




And just because it's against the law to dump sewage in a river doesn't mean it never happens.  



#2525835 What Saints Fans are Saying

Posted by pepaw on 03 December 2013 - 12:07 PM

i'm not even slightly surprised. we learned the depth of their stupidity during the bounty scandal, nothing else surprises me at this point.





#2525722 What Saints Fans are Saying

Posted by pepaw on 03 December 2013 - 11:11 AM

They are by far the dumbest fan base in the entire country.  

#2511479 lololololol fans over on saintsreport have picked us to lose every single gam...

Posted by pepaw on 24 November 2013 - 08:31 PM

They'll lose by two possessions in Seattle.

#2486008 Beason Stills Seems Miffed

Posted by pepaw on 13 November 2013 - 06:01 PM

As much as I wish this to be true, he wasn't even on the field for half of those 5 years!


68 games out of 96 is roughly 2/3s which is more than half.  

#2485364 Beason Stills Seems Miffed

Posted by pepaw on 13 November 2013 - 11:42 AM

I can't believe some of you.  He was one of the few bright spots in 5 years of sh1t.  I have nothing but love for him and wish him all the best. 


Posted by pepaw on 10 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

I just sh1t my butt.

#2471732 I left my shart in San Francisco

Posted by pepaw on 07 November 2013 - 10:45 AM

I love the huddle.


#2454491 If the playoffs started today..

Posted by pepaw on 28 October 2013 - 01:33 PM

What's scary is how weak Detroit's upcoming schedule is.

#2359742 Give your honest opinion. Carolina's record this season, post it.

Posted by pepaw on 07 September 2013 - 06:39 PM



Weak O Line, that won't be average until week 8.  Poor offensive coordinator and a Head Coach that can't handle pressure.

#2319599 This is truly THE best Panthers forum

Posted by pepaw on 10 August 2013 - 10:03 PM

There's other boards?


#2275393 Frank Scwhab: Cam Newton’s greatness is being overshadowed by a lot of needle...

Posted by pepaw on 02 July 2013 - 02:00 PM

An objective article on Cam from Yahoo Shutdown Corner. <3


Link Here


Pick up a football preview magazine, or click on a Carolina Panthers team preview online, you're likely to see some variation of the same report on Cam Newton.

Immature. Disappointing second season. Didn't develop as hoped. Needs to turn his career back around this season.


Newton is one of the best players in the NFL, and could be on the verge of a special career. It's just a bit strange that the narrative surrounding him has gone in an entirely different direction.


Was Newton, who had arguably the best rookie season of all time in 2011, bad in 2012? Well, let's compare him to a couple of the NFL's brightest stars and find out:

Player A: 3,869 yards, 19 TD, 12 INT, 57.7 completion percentage, 8.0 yards per attempt, 86.2 rating
Player B: 4,374 yards, 23 TD, 18 INT, 54.1 completion percentage, 7.0 yards per attempt, 76.5 rating


Player A is obviously Newton. Player B is Andrew Luck, who has gotten a lot more pats on the back this offseason than Newton. Luck (who is great is his own right) had 142 more passing attempts, but Newton was much more efficient throwing the ball.


Newton is more than just a passer. So let's take a look at this rushing comparison:

Player A: 127 attempts, 741 yards, eight touchdowns
Player B: 120 attempts, 815 yards, seven touchdowns


Player B might have been a touch better, but it's pretty close. Player A is Cam Newton, Player B is Robert Griffin III. And we all know which of those two is getting more praise this offseason.


So last season Newton threw it better than Luck, was almost as productive running it as Griffin, and we're supposed to believe he took a major step back. Luck and Griffin took their teams to the playoffs, but as we already know, it's foolish to judge a quarterback simply on his record (and, the Panthers weren't that far off anyway, going a terribly unlucky 1-7 in games decided by less than a touchdown).


Does Newton need more work on his accuracy, and overall game? Sure. Here's the list of quarterbacks who needed a good amount of work after two NFL seasons: Every quarterback who has ever played. Newton is 24. He'll get better.


Newton did struggle for a bit last season, but if you think he had a bad 2012 you tuned out after seven Panthers games. Here's what he did his last nine games, and how that prorates out to a 16-game season:

Last nine games: 2,168 yards, 14 TD, 4 INT, 159-for-273 (58.2 percent), 94.7 rating, 76 rushes, 431 rushing yards, 5 rushing TD
Prorated for a full season: 3.854.2 yards, 24.9 TD, 7.1 INT, 135.1 rushes, 766.2 rushing yards, 8.9 rushing TD


That would be a heck of a season, especially for a 23-year-old second-year quarterback. The Panthers were 6-3 in those final nine games, for those interested in such things.


So Newton had what amounts to a seven-game sophomore slump. In the last nine games he had a better quarterback rating than players like Matt Schaub, Tony Romo, Philip Rivers, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning and Matthew Stafford had in 2012. Newton was a better passer over his last nine games than Flacco was last season, and Flacco just got a $120 million extension. And over the season Newton rushed for more touchdowns than Jamaal Charles, C.J. Spiller, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, LeSean McCoy and many, many others.


So, so disappointing.


Instead of the talk focusing on Newton's phenomenal first two seasons, we hear about how he's not a captain yet and how he needs better body language. He seems to rub people the wrong way, going all the way back to the NCAA investigation into his recruitment at Auburn. It's overshadowing his greatness.


The way people view Newton will change, and very soon. He's way too good for everyone to continue to nitpick on things like him smiling too much before games and his touchdowns celebrations. Don't miss out.



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