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In Topic: An inevitably ugly conversation about veterans day that needs to be had

13 November 2014 - 02:12 PM

Its the faux 'appreciation' for the Military and 'all they do' that keeps the country in these warzones in the Middle East and elsewhere. Most people in the Military clean bathrooms all day, and I can say that because I lived it.

Your experience does not equate to everyone's experience. You can say that because it was what YOU saw. You also aren't having into account why things like that have to be done. If every time I heard a specialist, third class, private, or airman cry about this...

Don't try to undervalue what prior do because you got asked to clean a latrine or head, spending upon service. You know there's more to it than that, your just being unnecessarily bitter and childish.

There is nothing admirable about serving in any capacity in todays Military, but the majority of Americans are ignorant to that fact. Our Military has fought for freedom a grand total of 3 times. 1776, 1865, and in the 40's, and even that is questionable. Everything else has been a fought in order to secure profits, or for positioning for geopolitical reasons.

I did however enjoy those free chicken tenders the other day.

Again, your opinion. I am not going to judge your service or venture to for on how long you served. Your view is very narrow minded and self centered. That's it.

Another note,

I have seen people on here rent and it being a volunteer service as if it somehow takes away from their service. But at the end of the day, regardless of they reasoning they decided to join a force that can be called upon at any time to defend or homeland from enemies both foreign and domestic. And that's a fact. Just because you don't agree with what goes on in Iraq or Afghanistan doesn't somehow diminish service. They still volunteered for whatever and a lot of people did it honorably. Yes we have things like sexual assault that go on in or services. Guys what, we're a small cross section of our entire society. That small percentage of idiots, doesn't somehow overshadow the majority or devalue veterans day at all.

Days like memorial day and veterans day hold a special place in my heart. It reminds me of people who never came home and their families, their children who will grow up without their father. That is sacrifice. Not necessarily agreeing with what you do but, just doing your job anyway so that your friends and teammates come home safe. Because it damn sure sticks when they don't.

In Topic: An inevitably ugly conversation about veterans day that needs to be had

13 November 2014 - 08:25 AM

Thanks for sharing.

My neighbor was in the military brief and never saw action. He lets everyone know he was a marine, his car is full of bumper stickers and he really tries to act like a tough sob. There's more annoying poo but I'll leave it at that. Anyways, if I were a marine and actually saw action and knew this guy he'd piss me off.

You don't have to "see action" to be proud of something you did. Your qualifying statement is " if I we a marine. " you're not, he has one up on you there. He can put whatever he wants on his car. It's not stolen valor. He earned that by serving.

Let me provide you with another example. I have been to some really dark places on this planet and have had to speak to some really disturbing people. Somehow, some way I have managed to avoid running over a VOIED, having my convoy penetrated by a threat, being shot at, have someone attempt to scuttle their vessel, or even have to take a life because the situation called for deadly force. But, I am still damn proud of all my experiences.

In Topic: An inevitably ugly conversation about veterans day that needs to be had

12 November 2014 - 10:42 PM

Stupid article, stupid argument. Yes, not everyone serves with honor and deserves to be labeled a hero. But, an article that glorifies Pvt. Manning while taking about the evils of worshipping military culture is ridiculous.

In Topic: Back to Iraq

08 November 2014 - 01:54 PM

Eh anyone with a brain could have seen this coming years ago.

In Topic: islamophobia continues its ironic creep and tea party conservatives continue...

05 November 2014 - 10:06 PM

The US Army puts fear into people, the Israeli army puts fear into people, the South African police put fear into people. Try looking at it from the other side and you'll realise that the fear exists on both sides and people make stupid, life ending decisions as a result. In the Western world our news shows us the worst of a certain part of the world, convinces us it could be coming our way and we make decisions on the back of "x politician said he'd make the problem of ISIS go away" or "B weapons manufacturer will use $500b to make a weapon that make Hamas behave."

Who wins when people live in fear? The politician who can convince people the most that he will remove that fear and the company that makes the products to make you feel safer.

Who loses? The kid who can't get an up to date science book because you spent 4000x the school's annual budget on weapon development.

This is what I don't get about a lot of the Muslim world. They never stand up and take accountability that a lot of their problems are self inflicted. Yeah we can go and talk about Britain or Israel. But realistically, this part of the world would still be in shambles. Tribalism rules all. Throw a very powerful tool like religion in to of that kind of culture and is dangerous.

You mention the U.S. Army and it makes me laugh. We at least hold uniformed personnel accountable on the battlefield for non humane actions. Remember the Maines that urinated on dead Taliban? Abu Gharaib? They all got in trouble. These guys that behead people on the battlefield, rape women, execute non combatants, etc. What happens to them?

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