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#2915881 Is Mike Tolbert really a franchise FB?

Posted by Verge on 30 August 2014 - 06:00 AM

I am just looking at some old games ( 2013). Looking at him, his is still making and struggling with the same issues. I know I shouldn't, but I always compare every FB to Mike Alstott and Peyton Hillis, they hardly get hit behind the line. This is not because their O-lines are that great, but because they feel when pressure is near. Mike is still getting hit behind the line when sometimes he can avoid. It is still frustrating to see him as a runner. He is an extremely inconsistent and streaky. His mechanics are poor with him running off his back foot and unbalanced causing hime to fall on his fat ass. I guess is this why they drafted the 6'5'' Tra T. I tend to wonder if the front office is sold on him as the future , because Im not. This has to be his make or break year. Love Mike as a person, the best thing that could happen to the Charlotte area, but not my choice for the future. I really like John Connor , I see the Jets going somewhere with him. Thanks for your views and replies.

#2915853 Is Cam Newton Really A Franchise QB

Posted by Verge on 30 August 2014 - 03:25 AM

4 or 5 tops


When a qb swings wins in such a way, that is how you know he is a franchise qb. 



Look at the likes of;


Ryan Fitzpatrick

Matt Schaub

Colin Kaepernick 

Geno Smith

Matt Cassel 

Josh McCown

Sam Bradford


These qbs are only going to swing the win and loss category if they were lost by 1-3 games.


But if you look at;


Peyton Manning

Cam Newton

Tom Brady

Philip Rivers

Tony Romo

Ben Roethlisberger

Drew Brees

Andrew Luck



I think it is safe to say each of these qbs swings games by 7-10 games. If any of those above qbs went down, their club is not going to win more than five games, and that to me is a significant sign of a franchise qb.

#2915845 Is Cam Newton Really A Franchise QB

Posted by Verge on 30 August 2014 - 03:07 AM

How many wins would we get this year if he went down?

#2901981 Most Overrated Game of All-Time

Posted by Verge on 22 August 2014 - 03:57 AM

The Assassin Creed series is pretty damn repetitive at this point.

#2899168 Byron Bell starting is a "fait accompli"

Posted by Verge on 19 August 2014 - 09:40 PM

Bell has played well in the pre-season, I am not worried.

#2885700 Huddle Pick & Choose: Who Produces More in 2014?

Posted by Verge on 10 August 2014 - 10:50 PM

Of the pairs of players below, which player will do you believe will produce more (statistically) during the 2014 season? Try to take in account all stats pertaining to their positional group and just generally average them off to who is more "productive by season's end". My choices are in bold.



Jonathan Stewart vs. DeAngelo Williams


Kelvin Benjamin vs. Greg Olsen


Ed Dickson vs. Brandon Williams


Mike Tolbert vs. Cam Newton (on the ground/rushing)


Charles Johnson vs. Greg Hardy


Dwan Edwards vs. Kawann Short


AJ Klein vs. Chase Blackburn


Melvin White vs. Bene Benwikere






Hardy (In terms of sacks, I think CJ will be the better overall DE)




#2866378 Blue Chips

Posted by Verge on 27 July 2014 - 11:27 AM

49ers: Kaep, Staley, Iupati, A. Davis, V. Davis, Boone, Gore, Willis, Bowman, Aldon, J. Smith, Miller, Boldin, and Crabtree.

Not sure how you only got 7.


Kaep is not a top 10 QB

A.Davis is not a top 10 Tackle

Bruce Miller is a FB

Crabtree and Boldin do not sniff the jock of a top 10 WR


So. No.

#2866218 Blue Chips

Posted by Verge on 27 July 2014 - 05:24 AM

Kalil for sure

As good as TD is I don't think he's a top 10 LB. There are some really good LBs in the league.

Sent from my iPhone

We all agreed he is a top 10 OLB

#2866215 Blue Chips

Posted by Verge on 27 July 2014 - 05:15 AM

What criteria were you using and if we have so many do you mind naming them and their respective position?



Essentially, we all named players on the roster, and if the majority of us agreed that that player could legitimately be argued as top 10 at their position, we put them on the list. It was two Broncos fans, a Falcons fan, Steelers fan, Raiders fan, and myself. So it made it interesting.


As far as our blue chips go;

Cam Newton

Deangelo WIlliams (This one was the hardest to argue honestly, but we eventually agreed)

Ryan Kalil

Greg Olsen

Greg Hardy

Charles Johnson

Star Lotuleilei

Thomas Davis

Luke Kuechly 

#2866212 Blue Chips

Posted by Verge on 27 July 2014 - 05:07 AM

I was having a conversation with some friends, and we were debating the "blue chip players" on each team, and were attempting to use that to predict how well they would do next season. We went through each teams and counted up how many players on that team could be legitimately argued for top 10 at their respective positions. The numbers might surprise you.
Nine blue chip players:
Eight blue chip players:
Seven blue chip players:
Browns (!)
Six blue chip players:
Five blue chip players:
Four blue chip players:
Three blue chip players:
Every other team ended up with two or less.
Of course, as you all know, stars can rise any day and become a blue chip player. Also, qb play can make a huge difference on if your blue chips count, but it is an interesting topic none the less.

#2853205 Graham signs long term deal

Posted by Verge on 15 July 2014 - 11:08 PM

The Saints will still be good 5 years from now guys.

#2852532 Top notch new Gatorade bottles

Posted by Verge on 15 July 2014 - 07:57 PM

Whoever ships me one to CO gets reimbursed and nudes of gay uncle.


#2761253 Person picks Adams WR

Posted by Verge on 04 May 2014 - 04:31 PM

If M.Lee is there, he is the pick.

#2709664 Panthers interested in DeSean Jackson for the right price...

Posted by Verge on 20 March 2014 - 09:12 PM

Pie me if you would give up a 1st, 2nd, and 7th round draft picks for AJ Green


Press the "like" button if you would save this small white baby.

#2696849 The last five super bowl winners

Posted by Verge on 14 March 2014 - 10:48 PM

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