I've enjoyed our debate TRG. You seem like a good reasonable man. None of what I have to say is directed towards anyone that just wants to play ball.
Gay people deserve the same rights, and they're getting them. We could have a toast to that. I'm not trying to offend anyone by categorizing them as a stereo type.
I'm just saying that if there is one thing on this planet that people actually own it's their bodies, and for most they choose to keep it sacred for those who they want to see it.
Showers are a necessity, but individuals shouldn't feel pressure to share it with anyone if they feel there's even a possibility of being objectified. This goes for men and women.
So how do we gracefully navigate these waters so where everyone is happy?
Equality isn't about being overt and infringing others ideals whether they're the same or not. It's not about proving a point to someone that doesn't agree with you. It's about equal treatment....which I believe in, and I think gays are finally starting to get. Gay men are equal to any other man....they're just different in what they want.
Funny ... seems you're changing your tune, aren't you? I mean, you said it wasn't a big deal for straight women to shower with lesbians.
When is the last time you saw a heterosexual player hold a news conference to tell everyone he is heterosexual?
They don't have to ... they are able to exhibit their heterosexual "lifestyle" through their everyday lives. Being seen out and about with their women, holding hands, kissing, etc. The same cannot be true of a homosexual player who isn't "out."
LP did you ever play high school or college football or basketball on a men's team?
I'm absolutely certain there were lesbians in my junior high and high school gym classes, therefore in the locker room when I was changing my clothes and ... oh, my gosh ... NAKED in front of them. Never worried me at all. Didn't fear they would turn me into a lesbian. Never worried that they were "eye fugging me" (whatever that is). Never intimidated me at all.
It's so sad that there are so many insecure, homophobic men out there, and on this board.