one nfl mouth talking about another? pretty funny.
I don't think there is a possibility for any of these guys to get to where they are mentally or physically without having an inflated self-image. It's part of the psyche. These are not type-A guys. By the time they get NFL jerseys and then earn a start... over several years these are type-AAAAA people.
Not only do they believe they are the biggest guy in the room they know they have to believe it or it simply won't be true. diva is technically an accurate description if you compare them to you and I, but you have to compare these guys to their peers only.
If Smith is a diva what is TO? I am not going to defend the guy because he is a hot head and on the verge of explosion. However that fault is part of his success on the field too. A big part.
TO is a poor measure. He is the uber diva and not a representation of your standard diva WR.
You won't see Megatron behaving like Smitty has....Megatron isn't a diva. Smitty is in the diva class....
The entire Panthers organization has always acknowledged Steve was Steve and required his own unique handling.
You do understand the only reason that he is starting in the middle in OTAs is because Beason is not active yet? Also it has been said that he would be on the outside rotating with Davis.
It has also been said Beason will be asked to play OLB some as well......despite starting off at MLB. It has also been said Luke will will learn and play both....just like Beason.
Luke is learning both for 2 reasons. 1. He is the ideal NFL MLB. 2. Beason's real status for this year is unknown. They aren't going to have Luke play the next 5 years at OLB if he becomes a better MLB option than Beason.
So now, instead of telling you why Wes Welker isn't elite..you want me to name a better #2 WR? Lol Just accept my opinion and move on. Like I've already said..this is all opinionated in the first place.
ANY...head coach in this league would rather have Smitty than Wes. Bank on it.
All I have asked is for you to tell me what in your opinion makes a player elite..... and you can't.
I asked for you to name a player simply bc I was going to point out you can't name a more productive player. Production is all that really matters.
Welker doesnt have to have the skill set of an Andre Johnson and play a traditional #1 to be elite.....just like a QB doesn't have to be a pure passer or a RB just a rusher
Well, I realize it isn't tough math..but I'd like to see the information your spouting off with. Eh, fug it..I could care less anymore. Smith is a better WR all around. Hell, if Smith would have had Brady throwing to him (or even Cassell..during the Teste, Moore, Clausen days) I think he'd almost be a lock for HOF. To be honest man, you're just rehashing everything you've already said..which makes me think you've ran out of real estate on this topic. Welker is NOT an elite WR, but rather a good one.
You have the drop numbers.
Every sport website has there receptions over the last two years.
What other info do you need?
Again, what makes someone elite? Name a 2 WRs not named Smith, Megatron, Fitz, or Andre.....better.
Can't get your nose out of his jock eh? I think you're wrong about Smith dropping more passes per attempt. Either way, Smitty>Welker. And that's with homerism aside. Any analyst that knows that their talking about would tell you the same as well. Welker doesn't fumble because he doesn't fight for yards. He takes what is there and goes down.
Wes Welker ladies and gentlemen, possibly one of the greatest #2 WR's ever. Lol
Well it isn't tough math....but Smith averages more frequent drops when compared to his receptions.
And Smitty is > than Welker in this offense or if asked to take on the role of a traditional #1.
Welker is a different WR. Asked to do different things. He is arguably the greatest slot man in NFL history.
Welker and Smith are different and play the game different.....you are too focused on why Welker isn't like Smith. Like I pointed out....look at Welkers touches and lack of fumbles compared to Smith....Smith needs to go down often when he doesn't.
Welker is an elite WR. Patriots also went from being a running/defensive to a uber passing team when BB realized what Welker allowed Brady to do.