Guess we could say the same thing about the autopsy reports and charts too. Show us the body then.
See...both statements are ridiculous.
LOL, no... because we already saw his dead body laying in the street like a dog that had just been put down, before they unceremoniously loaded him up into an SUV - NOT an ambulance or a coroner's vehicle - a police SUV. Pretty sure he died the way everyone has said he did.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, his autopsy has already been reviewed by other independent doctors, on behalf of the family (I believe his name was Dr.Badsen).
Additionally, the coroner isn't employed by the Ferguson PD, and wouldn't really have a reason to lean one way or another with Brown's autopsy. Anyone associated with the "officer" who murdered him on the other hand...
You honestly can't tell me with a straight face after reading his manifesto that he wasn't mentally insane and didn't have a god complex upon other issues.
He has aspergers on top of him not taking his meds.
Please tell me how in these past mass shooting have white kids been getting a pass as mental illness that isn't actually there?
There is a reason that their being attributed to mental illness.
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The point is, white kids are given a pass for killing people, as though it wasn't their fault. They were victims themselves of circumstance, i.e., mental illness. When a black person is killed due to gun violence, it was because they had it coming to them, i.e., they were gang members, they were criminals, they were bound to go bad anyway, they antagonized the police. Simply put, if you're black, you never get the benefit of the doubt, nor do you get excuses made up for you.
To those using "gang violence" and lifestyles as some sort of defense for minorities ultimately getting what's coming to them in your view... I like how white kids who generally come from solid, functional family backgrounds are given a pass after they commit mass killings by being allowed the dismissive "mental illness" excuse... but, black kids aren't given any sort of excuse despite generally coming from horrible socioeconomic conditions. You mean to tell me if you grow up constantly placed at a disadvantage, constantly being profiled, constantly being bombarded with reminders and images of what society thinks of you (as though you are less than everyone else), as well as constantly being reminded that no matter what you do, you'll always be capped out at a certain point because of where you came from - THAT COULDN'T CONCEIVABLY CAUSE ONE TO SNAP? THAT WOULDN'T CAUSE ONE TO NOT GIVE A SH*T? THAT WOULDN'T CAUSE ONE TO KILL SOMEONE ELSE IF IT PLACED THEM IN A BETTER POSITION? Those are all rhetorical questions. The mindset that lends itself to gang culture isn't exactly stable either, and for good reason. But, nope... when it's black people, they are wild animals, naturally predisposed to killing and other criminal activity... Right? And that's exactly my point. When that is the image you are constantly boxed into by society, the machine just feeds itself in a never ending perpetual cycle.
And bringing up gang violence as a talking point in this case is honestly a disservice to the real issues at hand anyway. White people bringing up Chicago and black on black crime is simply a way to take the focus away from the murder of an innocent, unarmed black teen at the hands of a racist, egotistical, asshole that used his badge as leverage. Get off of it.
Anytime a white guy shoots a black guy the white guy is automatically a "racist" and Al Sharpton & co. show up. How many unarmed black guys are shot in Chicago a day? It's not that I don't think the white guy is at fault, it's just how everything is turned into racism and blacks who aren't even involved demand sympathy. I know several people who live for cases like this just so they can go around talking and arguing about it. It's not just that side of racism... KKK riots in 2014? Just makes me sick.
So, are you aware of something called slavery, or perhaps, the civil rights era?
Agreed. We don't have to agree on everything. And I let things get too personal. Sorry about that, brother.
But seriously, I think your manager probably suspected you of something. Don't know what. Maybe some money disappeared from the safe, maybe some product went missing, maybe someone took his Oikos Greek yogurt from the fridge. I don't know. But you have got to suspect the cops were following up on something that transpired from that convo. In any case, I'd get the hell out of there. That manager sounds like a giant Richard.
And yeah, sometimes cops bend the rules a little as far as reasons for pulling someone over. But there's good an bad for that. With the way people are entitled to their property and privacy these days, I honestly think cops have to bend the rules a little in order to do anything.
Example, I once was in a car with a really drunk driver. My buddy, who would not allow anyone to take his keys (in hindsight, I should have given him a shot in the jaw, took his keys and just put him in the back seat. But I was 22, and didn't know better). Anyway, the cops pulled us over. He was keeping the car pretty straight, but they pulled him over on suspicion because he was driving under the speed limit. Cops arrested him, took him in, and he blew a 1.8. Lawyer ended up getting him off because "driving too slow" was not a valid reason for pulling him over in the first place. So he got off scott free.
But we were heading to I-495 when we got pulled over. If his drunk ass had been driving, we'd probably all be dead. So the cops bent the rules to be sure, but they saved our lives.
Again, when a story likes this breaks, all you ever usually hear is, "the cops pulled an unarmed kid over for an invalid reason. Fuggin' pigs!"
Agree we have had different experiences that have definitely shaped our opinions.
But I implore you, as a fellow huddler, regardless of where we fall on this issue. When it comes to cops, always follow the golden rule. Treat them as you would like to be treated. Will some be a dick to you anyway? Absolutely. But going in expecting the cop to be crooked, a bully, out to get you is only going to translate to how you treat them. And when you piss off a cop, it doesn't work out for anybody.
No prob, Cap. I made it personal with my own story, emotions, etc. So, that's on me.
As far as dealing with them, I have always been polite and respectful. But, in general, I just would rather avoid ever even crossing paths with most officers because of my experiences.
If someone did that to me... I'd say I need his supperior phone number for wasting my time and tax payers money. Also, do not let them search ur car. Cops can get in touble for using "smell like alcohol or pot" to search vehicle. If they do that and do not find anything, I'd report this superrior for harassment. If they do it again, I'd get a lawyer and sue.
Trust me.... if you play by the rules, you'll win.
I am aware of our rights Arsen, but again... at 3am in the middle of nowhere? Just like the kid thst got shot in this case, what happens if I don't do what they say? Do I get pulled out of my car and smothered while being placed in a chokehold? Do I get beaten to a pulp? Do I get shot?
My goal in any situation is to live... i don't care if I know my rights are being violated - I'm not telling an officer "no" about anything at night with no one else around. And I certainly won't ask for a name or badge number. In the situation I described, they were challenging me to get out of pocket... if I did, they could've done whatever they wanted and the official story would've been whatever they said.
Anytime you stand up to an officer that is in the wrong you're at risk to be killed.
Talk to me when you get followed from your parking lot leaving work, after the offending officer sat outside talking to your manager and conveniently ends their conversation when yours ends with friends and you get in your car... you are then pulled over and accused of smelling like alcohol despite never having a sip of it in your life, get asked to step out of the car, then searched twice, asked to sit in a cruiser, take a breathalyzer, AND have your car searched - while four other units sit, watch, and laugh all while asking you in a snarky tone "So... how is your night going?" This at 3am in the middle of nowhere.
That's just one personal example of many. And then naive people wonder why many don't trust police.
And I mean it. Motherf'ers ain't nothing but kids that were bullied and seek to gain power so they can be the aggressor in adulthood.
If I could place a number on it, I'd say I have interacted with police at least ten times in my life. Out of that ten, only about three times did a police officer do his job objectively and with the purpose of "serving and protecting." They have my respect. But the vast majority can go to hell - like these pigs in Ferguson.
They put on a badge and use it as a shield to cover their bigoted ways.
I've been harrassed by cops when I didn't deserve it and I've been intentionally neglected by cops when I needed their help. I empathize with the plight of the people. Those cops are poo.
My first game experience was as an 11 or 12 year old. Our inaugural season... my uncle took me to see us take on the Bucs in Clemson at Death Valley. I remember driving in thinking how awesome all the tiger paws covering the campus roads were. We got there, he met with some friends and we tossed a football around before the game. I remember his friends had a really hot, slightly older daughter, and she seemed to take a liking to me, at least that's how it played out in my head, lol.
Gametime, and we were sitting a few rowsdown from the very top of the stadium, lol... needless to say, the view wasn't all that great, but I LOVED IT. I still had the hope that we would win this game and go on an unprecedented, unexpected winning streak and go on to win the Superbowl in our first season, lol. I was 12 - ANYTHING WAS POSSIBLE. I remember looking for specific guys the entire game. I locked in on Tyrone Poole as soon as we drafted him because of his size. I loved him. I was always the smallest kid in my class to that point (didn't really hit a growth spurt until the summer before high school). I remember I spotted him and would watch even as he walked to the sidelines thinking, "if he can do it, I can eventually do it." I watched Sam Mills and Lamar Lathon. I had some Lathon cards from when he was with the Oilers, and even then, I remember being enamored with his athleticism and size combo, unfortunately, he was injured for a good part of his career with us and never fully realized his potential. I also focused on Brett Maxie, as I loved his style of play AND he was on the cover of my program for the game that day, which I still have.
I also focused on Mark Carrier on offense. I was still hoping Kerry Collins would be the MAN, but I don't think he was starting yet, at this point. My real focus offensively was on running back. As that was my favorite position at the time and what I excelled at... and it just so happens, our man at the time, Derrick Moore, had broke off a huge run that day and the whole stadium was electrified as he got behind the defense. It was amazing. We felt like we had something and as a 12 year old, I thought he could become our Barry Sanders (as IIRC, he was Barry's backup when we acquired him). I also vividly remember Kasay hitting the upright on an extra point... his kick was like a sonic boom, felt and heard around the stadium, and when that ball hit the post the goal shook the earth and continued to shake for minutes after he hit it, lol. I was thinking, "THAT is a powerful kick."
I felt like it was heaven at the time. We lost, but we played great and I was proud as I left. I watched the players walk through the tunnel and everyone still cheered because of their valiant effort. We finally had something to call our own.
And then we left, and I remember we sat in traffic FOREVER, lol. Good times.