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#3106725 12-year-old in Cleveland with a BB gun shot by cop

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on Yesterday, 12:56 PM

The video shows the boy walking and pointing the gun in different directions before entering a gazebo.

A patrol car with two officers pulls up to the gazebo. The first to get out, identified by a city official as Timothy Loehmann, 26, shoots almost immediately.

In a news conference broadcast by NBC, Cleveland Police Deputy Chief Ed Tomba said the time between the car pulling up and Rice being shot was 1.5 to 2 seconds.

There is no audio on the video, but the officers said they told Rice to raise his hands three times before he was shot, police said. He died on Sunday.

Asked why the car pulled up so close, Tomba said "That's a legitimate question," which is part of the investigation.

In a statement about the video, Rice's family said, "It is our belief that this situation could have been avoided and that Tamir should still be here with us." The family asked the community to remain calm and keep protests peaceful.

Cleveland police said Loehmann and the second officer, Frank Garmback, 46, were both on leave. A union representative said the officer who shot Rice had been on the force for under a year.



#3106264 So who do all of you nonbelievers say thanks to..

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 26 November 2014 - 08:53 PM

I am thankful for music, comedy and animated turkeys...

#3106040 12-year-old in Cleveland with a BB gun shot by cop

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 26 November 2014 - 04:28 PM

I'm more angry at the parents than the cop. Where the fug are his parents? Why is a child walking around alone and unsupervised? Why did he have a gun, real or not?

The job police have is not an easy one and there are moments where split second decision making is required.

In this case, by the time police arrived on the scene it appears there was no one whose life was immediately imperiled by this kid. Had the situation been different, the tactics they used might have been better justified.

Yes, definitely parents are responsible for teaching their children that brandishing a toy gun in public is stupid and dangerous. This tragic outcome is hardly surprising and hopefully the parents recognize their culpability.

Taking all these points into consideration, there is still an opportunity to review police procedures and try to improve tactics to mitigate the likelihood of a similarly tragic outcome in the future.

#3106006 12-year-old in Cleveland with a BB gun shot by cop

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 26 November 2014 - 03:38 PM

Video released.

Kid was walking around pointing the gun at people. Cop car comes flying in and he pulls it out. Cop immediately open fire.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Kids by their nature tend to do stupid things, that is why they are not permitted the rights of an adult.

Didn't see any other people in the immediate area that were potentially endangered by this child's activity at the time of the officers' arrival on scene.

Is this yet another case where a more cautious approach by police may have resulted in a better outcome? Would this child still be alive to learn a lesson from his childish behavior?

Police driving right up to the suspect and placing themselves in harms way escalated the likelihood of a violent outcome. Why not employ a containment strategy and attempt to defuse the situation instead?

What every happened to protect and serve?

#3105393 12-year-old in Cleveland with a BB gun shot by cop

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 26 November 2014 - 02:24 AM

Name one incident where a cop shot someone for going for a drivers license....didn't think so, your a ill informed douche.

White S.C. Cop Fired, Charged After Shooting Unarmed Black Man

On Sept. 4, Groubert stopped 35-year-old Levar Edward Jones for a seatbelt violation in the parking lot of a gas station/convenience store in Columbia. On dash-cam video from Groubert’s cruiser, Jones is seen getting out of his car, seemingly surprised to see the officer pull in behind him.

“Can I see your license, please?” Groubert asked. When Jones reached into his car to retrieve his license, Groubert started shouting for Jones to get out of the car and drew his weapon. As Jones obeyed and leaned back out of his car, Groubert started shooting. At least four rounds were fired, with one hitting Jones in the hip.

Jones put his hands in the air and fell to the ground, as Groubert ordered him to get down and put his hands behind his back.

“I just got my license, you said get my license,” Jones can be heard saying. “I grabbed my license, right here. That’s my license, right there.”  http://www.diversity...rmed-black-man/

#3105381 Cops, Justice, Fairness

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 26 November 2014 - 01:41 AM

One-Percent Jokes and Plutocrats in Drag: What I Saw When I Crashed a Wall Street Secret Society

“Give me that or I’ll fuging break it!” Novogratz yelled, grabbing for my phone, which was filled with damning evidence. His eyes were bloodshot, and his neck veins were bulging. The song onstage was now over, and a number of prominent Kappas had rushed over to our table. Before the situation could escalate dangerously, a bond investor and former Grand Swipe named Alexandra Lebenthal stepped in between us. Wilbur Ross quickly followed, and the two of them led me out into the lobby, past a throng of Wall Street tycoons, some of whom seemed to be hyperventilating.

Once we made it to the lobby, Ross and Lebenthal reassured me that what I’d just seen wasn’t really a group of wealthy and powerful financiers making homophobic jokes, making light of the financial crisis, and bragging about their business conquests at Main Street’s expense. No, it was just a group of friends who came together to roast each other in a benign and self-deprecating manner. Nothing to see here.

But the extent of their worry wasn’t made clear until Ross offered himself up as a source for future stories in exchange for my cooperation.

“I’ll pick up the phone anytime, get you any help you need,” he said.

“Yeah, the people in this group could be very helpful,” Lebenthal chimed in. “If you could just keep their privacy in mind.”

I wasn’t going to be bribed off my story, but I understood their panic. Here, after all, was a group that included many of the executives whose firms had collectively wrecked the global economy in 2008 and 2009. And they were laughing off the entire disaster in private, as if it were a long-forgotten lark. (Or worse, sing about it — one of the last skits of the night was a self-congratulatory parody of ABBA’s “Dancing Queen,” called “Bailout King.”) These were activities that amounted to a gigantic middle finger to Main Street and that, if made public, could end careers and damage very public reputations.

After several more minutes spent trying to do damage control, Ross and Lebenthal escorted me out of the St. Regis.


#3105379 Cops, Justice, Fairness

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 26 November 2014 - 01:29 AM

The media will do everything it can from keeping races unified. It's bad for business.

To be more precise it is bad for politics which is bad for business.

If the masses in this country could ever get passed their biases of one another the 1% that are really bending them over wouldn't stand a chance.

Unfortunately for the great unwashed masses or fortunately if you are part of the 1%, that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.

#3105045 Some visual proof of how incompetent Carolina's coaching staff truly is.

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 06:05 PM

Every time the Panthers take the field is enough visual proof for me of how incompetent Carolina's coaching staff truly is.

#3105019 Will the steelers beat the saints?

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 05:40 PM

I get being a fan. I do. I love the Panthers with every fiber of my fandom. But, good god we're fuging terrible. Rivera is terrible. Shula is terrible. Our WRs outside of KB are fuging garbage.

It's okay to admit we suck horse balls. Because we do. I mean, we're one McCown meltdown and a missed Nugent chip shot away from being 2-9.

Misery loves company and the Panthers have lots of company in the NFC South.

This season has turned into a race to the bottom for these four teams.

Can't ever remember a division better adept at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

#3104904 Ferguson Decision

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 03:56 PM

Hey....don't bring me into this dumpster fire of an arguement.
I am waiting to see and hear the actual evidence that is released before saying anything.
I have no idea what really happened....I can only believe the 12 people who spent 70 hours pouring over testimony and evidence probably got this right.

How crazy has this thread become?

MadHatter has staked out a position of moderation, a voice of reason.

#3104756 Ferguson Decision

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 01:24 PM

"...in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."

—Benjamin Franklin, in a letter to Jean-Baptiste Leroy, 1789


With deepest respect to old Ben, I would like to add a third certainty, human stupidity.  Without it, this incident and most other tragedies in our world would not be possible.  

#3104727 Ferguson Decision

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 01:03 PM

Black people kill black people 93% of the time from a quick google search.
So if anything white people are more often the victim of violent crimes by other races. Yet the news certainly doesn't support that narrative.
Each case is entirely different. There was a case in the news where a latino officer beat to death a white homeless man. He was prosecuted. A lot of times in these cases with black victims there just isn't anything happening outside the law.

Over 80% of Caucasian deaths in this country are at the hands of other Caucasians. The statistic likely indicates humans more often than not kill those they interact with the most. Hardly surprising is it?

#3104318 Ravens in last place AFC North

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 01:24 AM

In light of the fact that Baltimore has defeated every team in our division this season, they are clearly most deserving of the title, NFC South Champions.

#3104297 Ferguson Decision

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 01:03 AM

why don't you grow a set of balls and not just store them under your lips and quote me so I see your reply?

And if you're going to open your mouth without something going in it, make sure you actually say something besides just a pot shot.
Otherwise you waste my time and just give me a chance to practice insults. Its OK, though, its easy practice.


ah, the typical liberal bullshit you folks like to spread. I don't give a crap who was what color and what they did. If you attack a cop and get shot you asked for it. Even that Darwin award 12 yr old in Cleveland who got killed pulling amtoy gun on a cop. The kid got what he deserved for being a F'N moron the likes of this thread relates to...

Moral of the story, life sucks get over it. If I am a black dude and pulled mover I do the same thing I do, maybe more, already. Listen carefully, speak respectfully. And realize that I should respect who I am speaking to... Of course, I do this to everyone because I was raised with manners and taught to respect people.


about five to six times. It tickles my fancy.

It does make sense. See if you're fellating another man, well, his balls are on your chin.

Anyway, talk about the topic or don't talk at all.


Is it too much to expect you to follow your own advice or is it only applicable to strangers on the internet?

#3104279 Pie for all

Posted by NanuqoftheNorth on 25 November 2014 - 12:41 AM

Pleasantly surprised at how well this week in football turned out for the Panthers.

If anyone could have found a way to turn a bye week into a loss, this coaching staff would be it.

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