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#2943945 So Obama is Pitching a New War Tonight?

Posted by venom on 11 September 2014 - 03:40 PM

All war does is create more war and create more enemies. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.




#2942768 So Obama is Pitching a New War Tonight?

Posted by venom on 11 September 2014 - 12:46 AM

So some of you are saying we should do nothing and watch ISIS attack us?

 

Sheeple Status

 

ISIS is never going to attack us, and if they do it's because we let them. Don't fall for the fear mongering propaganda. The media/govt wants everyone thinking they're gonna come over here and chop every one of our heads off, so we can justify a continued military presence over there. Be careful what you refer to as sheeple status.




#2942484 So Obama is Pitching a New War Tonight?

Posted by venom on 10 September 2014 - 10:43 PM

For the love of god can we please just have one day where we're not militarily controlling/manipulating sh*t in other countries.




#2940952 So Obama is Pitching a New War Tonight?

Posted by venom on 10 September 2014 - 11:51 AM

whatever venom obama would NEVER do that stuff 

 

It's not even really Obama, he's just the game show host.




#2940929 So Obama is Pitching a New War Tonight?

Posted by venom on 10 September 2014 - 11:36 AM

Must be nice for the military industrial complex to have all this war to profit from due to all these boogeyman groups we create, fund, and arm to the teeth.




#2920383 The Covert Origins of ISIS

Posted by venom on 01 September 2014 - 10:10 PM

I appreciate that.  This ISIS issue is tough because there are some many ways to perceive it.  It's tough to know which way is up and down with it.  It's highly subjective.  It could very well be all a sham to wag the dog, but if it isn't.....

 

Agreed and you're welcome. If only the US government hadn't cried wolf so many times in the past.




#2920361 The Covert Origins of ISIS

Posted by venom on 01 September 2014 - 09:55 PM

There's a difference between living in fear and assessing a viable threat.  Living in fear paints a context of borderline illogical paranoia.  A viable threat is quite the opposite.

 

The problem with the media is the line is skewed so that viable threats are seen as controlling though fear and controlling through fear is seen as a viable threat.  This is the conundrum of our times. 

 

I think it's more illogical and paranoid to think everything about the Isis situation is a lie.  Especially when you have a network like MSNBC even questioning the lack of action.

 

Either way...like it or not the U.S does have a responsibility to the rest of the world, because the U.S population is made up of people from the rest of the world.

 

I understand the distrust in government, because I fight internally with the same skepticism myself. 

 

Ultimately however,  I don't think we can allow a genocide to take place because we've convinced ourselves it''s all an elaborate lie.

 

I think through the President's actions the U.S has been more reserved and luke-warm about jumping into another situation then ever before. Which can be seen as good, other then the fact it's being used against us.  I'm neutral on Obama personally.  I think he has good characteristics and bad ones.  To his credit he got us out of Iraq to begin with.  To his discredit he's paralyzed to act because he doesn't want to be seen as George W.,,,,  which is exactly why Isis is growing and is exactly where are weakness resides. 

 

Oppositional forces have the ability to use the skepticism of U.S citizens and the political pressure it provides against us.   Like I said in an earlier thread.  This is exactly what happened after WW1 and why fascist regimes were able to rise to power.

 

I don't necessarily agree with all this, but you make some very well-thought, interesting points.
 




#2919879 The Covert Origins of ISIS

Posted by venom on 01 September 2014 - 03:49 PM



Ecu88 posted this in the James Foley thread, but I decided it needed it's own. Good find bud.




#2919749 Apocalypse Africa: Made in America

Posted by venom on 01 September 2014 - 02:42 PM

Typical




#2910492 CDC Whistleblower Claims Studies Disproving Link Between Vaccines and Autism...

Posted by venom on 26 August 2014 - 02:41 PM

The problem I have with vaccines is they're made by Big Pharma, an industry we know that cannot be trusted.




#2909156 Universal "Guns Aren't the Issue" Playbook

Posted by venom on 25 August 2014 - 03:58 PM

I don't want that, but I'm afraid it has already happened.   Before we rise up, we'd have to stop arguing over things like same sex marriage, weed legalization, race relations, religious nonsense,  and finally realize what the true divide is that is pushing us away from each other which is shown on those graphs in this thread. 

 

Very well said. I'd even take it a step further and proclaim that we are systematically being distracted and divided by these issues and others like it, intentionally.




#2909115 Universal "Guns Aren't the Issue" Playbook

Posted by venom on 25 August 2014 - 03:37 PM

I agree with the bolded portion. And that's my point. It's not the government that is the agent of control and oppression in this country. It's industry. If you want to be afraid of the government, be afraid of the agents of industry who penetrate the government (i.e. Predatory lenders who become head of oversight committees for loans). If you want to be mad about American foreign policy, be mad at the industry leaders who drive it (oil industry, defense contractors, etc.)

 

You are afraid of being oppressed by the government, and I say you're missing the enemy who is right in front of your face. You want to know what really oppresses this country's long-suffering citizens?

  • Predatory lending
  • Cycle of debt
  • Housing crisis
  • Gas prices
  • Cost of education (exclusionary, and starts out young Americans in debt when Education is free for all in Scandinavia)

What really oppresses Americans is industry acting in its own best interest.

 

See the above. Fewer of us may be able to be affluent, but we aren't being oppressed in a Stalin-esque way. And if we're being oppressed by anyone, it's not the government.

 

I see what you're saying, but I'd argue industry and government are essentially one in the same.




#2909073 Universal "Guns Aren't the Issue" Playbook

Posted by venom on 25 August 2014 - 03:19 PM

Yes.

 

 

Yes I am. And I will continue to do so until I am presented with evidence that the government is oppressing its citizens in a tangible way that affects our quality of life materially.

 

Lol you cant be serious...




#2908970 Universal "Guns Aren't the Issue" Playbook

Posted by venom on 25 August 2014 - 02:05 PM

The best thing to prevent tyranny of the state is a properly educated and well informed electorate, not a bunch of yahoos with shotguns and AR-15s who will likely shoot themselves before they ever disable an M1A1 Abrams tank rolling through their town square.

 

If the day ever arrives where the population of this country falls under the control of a tyrannical leader, it won't be due to gun control laws. 

 

It will be because a largely uneducated, disinterested and bamboozled American public, prefer to camp out on their couches 7 nights a week, stuffing their fat asses with Cheetos and Miller LIte while watching reruns of Duck Dynasty, rather than making a concerted effort to elect intelligent politicians with integrity to represent them. 

 

Well in that case I guess we're all screwed then. The monopoly R's and D's have on the system just goes to show that the population is anything but informed. So with that being said, I think my point on being armed to defend yourself from government tyranny is a valid one, especially considering today's circumstances with the militarization of police and their constant overstepping of authority. Besides, with the way things are trending these days, you could very well make the argument that the status quo is to oppress the American people into submission through legislation, intimidation and force. If you ask me, that's not a favorable trend in the government's dealing with the people.




#2908838 Universal "Guns Aren't the Issue" Playbook

Posted by venom on 25 August 2014 - 12:46 PM

Why?

 

Because we would be helpless against the state. Could you imagine police and military having access to all the guns in the world, but the general population would be denied them? That's a perfect recipe for tyranny.

In a perfect world there would be no such thing as guns. But if they are accessible for some, they should be accessible for all.






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