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TheRed

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#3303872 Gettleman; "Me and Greg Jennings sort of kicked the tires and discussed i...

Posted by TheRed on Yesterday, 08:46 PM

I honestly don't care if he is giving guys low offers, or just walking in and slapping them in the face with his nut sack.

 

Do whatever has to be done. But this offense needs an upgrade. If it isn't from FA, then look to the draft.

 

Our goal should be to not only compete with, but beat Seattle. Period. Get some more firepower for this offense.

 

Ginn was a step in the right direction, but that's only a start.




#3301633 Bergdahl to be charged with desertion

Posted by TheRed on 27 March 2015 - 09:14 AM

Without knowing what we know now, if the White House had left him there to die at the time, the same people screaming about this "deal" would have been screaming about how Obama has no regard for our military personnel. It was basically a no win situation.

 

Regardless of what you may think of him, he is a U.S. citizen.

 

People like g5 don't give a damn about Bergdahl or any outrage about desertion, it's just about sticking it to Obama.




#3301209 GDT: Nets @ Hornets

Posted by TheRed on 26 March 2015 - 08:21 PM

I posted this sentiment in another thread yesterday. I'm starting think he legitimately wants out of Charlotte. IMO, I think Clifford was against the Stephenson signing and Vonleh selection.

Either that or he went from a good coach to brain dead in one season.

 

It may be a little bit of both at this point.

 

If he wasn't on board with either Stephenson or Vonleh though it would make no sense to force them on him. I've been critical of him, but I don't really believe that he had no say at all in the matter. He's a decent coach, but he has his flaws, and they are pretty clear.

 

If he goes, Cho should be evaluated right along with him though.

 

Unfortunately it looks like it will be some time before this franchise finally establishes some long term stability.
 




#3300119 same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Posted by TheRed on 26 March 2015 - 08:01 AM

The people who continuously make every excuse for Cam sound JUST LIKE the Atlanta fans who made every excuse for Vick (about how he had no WR's).....then they get rid of Vick and bring in Ryan and he has stellar seasons WITH THE SAME WR's.

 

I agree that the Panthers need to upgrade the OL and bring in more speed at WR.

 

But, Cam did have an All Pro LT for all but last season....and he did have multple top tier RB's....and he did have Smitth.

 

So, to say he had no OL and weapons his entire career is jus that.....an excuse for every flaw that he needs to work on.

 

This coach and staff speaks VERY HIGHLY of Cam and definitely views him as a franchise QB and the future of the Panthers.  But, they are smart enough to see that Cam has many things to work on and improve for him to become elite....which is something that many in here are NOT smart enough to see.

 

Of course we can't have a thread about our franchise QB without someone mentioning Vick.
 




#3299759 same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 10:25 PM

To be honest, I couldn't care less about what Cam has done in his first 4 seasons and how it compares to the other quarterbacks around the league. All I care about is where he is now as a quarterback and how he can improve to take the next step to becoming a consistent top 10 passer.

 

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. It was a mere part of it.

 

Newton was progressing very well by the end of the 2013 season. that's clear. 2014 he struggled at certain points, but he still shined once he was able to finally get healthy, gain some continuity with his entirely new WR core, and when our OL finally played well.

 

All of the factors that Newton dealt with in 2014 would have been difficult for any quarterback to overcome, let's not minimize that.




#3299722 same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 10:06 PM

Andy Dalton has a better completion %, more passing yds and more passing TDs than Cam. Obviously you have not been keeping up to date. Hence we are all crying for him to get better because there is no way Dalton is more talented than Cam.

 

You might want to take a look at Andrew Luck's completion % before throwing that around.

 

No other QB in NFL history has accounted for more touchdowns as quickly as Newton has in his first 4 seasons.

 

Fact of the matter is, Newton did not come into the NFL having had 3-4 seasons in college to perfect his craft as a pocket passer like a number of the other guys. He had one year in the SEC. He's been playing catch up his first 4 NFL seasons. Give him time.

 

He took the next step in 2013 when he had a real starting left tackle.

 

Unfortunately 2014 was one big series of unfortunate circumstances all happening at once, with the surgery, the injuries, our FO deciding to clear out the entire WR core while Newton recovered from surgery, Gross retiring. It was not the norm by any means.

 

Even with all that, early on in the season before the injuries began to pile up, Newton looked damn sharp as a pocket passer.

 

This thread is quickly turning to a shitfest, like usual of course, so I'm just about done.




#3299694 same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 09:51 PM

Another overreaction. Saying he is lazy with his mechanics doesn't say he s lazy in his behavior or attitude. It is a football term meaning he is often doesn't follow through with each fundamental movement and often shortcuts his mechanics. That has nothing to do with hi being injured or surgery. Let's be real here, it isn't as of this issue just dropped off this past year. It has been a consistent issue since he came here. Why so defensive all the time?

 

Well maybe you should have elaborated on your own post then. Don't blame other people for your piss poor choice of words.

 

So injuries and ankle surgery had absolutely nothing at all to do with his mechanics? Are you drunk?




#3299665 same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 09:34 PM

I love how these threads quickly morph into counter attacks against Rivera and everyone's whipping boy, Shula , without acknowledging the elephant in the room. Newton is inconsistent and often lazy in his mechanics often relying on his athleticism. How many guys can even throw the ball 30 yards on a rope off his back foot? Feel free to criticize Rivera and Shula but that doesn't change that he is right on with his comments.

 

You couldn't think of any other word than lazy? Really? Hopefully that's just a mistake on your part. I don't think dealing with an ankle injury, a rib injury, and a back injury, yet still pushing through and starting 14 regular season games would fall under "lazy".

 

All of the above mentioned factors had a substantial impact on his mechanics.

 

It isn't like Cam was just out there like "I don't feel like applying what I've learned as a pocket passer today guys, fug it".




#3299639 GDT: Nets @ Hornets

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 09:15 PM

At this point it's getting so comical that it seems like Clifford is trying to get fired.




#3299599 same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 08:42 PM

He is stating the obvious, but he is correct. Newton is still developing, it's only his fifth season.

The usual people have popped in to attempt to pile on, but they apparently didn't bother to read all of his comments. Typical.


#3298671 Getting ready to move...(warning, long rant)

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 01:46 PM

That's not really the sort of thing that a person can just say my bad and take back.

 

I don't think I'd want to live under the same roof with someone like that for several months after they did that, just me though. If you didn't have much a choice, that's understandable. But I would begin the process of finding another suitable roommate pretty soon.




#3298648 Reservd for Phil Robertson wants all atheists castrated, raped, and murdered

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 01:29 PM

It's sad that there are actually real people out there who not only listen to, but encourage this lunatic to speak.




#3298567 Treasonous House Republicans

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 11:55 AM

hey, any port in a storm(front)

 

My first reaction is that maybe it's just a parody of sorts like The Onion. Surely nobody can actually buy into that.

 

Of course I know better, the people who frequent such sites are usually the racist jackasses flooding comments sections and spamming facebook talking about how America used to be, and how we need to take it back.

 

Hey twylyght, what else do you have for us?




#3298413 Strickland gives synopsis on Gman at NFL Annual Meeting, and some of my thoughts

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 09:20 AM

I like you top dawg, but I get the feeling that you are being so critical about the Ginn signing because his name wasn't Denarius.




#3298404 Gettleman on Sirius NFL Radio 3/24/2015

Posted by TheRed on 25 March 2015 - 09:12 AM

I can't believe there are some actual fans that despise this man for previous regime issues and calculated (yet cold) business tactics. Gettleman is a TRUE General Manager. We are damn lucky to have him. The Panthers organization is trending upward because of him.

 

It's maybe two or three idiots at the most, one of them is from Shelby. The majority of people here do not feel that way.