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#3253688 Cho Is To Blame For Lance

Posted by cbarrier90 on 25 February 2015 - 03:36 AM

NOTE: Title supposed to read CHO IS NOT TO BLAME FOR LANCE (Mistyped the title).

Maybe this will cause people to change their opinion on Cho.

Should have not listened to Polk.


I have read the article you're referencing (I believe it's ESPN's take on which teams in their respective sports most use analytics) and unfortunately it comes as no surprise. Need the link, btw.


However, in defense of Polk and Jordan, there was alot of hype surrounding the rebrand, and having struck out on Gordon Hayward, the opportunity was there to acquire a good young talent who had made a name for himself in the playoffs the previous season and would provide an upgrade at the 2 guard spot that we desperately needed. I don't think there's any question that from a financial and marketing perspective, getting Lance was a home run even moreso than a less-recognizable Gordon Hayward, and it was very difficult to find folks inside the fanbase who WEREN'T excited about the possibilities, even if the analytics showed that we should have been prepared for what was coming (basically a Gerald Henderson/MKG hybrid.)


Also, from Cho's perspective, having lost out on Hayward and seeing Lance's market dry up, you had an opportunity to get a budding star at only 23 years old on a very team friendly deal that could be easily jettisoned if it didn't work out for some good value in return. Even most of the analytics crowd that didn't like the move agreed that this was a very good play simply because we had nothing to lose and everything to gain.


The biggest issue obviously is Lance's performance has literally been about as bad as it could possibly be to the point where this 23 year old budding star on a team friendly deal has now turned into an albatross that we may not even be able to get rid of in the offseason when he's essentially an expiring deal. However, Lance's signing has exposed some flaws within the team that were thought to be strengths:


1. This team is too young and doesn't have enough of a culture or veteran leadership to put Lance in his place. It was said that the biggest reason we won last season was because the team chemistry was so great, and it was. But the same chemistry thought to be the change of scenery Lance needed was anything but, to the point where the team "chemist" Jannero Pargo isn't even on the roster anymore. The Bobcats played so well down the stretch because they were (and still are) a young team growing together, not a Mavs or Spurs or even Miami where the pecking order is already established.


2. Steve Clifford isn't the Budenholzer-esque revelation we all thought he was. Now, don't get me wrong, Cliff is a solid NBA coach and easily the best in the current era of Charlotte NBA basketball and completely changed the culture, however, he still has flaws as a head coach since he's dealing with things he didn't have to deal with in his first season. His unwillingness to change rotations that aren't working, unwillingness to play younger players in favor of washed up veterans, and complete lack of ingenuity on the offensive end are very worrisome signs and call back to the ugly end of the Larry Brown era. That said, the roster is completely flawed and he should be given at least another year. He's still learning the ropes too like a majority of the roster he's coaching.


3. MJ is still learning as an owner. Again, another situation where the franchise has ventured into unchartered territory with expectations and cap space. MJ has come a loooooonnnnng way since his DC days but he isn't perfect. Hopefully he and the rest of the organization look at the Lance signing and learn from it so they can improve and don't make the same mistake again.


I agree with those that somehow still take Lance's side in the sense that he might as well not have even been a player but a 3 year 27 million dollar expose' about what's still wrong with the organization at a time when the organization could do know wrong. That said, there's only one person to ultimately blame here, and that's Lance Stephenson for statistically being one of the worst NBA players of 2014-15.

#3252229 D Will says Panthers didn't reach out to him when his mother died

Posted by cbarrier90 on 24 February 2015 - 03:02 AM

I get some peoples JR hate even though I don't agree with it, but why don't you like Gettleman if I may ask?


He's a businessman that creates change, and change is difficult for some fans who have known Steve Smith as their number one receiver and DeAngelo Williams as their number one running back for years.

#3252213 Hornets @ Mavericks GDT

Posted by cbarrier90 on 24 February 2015 - 02:04 AM

We are now a full game out of 8th...


The March schedule is chocked full of games against the teams around us. That will make or break the season.

#3252143 Public Service Announcement: Pushover GM vs. Results GM

Posted by cbarrier90 on 24 February 2015 - 12:08 AM

I agree to an extent, but so far he's been handed a 12-4 team and turned it into a 7-9 team. Let's not get his pants down just yet.


He was handed a 7-9 team, turned it into a divisional round team, gutted it, then turned it into another divisional round team with a brighter future.

#3250687 Hornets @ Mavericks GDT

Posted by cbarrier90 on 23 February 2015 - 12:54 PM

We're not going to tank. And even if we did we would probably get the 10th or 11th pick. And we all know that 9th pick from last year is really helping us.

We could easily shut Kemba and MKG down for the season and finish below Orlando in the East. Won't happen, but you're vastly underestimating the lack of talent on the squad.

#3249026 Oklahoma City at Charlotte 7:00 PM Saturday

Posted by cbarrier90 on 21 February 2015 - 09:23 PM

upgrading SG: Hendo/Lance needs to be priority #1 in the offseason

followed closely by our backup bigmen Marvin/Maxiell.. hopefully Zeller can make another jump in his game too..
i hope whenever Biz returns- he is playing like he was before he got injured.

and a backup SF with a nice stroke.. Taylor = im looking at you!

Novel idea: play the two shooting specialists on the bench instead of the guy that is nothing but poison.

#3249002 Oklahoma City at Charlotte 7:00 PM Saturday

Posted by cbarrier90 on 21 February 2015 - 09:09 PM

Absolutely no reason for Lance to see the floor with Daniels and Hairston on the roster. He's the new Gary Neal.

#3248992 Oklahoma City at Charlotte 7:00 PM Saturday

Posted by cbarrier90 on 21 February 2015 - 09:01 PM

I can handle losing because of Westbrook. But we are getting out toughed and out worked, which is supposed to be our calling card.

#3248966 Mo Wants to Finish Career as a Hornet

Posted by cbarrier90 on 21 February 2015 - 08:51 PM

Lifetime contract...?

#3248611 Oklahoma City at Charlotte 7:00 PM Saturday

Posted by cbarrier90 on 21 February 2015 - 02:22 PM

Westbrook is salivating at Mo Williams and Brian Roberts guarding him


With KD out we can move MKG over to Russ.

#3247211 Throwback Thursday - Domenik Hixon TD catch to beat the Taints

Posted by cbarrier90 on 20 February 2015 - 12:14 AM

I believe that's the last catch Hixon had in the NFL. He signed with the Bears but was one of their last cuts in the preseason and decided to retire.


Luke and TD were absolute monsters. 2 picks and about a billion tackles between them.

#3247208 NBA Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by cbarrier90 on 20 February 2015 - 12:07 AM

Depends on his mindset. I could easily see him opting in and retiring after his contract is up.

I find it hard to believe that he would get more than a 4X9 at this point of his career. But it he does... Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.


This is a guy that has agreed to free agent deals with Utah and Charlotte. If any player is looking to cash in it's him.


He will definitely get something around Kemba's salary if not more. If you're a young team looking for respectability he's a great piece to have.

#3247019 Lance Is Already Gone Mentally...

Posted by cbarrier90 on 19 February 2015 - 07:53 PM

I still think no one could have expected him to be THIS terrible. I never expected Henderson to be out-playing him. We should have though, that's charlotte sports.

Charlotte sports is Kemba winning ECF player of the week then needing knee surgery the next week.

Charlotte sports is the team riding all the momentum after a season changing win at home against Washington with a chance to take a winning streak into the all star break only to lose their most important player and proceed to lose to three bad East teams.

#3247016 Lance Is Already Gone Mentally...

Posted by cbarrier90 on 19 February 2015 - 07:49 PM

I wish someone would point out how no one wants him on their team and fuging terrible he is so he'd get over himself and maybe he'd improve. He makes Greg Hardy look like Isaac Newton

He managed to make Gerald Henderson, on the block for what seems like a decade, vital to our success.

What's mind blowing is his contract is constructed to encourage him to do well so he can cash in for the spending spree of 2016, and at this point he looks like a 15th man on the fringes of the league.

#3246965 NBA Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by cbarrier90 on 19 February 2015 - 06:35 PM

I'm really pissed off at the Lance signing right now.

He's hopeless for the remainder of this year. The only way we can salvage next year is if he comes into the season already prepared.

Our team is set next year except for draft picks. As poor as Al has played, I don't see him opting out of 13.5 mil.

Unless we're able to move someone like Marv, our roster for next year is already in place except for our first round draft pick.

Even though Al has played poorly,at this juncture of his career, the length of the contract is more important than the money, as this is his last opportunity to cash in on a long term deal.