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Swan

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In Topic: SuperCam Detractors... answers needed...

18 November 2014 - 02:53 AM

???

over the span of Manning's first 5 seasons (1998-2002), Manning was:
#1 in passing yds (Favre #2)
#1 in passing TDs (Favre #2)
#4 in most wins (Favre #1)
#5 in passer rating (Favre was #13)

Manning:
Year 1 - #3 in passing yds, #5 in pass TDs, #23 QB rating
Year 2 - #3 in passing yds, #3 in pass TDs, #4 QB rating
Year 3 - #1 in passing yds, #1 in pass TDs, #6 QB rating
Year 4 - #2 in passing yds, #5 in pass TDs, #8 QB rating
Year 5 - #3 in passing yds, #2 in pass TDs, #5 QB rating

compare to Cam:
Year 1 - #10 in passing yds, #11 in pass TDs, #15 QB rating
Year 2 - #13 in passing yds, #21 in pass TDs, #15 QB rating
Year 3 - #15 in passing yds, #12 in pass TDs, #16 QB rating
Year 4 - #14 in passing yds, #19 in pass TDs, #27 QB rating

The only numbers that matter^


In Topic: SuperCam Detractors... answers needed...

18 November 2014 - 02:52 AM

4th year

6-10 W/L, 62% Cmp, 26 TD, 23 Int, 84.1 Rtg
2-7-1 W/L, 59% Cmp, 12 TD, 10 Int, 80.3 Rtg


4-year totals

32-32 W/L, 0-2 playoffs, 2x Pro Bowler
27-30-1 W/L, 0-1 playoffs, 2x Pro Bowler

60% Cmp, 82.6 Rtg
60% Cmp, 85.3 Rtg

16,526 Yd, 118 TD, 90 turnovers
16,049 Yd, 106 TD, 63 turnovers


Peyton Manning was trash after 4 years. I mean, even Cam Newton has outplayed him through 4 seasons. Not to mention Peyton was considered a polished player having played 4 years at TN. Cam, meanwhile, entered the league an inexperienced, raw player. I wonder if Indy fans were calling for Peyton to be replaced and trashing him constantly.

Peyton's HC was shít canned after his 4th season and replaced by Tony Dungy. It didn't help though, Peyton sucked again in his 5th season. 26 years old with 9 years of SEC/NFL experience and he was still a mediocre QB.

5th year

Regular Season (10-6 W/L)

29 TD, 20 turnovers, 88.6 Rtg

Playoffs (lost 41-0 @ NYJ)

13-31, 137 Yd, 0 TD, 2 Int


Could you guys please explain what salvaged Peyton Manning's terrible, floundering career? I mean, he was hot garbage through 5 seasons. He'd already gotten one HC fired, had nearly as many turnovers as touchdowns, and was coming off one of the worst playoff performances in NFL history.

What convinced Indy to stick with their struggling, mediocre QB? I mean, I'm sure Indy fans were damn near ready to charge the stadium with pitchforks and demand a change.

Biased reporting at its finest. 

 

You have to compare stats relative to others in the same era, otherwise those "stats" are meaningless.

 

 


In Topic: The Truth - by SCP

16 November 2014 - 02:36 PM

Finally, a voice of reason. 

 

Can we stress patience, and just stop with all the "clean house, fire everyone!!!!" mentality? 

 

 


In Topic: Two Words: "Nick Saban"

16 November 2014 - 02:15 PM

"You" are irrelevant. As am I and every other individual I encounter. I respond to the logic, or illogic, of what people write, meaning the thinking evident behind why they wrote it.

They themselves are an afterthought, if that much, unless it's a back and forth conversation where there's a pattern. But after I'm satisfied that the truth of the matter has been resolved, it's over, so rest assured, I didn't even get past the first sentence in your comment because I don't even remember anything about "you," or what you wrote.

Oops, I thought you were someone else. So my previous post is mostly irrelevant lol. My fault, I confused you for another guy.


In Topic: Two Words: "Nick Saban"

16 November 2014 - 03:34 AM

There is almost two decades of evidence that the Panthers' organization is idiotic. They haven't earned patience, or a pass, at this point. 

 

"If"? Of course the coaching staff is bad. Granted, Shula and Rivera aren't the entire coaching staff, even though Rivera, technically, is. If he goes, they all will likely be gone. 

 

I don't care about Jerry Richardson's "financial repercussions." He will still be wealthy, so why should I? If he pouted and sold the team, someone else would just put one in Charlotte in the future, because he would be regarded as a fool. 

I feel like you have a vendetta against me. 

 

In the other thread, you accused me of being a blind, "pseudo-fan", who was overreacting over a poor season.

 

Honestly, I feel like you're the one who needs a reality check with all due respect. 

 

I'm sure if this were last year, you'd be saying the same thing. 

 

We're essentially arguing the same thing in this thread, so I'll just stop here.


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