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#476681 Richardson and our FO proved again they are retarded

Posted by Fiz on 25 February 2010 - 05:39 PM

This talk that before the Uncapped year that Richardson would not let Peppers pay 20 mil$. Lets look now against all the nobility of Richardson against the NFL how much money his fellow Owners would pay to Peppers in uncapped year....

this does not make sense.

They didn't even tagged the guy and didn't even ask for a 2nd rounder

he's not a RFA you mouth breathing cretin. You can't place a tender on him.

or at least place the transition tag and if the guy gets a reasonable contract match it....

the transition tag is the exact same as the franchise. they'd be on the hook for the 21 million unless someone else decided to match it, and then they'd be left with nothing.

learn the fuging rules.

And all the buuullllshhit that we have to eat, that they have the give the extension to young player.....Halllooo, we are in uncapped year, you can pay all the money you like to Peppers and still extend everybody, if you don't want it next year don't sign the guy.....

easy to say for someone posting from a demo computer in walmart

#476286 You know who is eyeing that peppers money?

Posted by Fiz on 25 February 2010 - 12:53 PM

oh no he's not putting a franchise tag for 21 million dollars on a player who shows up 8 games a season, and he might not pick up the option on a 30+ year old DT coming off a season ending surgery who was never that good anyway.

richardson must be trying to save money a bloo bloo bloo

also the glazers made money on manchester and if you knew anything about the situation or how they bought the team with borrowed money using the actual team as collateral (illegal in the states) you'd know that but nope you're dumb as a poo house rat.

#474442 hurney said this about the QB position

Posted by Fiz on 23 February 2010 - 09:47 PM

did you really think he'd come out and be like "yeah fug jake"

#473695 stop this whole apocalypse crap about the front office

Posted by Fiz on 23 February 2010 - 03:21 PM

If you don't want to believe the league's own damn site, be my guest. Know that you look like a little kid putting their fingers in their ears shaking their head "no no no I can't hear you!!"

that article was speculation by someone who doesn't work intimately with the panthers.

you are painfully obtuse. this is like arguing with the tide.

#473651 stop this whole apocalypse crap about the front office

Posted by Fiz on 23 February 2010 - 03:01 PM

Peppers was tagged last year because they believed they were going to compete for a playoff spot and minus a mental collapse by their quarterback they would gotten back.

the 2nd rounder from new england rumor from last year was never confirmed and is just revisionist history by fans with an axe to grind.

21+ million is an absurd amount of money to give to someone who isn't an every down player.

nothing can make him sign a long term extension.

the same front office you dumb white noise poo posters are ready to lynch have gotten the team to the position where they have a multitude of young talent they can spend that money on anyway.

Hurney didn't create the CBA problem, and its status is impacting how he handles every contract.

most importantly, if you buy into any of these dipshit conspiracy theories, you're parroting ideas from low content posters like pstall and king taharqua.

#472864 Marty Hurney will issue a major statement tomorrow at 2

Posted by Fiz on 22 February 2010 - 11:07 PM

hopefully he brings on jake who pulls a bud dwyer

#472603 WCNC reporting no tag for Peppers via team source

Posted by Fiz on 22 February 2010 - 08:22 PM

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#471812 Panthers should rebuild? (espn article)

Posted by Fiz on 22 February 2010 - 11:09 AM

Carolina Panthers: Is it time to rebuild?

After a 12-win season in 2008, the Panthers had high hopes for 2009. Alas, Jake Delhomme's season-opening spurt of interceptions was a sign of bad things to come; the Panthers finished 8-8, but needed wins over an absent New York Giants team in Week 16 and the Saints' backups in Week 17 to get there. DVOA has them at 10.2 percent over the season -- 14th in the league -- but it underestimates the level of effort they faced against an otherwise-excellent Saints team in Week 17. It's fair to say that Carolina was a below-average team in 2008.

That difficult year yields challenging questions for this offseason. Defensive end Julius Peppers is an unrestricted free agent, and because he was tagged as the team's franchise player a year ago, he'd cost an absurd $21.8 million to keep around for 2010. Chances are that he won't be, costing the team its best player without any compensation. To fit Peppers into the cap a year ago, the Panthers signed Delhomme to a cap-friendly contract extension that guarantees him nearly $12 million in 2010; of course, Delhomme was alternately average and terrifying in 2009, and was essentially benched onto injured reserve. The team is stuck with him for one more year.

With Peppers leaving, Delhomme gnawing at owner Jerry Richardson's pocketbook, and a host of veterans that are unlikely to survive a rebuilding period as Panthers, Carolina should take the uncapped year to shed as many of its onerous contracts as possible and start over. With a talented draft class (especially at OT/DT) entering the league, they have assets that could result in valuable draft picks, including wide receiver Steve Smith and left tackle Jordan Gross.

Their best trading chip, though, is All-Pro halfback DeAngelo Williams. Williams turns 27 in April, has only 754 NFL carries on his odometer, and is signed for one more year at the price of $725,000. With budding (albeit injury-prone) star Jonathan Stewart waiting in the wings, a Williams deal is the Panthers' best shot at getting back the first-round pick they traded to the San Francisco 49ers to move up and draft Everette Brown a year ago. The San Diego Chargers, who pick 28th, seem like a logical landing point if the Panthers head in that direction. With a team not good enough to make it to the Super Bowl, it makes sense for them to start over.

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#471312 Franchise Tagging Week

Posted by Fiz on 21 February 2010 - 07:24 PM

What's a transistion tag?

same as franchise, but if another team matches the player can bail.

basically rolling the dice with a riskier RFA

#471115 Boston Globe: Better stories about the Panthers than any local rag

Posted by Fiz on 21 February 2010 - 03:41 PM

If anyone is wondering where I get all my amazingly awesome news updates about the Panthers, it's basically just rotoworld sorted by team, which you can access here.

The Patriots are once again rumored to be in the Peppers sweepstakes, and of course all their journalists are putting Company Man Gantt and the clown car of assholes at the Charlotte Observer to shame.

If you’re planning to spend $13 million a year on a player, chances are you’re going to want an idea what you’re getting.

And if you really want Julius Peppers - the belle of this winter’s sparse free agent ball - you’ll probably have a lot of trouble figuring that out.

On one side of the ledger is a person that people in his inner circle universally regard as a good guy, a teammate who works hard in the weight room and is always in shape, and a player with the kind of rare talent to redefine the prototype for a position.

On the other side is an athlete who often disappears not for snaps or series but for games, who has been said by some to bring nothing to the locker room, and who has frustrated many coaches and teammates with a lack of passion for football.

Who is the Real Julius Peppers? Very few people know, and that’s why red flags have been raised as he prepares to hit the open market March 5.

“I wouldn’t touch him, for that money and what he gives you,’’ said an ex-Panthers personnel man. “On the field, he’s a freak athletically, but it’s whether he shows up or not. He’ll go two and three games and do nothing but take up space. Then he’ll have two sacks, a forced fumble, a pick, and change the game. And that’s the danger. He can mesmerize you, but it’s not consistent.’’

“He could end up costing some personnel guy his job,’’ said an AFC scout with extensive experience evaluating Peppers. “I’m terrified of him. In my heart of hearts, I believe that if you pay this guy, I don’t think you’ll see a double-digit sack [season] again the rest of his career.’’

And that’s where his fit gets murky.

Can a club that has built its operation on players who are passionate about football change a guy who so often has demonstrated an apathy toward the game?

“Football’s come so easy to him,’’ said Brentson Buckner, the former Panthers defensive tackle who played next to Peppers for five years. “Does he love it the way Steve Smith or Bryant Young or Jerry Rice love it? I don’t think so. But he’s got so much God-given ability that, even without loving it, he’s a five-time Pro Bowler and three-time All-Pro with 81 sacks in eight years.

“You do think, ‘Man, a guy with that much ability, imagine if he did love it.’ ’’

At the same time, Buckner calls Peppers “a prisoner of his own talent,’’ in the sense that no matter what he does, it never seems enough. And that, plus his private nature, makes him tough to read.

“One thing I know is he likes football,’’ said Mike Rucker, another ex-Panther defensive lineman. “If he didn’t like football, he’s the type of guy who would’ve hung up his cleats and walked away.

“If you break it down, if it’s about the money, then why wouldn’t he have taken the contract they offered a couple of years ago?’’

Buckner theorized that while Peppers might lack the burning desire to be the best, he has always valued the respect of his teammates and, as such, the right locker room might change things. In October, Carolina linebacker Jon Beason called out Peppers for a lack of passion. Peppers responded with six sacks over the next four games.

That is the carrot for teams when he hits the market. Ex-NFL offensive lineman Ross Tucker, now a writer for SI.com, recalled playing opposite Peppers. Tucker tried to cut-block him, and Peppers stunned Tucker by leaping out of the way before burying the quarterback. Peppers said to Tucker, “Dude, you can’t do that to me.’’

Then, watching tape of a game against the Raiders, Tucker saw the coaches move Peppers all over the field, and he “literally beat [the offensive linemen] one by one.’’

But, Tucker said, “That’s what he gives you, those flashes of brilliance. The Vikings game [in December], they couldn’t block him. But that was in prime time, and his contract is up. I think he picks and chooses his spots.’’

“I don’t think he’s a great football player, but he’s a superhuman athlete,’’ Buckner said. “He hasn’t gotten to a point where, ‘I know the double-team is coming, here’s how I beat it.’ Defensive linemen are taught to maintain the double-team. That’s for guys like me.

“Guys like him should beat the double-team. That’s what Lawrence Taylor did, that’s what Reggie White and Bruce Smith did. That’s the kind of player he should be.

“The guy’s built like a power forward, runs like a DB with the flexibility of a gymnast and strength of a nose tackle. And he jumps like Jordan. He’s like a football science project.’’

He reacts differently to different situations, and that goes for the way he’s coached, as well. Peppers was said to have soured on ex-Panthers defensive coordinator Mike Trgovac and line coach Sal Sunseri, who were rattle-the-cage types. Then Ron Meeks arrived to run the Carolina defense in 2009, and things improved.

Buckner says Peppers needs coaches who will speak frankly and respectfully to him, and have the gumption to challenge him. Jack Del Rio, the Carolina defensive coordinator his rookie year, was that guy, telling Peppers, “I expect more of you.’’

The question is whether he expects enough of himself.

“You have to figure out what button to push,’’ said the ex-Carolina personnel man. “But I don’t know that there is one.’’

The AFC scout added, “He should never have less than 14 sacks. But you can’t make a guy passionate about something that he’s not.’’

Even lacking that, Peppers has proven he can be an All-Pro pass-rusher, commanding constant attention from the offense. Will he ever be more than that? That’s a question plenty of teams are looking to answer.


#470392 If I didn't love the Panthers so much, I'd kick 'em to the curb

Posted by Fiz on 20 February 2010 - 12:21 PM

know what the greatest play i'd ever seen was prior to 2003? a 2 yard scramble by Steve Beurlein.

#470391 If I didn't love the Panthers so much, I'd kick 'em to the curb

Posted by Fiz on 20 February 2010 - 12:21 PM

im so glad i had my formative years during 1997-2001.

#467501 "I Am A MotherFvcker"

Posted by Fiz on 17 February 2010 - 08:44 PM

Why do the Furries care about it?

the beard

#466984 Patriots still interested in Julius Peppers

Posted by Fiz on 17 February 2010 - 02:07 PM

The Patriots "remain very interested in acquiring [Julius] Peppers," sources tell NFL.com.

The Patriots ranked 23rd in sacks last season with just 31, a number that would surely rise with Peppers in the fold. Along with the Eagles, the Patriots are considered the most likely landing spots for Peppers. We'll see if they are willing to pay Peppers, Tom Brady and Vince Wilfork this offseason.
Source: NFL.com
Related: Patriots

there was so much smoke last year I can't believe there wasn't any fire.

I just hope the Panthers find a way to pry away a couple of their second rounders in all of this.

#466290 Best of Youtube

Posted by Fiz on 16 February 2010 - 11:13 PM

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