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EightyNine

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#3327941 What do you think NFL QBs prefer? Better weapons or better protection?

Posted by EightyNine on Yesterday, 04:04 PM

We hear time and time again about how teams need to surround their QBs with weapons, but what do you think QBs actually prefer? For instance, if you had a 1 on 1 with Cam and asked him who he would rather have between a stud LT or a equally stud WR, what do you think he would prefer?

"Big men give you the chance to compete."

 

Everyone should hopefully know the answer to this question.  Without protection, you have no chance.




#3327933 This Devin Funchess guy...(WR Michigan)

Posted by EightyNine on Yesterday, 03:56 PM

Cam has a more accurate deep ball than Tom Brady has ever had. And Brady has done pretty well with himself.

 

Lets not get carried away..




#3316859 RUMOR: Panthers looking to move up to 16-20th pick

Posted by EightyNine on 09 April 2015 - 11:51 AM

Tomatoe or tomato on that BPA argument. It's only worth arguing about in April, three weeks before thle draft.

Technically, effectively, philosophically, theoretically, or whatever, the goal is to get the player that you think is the best. If we trade up to do it, then I trust that Gettleman knows what he wants and what he's doing.

Yes, well..be that as it may.. I'm still gonna argue that "tomatoe" is incorrect..because it is.




#3316594 RUMOR: Panthers looking to move up to 16-20th pick

Posted by EightyNine on 09 April 2015 - 08:37 AM

I have to disagree. My idea of "BPA" is waiting to see what falls to you and selecting from your board the best overall talent. If your trading up for anyone that's not BPA because everyone is available for a price if your willing to move up. It completely contradicts the idea of sitting back and taking the best player.  Evem if it only costs you a 7th rounder your moving up because you believe that guy won't be there when you pick. Thats not BPA.

I don't understand your explanation of why trading up goes against BPA.  Trading has no effect on whether you select the player at the top of your board, or reach for someone that is lower on your board because they fill an immediate need.

 

I guess what you're saying is that by trading up, you arent selecting a player that would have been "available" to you.  But thats why you trade up.. So that those players would become available to you.  You move up because you think the value of the player you traded for is greater to your team than what you gave up to move up.  It still has no affect on whether or not you take the player at the top of your board.

 

All BPA means is that when youre on the clock, you arent going to pass up on your highest rated player just because you want someone who is rated lower that fills a need.  It would be possible to trade up and still not take the player at the top of your board because you want someone that fills a need and you think they wont be available when you pick.  That would go against BPA.  But as long as you take the player at the top of your board, you are sticking with the BPA philosophy.  If you are able to, try to give me an explanation of how making a trade would prevent you from taking the player rated highest on your board.




#3315843 RUMOR: Panthers looking to move up to 16-20th pick

Posted by EightyNine on 08 April 2015 - 03:41 PM

Jarrett, Clausen, Edwards, Brown, etc....all positions of high need, even though they kept falling Hurney had to get his hands on them.

 

Trading up to get Brown and Edwards, and was possibly shopping our 1st to move up that year to get Pickles.  He absolutely drafted for need moreso than BPA.

 

Just my opinion though.

 

Yeah, you're probably right.

 

I'm sure the more your team loses, the harder it is to stick with the BPA philosophy.




#3315538 RUMOR: Panthers looking to move up to 16-20th pick

Posted by EightyNine on 08 April 2015 - 10:25 AM

There's not a player in this draft outside of the top-8 picks worth trading up for. I'll be pissed if we give up anymore than a 5th rounder to trade up, regardless of who it's for.

 

I don't know what type of credentials you have, but when people make comments like this, I can't help but think they are delusional about how much they think they know.




#3308537 Jerry Richardson... A man of the fans!

Posted by EightyNine on 01 April 2015 - 10:49 AM

Your always a winner

 

Thanks, man.

 

In all seriousness, it seems like you are spending too much time trying to bash JR.  I'm not sure if you are on a mission to try to get people to dislike him, but it seems like it.  It looks like our team is heading down a better path right now, and your hate for JR is keeping you from seeing that he got us a GM that is doing things the right way.  Seems like youre a glass half empty kind of guy..

 

VERY few teams win consistently.  Like, basically only one team.  Is it because they all have owners that dont care about winning?




#3308449 Jerry Richardson... A man of the fans!

Posted by EightyNine on 01 April 2015 - 10:06 AM

Yep.

His personal attacks are stupid, who cares.

Questioning whether he wants to win is stupid, even as a businessman it will make him more money.

Caring about money or the league more than the team, if you're successful who cares?

Good morals, crocodile tears? Who. fuging. Cares. He just the owner of a team not your daddy.


All those people are just hating for stupid reasons. Wanting to win doesn't matter to me one bit, but being able to win? THAT is a different argument. That is a valid argument to not like our owner. And above all that argument is backed evidence, not opinions. That is why I dislike Jerry, he is a losing owner, who applies losing methods, that is what his history shows.


In the past 20 years we rank in the bottom third of NFL teams looking at wins vs. losses. This is a fact. And if JR isn't cheap (which he's not) and spending all the money he can to win, and he does care about winning as a priority, and he's still failing...it just makes it worse.

thebigcat,  you pie'd this, but he is referring to you.  You are apart of the group that hates for stupid reasons.




#3259464 How much trust do you have in Gettleman/Rivera in Offensive Tackle evaluation?

Posted by EightyNine on 02 March 2015 - 09:24 AM

Matsko can't be left out of this discussion. with the junk he's had to work with, I'd say he can put together a solid unit. maybe his input should be considered more heavily

 

How do you know how much Matsko's input was taken into consideration?

 

For all we know, Matsko was constantly in Rivera's ear telling him how great he thought Nate Chandler and Byron Bell would be.

 

Rivera is not picking the starting lineup by himself.  They have tons of meetings and evaluations where they collectively discuss the development and performance of each player.




#3224150 Cam on DP Show this morning

Posted by EightyNine on 30 January 2015 - 12:27 PM

He's so bad at interviews.. I hope his teammates make fun of him all the time for it.  He needs a speech coach.  He tries way too hard.

 

It's funny that his response for the bad weather question was, "you have to psyche yourself out"




#3223152 Greg Hardy feels sorry for Matt Ryan

Posted by EightyNine on 29 January 2015 - 09:46 AM

Why is some guy who threw a girl on a bed with guns talking about having issues? 

Why is some guy who is an Atlanta Falcons fan spending so much time on this message board?




#3222556 What happened to Ryan Kalil?

Posted by EightyNine on 28 January 2015 - 02:39 PM

He is only a couple of seasons removed from being considered the top Center in the NFL.

Over the last 2-3 seasons he turned into a liability.

What happened to #67, our (former) All-Pro Center?

 

"Johnson was the rock-solid veteran for a defensive line infused with youth, and the same could be said for Kalil, another eight-year veteran, who directed an offensive line that was in flux for the first half of the season.

"Ryan had a big load," Gettleman said. "Seven consecutive games with different people around him. The way he persevered – I told Ryan, 'You didn't get voted to the Pro Bowl, but you should have.' This was his best year – not only as a player, but as a leader.""

 

http://www.panthers....5f-6640a73b51dd

 

^It appears as though you couldn't be any more wrong.




#3220345 Does Gettleman Send a Message to Cam This Offseason?

Posted by EightyNine on 26 January 2015 - 10:17 AM

Hopefully, digging ourselves out of the cap mess we were in will fix the offense.  I've thrown this quote out before, but I'll say it again because I think it's so important, and its something I didn't think about enough before Gettleman said it.  "If you are looking for instant gratification, you're gonna get burned."  Very few teams in the league have had sustained success.. and I think its because its so hard to build for the future when everyone wants to win now.. 

 

You have to be patient building a roster, and you have to be good at finding value in the lower half of your roster.  You have to always think about the future, while remaining competitive in the present...which is very difficult to do.  Gettleman is going to improve the offense, but hes not going to jeopardize our future in order to do it.




#3216823 Bill Voth's chat with Gettleman: Understanding offseason plans

Posted by EightyNine on 22 January 2015 - 10:32 AM

Nothing new here.. Pretty much the same things Gettleman's been saying since he got here.




#3216770 gettleman on newton contract

Posted by EightyNine on 22 January 2015 - 09:26 AM

I think a problem could be if Cam completely balls out this year with better personnel, he(his agent) might ask for more money.

 

I'm not sure if next season is going to make a big difference in what Cam gets paid.  For those thinking that we could sign him now for less than we could if he has a great year next season, I doubt that's the case.  He's already done enough to be one of the highest paid quarterbacks.