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#2820846 so IF we draft McBuckets at #9....

Posted by teeray on 16 June 2014 - 08:01 AM

Terry remember how you were just like this over a certain WR from Georgia Tech who was eventually drafted by the Jets??

You explained away all his faults and convince yourself how good he was going to be. While I was telling you he wasn't worth a 1st 4 rounds pick.


With those pooty QBs everyone WR on that team looks like they suck.  So they keep drafting WRs and then complain about them, but it is because their OC and QBs both suck.  When the Jets were the team that drafted him I knew he was doomed.  :(


But, I also remember the time a large number of people told me Cam Newton wasn't worthy of the #1 overall pick, and was going to be a bust because he wasn't going to be able to run as well in the NFL, and he played in a gimmick offense that was "nothing" like an NFL offense, and he was a terrible passer, and that his game would not translate to the NFL.  He is a one trick pony  Etc, etc


Which is funny because this debate has evolved in very similar fashion.  I was only defending McDermott because I thought the people who just automatically wrote this guy's NBA potential off were being stupid.  Say what you want about McD, you don't score 27 ppg at 55 fg% 45% 3fg% in the MVC or Big East without being pretty fugging good at basketball and not a one trick pony.  To say otherwise is just plain stupid. 


And that was the only point I set out to make, much like when I was defending Cam when people were so determined to tell people they knew he was going to bust and set the franchise back 5 years and everyone will regret it. 


But the same thing kind of happened with McDermott that happened with Cam.  I would go and study his games, and do stats analysis to see if what you guys were saying was true.  And the more I studied him, the less and less of his criticisms are actually true, much like when I really kept diving into studying Cam, most of his criticisms weren't true.


He struggles against length... no he doesn't

He isn't athletic... yeah he is

He played a weak schedule... no he didn't

He played against small opponents... no he didn't

He doesn't create his own shots... yeah he did



The thing you haven't figured out yet is I haven't said anything about how great McDermott is going to be in the NBA.  Because I don't know.  Neither do you.  You are adamant about how much he sucks.  I just point out that there is reason to believe you are wrong.  There is also reason to believe that the criticisms against his offensive game are unfair.


Unlike you, I actually don't think I already know it all.  McDermott may very well bust.  He may also become an all-star.  That is true of nearly every draft pick.  Even sure fire picks sometimes don't work out. Sometimes players that have a bunch of questions that push them to the 2nd round ends up being great players like Paul Milsap, Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, Antonio Davis, etc.


I simply try to be fair to the player, either way.  I am usually not a negative person that roots for people's failures.  I will have questions, but you will hard pressed to find me being too critical of any player.  That is because I used to be a basketball player and the people who are the most critical usually don't know what they are talking about.


Honestly, I am a lot like Gruden.  I kind of like everyone, and rarely have a strong opinion in the negative.  If I recall the only two people I was pretty strongly against one of my teams drafting, it was Blaine Gabbert and MKG.  Thank God we didn't draft Gabbert, but as soon as we drafted MKG I became a believer and his biggest defender, yet some of his biggest supporters before the draft are trying to already run him out of town. 


You may end up being right.  He may end up not having a very productive NBA career.  If he flames out and fails I hope that makes you feel good.  You can come back and tell me how smart you are, and how I should have listened to you.  But trust me, you don't know what they hell you are talking about.  If he fails or succeeds it doesn't mean you know something that no one else does.  It just mean you happened to guess right.

#2820702 so IF we draft McBuckets at #9....

Posted by teeray on 15 June 2014 - 10:52 PM

The video showed you he struggles when defended by length, and again, he went up against guys who won't see an NBA court. Most of his points came off of open shots against pathetic players who just happened to have NBA "length," not against NBA-caliber players, like I said the first time. 


He "struggled" to 27.3 ppg.  lololol


30, 39, 25, & 15 points with a field goal percentage of 57%


But they all sucked.


How did he do against Villanova.  They have some length and some talented wing players.  They went 29-5.  He must have struggled against them right??  Oh, he averaged 32 ppg against them,  Hmmm


Let's see there is Providence, they have two 6-9 forwards, a  7 foot center that plays, and another 6'6 strong bodied forward.  Surely that length cut him down.  Nope.  He dropped a cool 45 points on those guys.  That is to go along with 21 points and 27 points he scored on them the other 2 games they played


Xavier had a front line with 6'10, 6'9, and 6'8 that played a bunch.  Maybe that stopped him.  Oh he scored 35 and 27 points on them?  Never mind.


That is 11 games... should I keep going??  I mean they only played 35 games, I'm already through a third of the teams that all had decent length.


Let's see.... Arizona State had a 7'2 center that is the all-time blocks leader in Pac-12 history, and was #1 in the nation in blocked shots.  That surely got him.  Nope.  He scored 27 that game.


Umm, DePaul had a rotation of 6'10 6'10 6'9 and 6'8.  He scored a cool 35 and 32 on those guy



Okay I really will stop now. 


The great irony is, that the ONLY team he struggled against last season was Georgetown.  One of the smallest teams in the Big East conference.  He also had a piss poor game against George Washington early in the season but I count that as much of an outlier as I do Hood's 2-10 performance against Mercer and Stauskas 1-5 performance against Massachusetts-Lowell.  Just pooty days


Those were the only three bad games he had all season.  One of those bad games he still mustered up 22 points but shot a low FG% so I count it against him.


Again, McD had only 4 games last season where he had a sub .400 fg%.  Stauskas had 11 games where he shot below .400

#2820667 Game of Thrones-HBO-Seasons 1, 2, 3

Posted by teeray on 15 June 2014 - 10:13 PM

One of my favorite George RR Martin writings is at the end of this chapter where Tyrion kills Tywin:


"But the stink that filled the privy gave ample evidence that the oft-repeated jape about his father was just another lie.  Lord Tywin Lannister did not, in the end, sh*t gold"





#2818663 Hornets Are Interested In McDermott At #9?

Posted by teeray on 13 June 2014 - 10:24 AM

Could care less what the picture is on the beer label.....I picked the name because I enjoy the taste of the beer. Not because of the picture.

Nice try.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying the literary classic Alice in Wonderland. You don't have to run from it.

You just like beer and pictures of Tom Petty that just happen to be in reference to Alice in Wonderland? What a coincidence!

#2818596 so IF we draft McBuckets at #9....

Posted by teeray on 13 June 2014 - 09:31 AM

Well, we will still have 16+ million to spend.  We have #24.  We have #45.


We can find a decent starting or back up SG or PG.  Hendo isn't perfect, but he isn't complete garbage.  If he starts at #2 we will be fine


McD likely play behind MKG and be a 6th man to start his career.  That is fine.  These days if you are expecting a player to come in and start right away and be great you are probably fooling yourself.


So the fact he can be a backup next season is a good thing.

#2816930 Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak, Public Unaware

Posted by teeray on 11 June 2014 - 07:15 PM

Wrong.  You forgot to take into account US population growth.


From 1980's to 2010 US population increased by about 110 million people.


Gun Ownership decreased from 50% to 32%


Gun sales are at all time high in US in last 5 years.



Population increased by 30%-32% in last 30 years but gun ownership decreased by only 18%.  More people have guns in US than 30 years ago.


If I recall correctly it was based on % of households that own guns, as population grows so do houses.


Only about 20% of the gun owners for about 65% of the total gun ownership.

Less people per capita own guns, therefore less people per capita are dying.

#2815419 UNC basketball program back in the news

Posted by teeray on 10 June 2014 - 01:41 PM

This is really just a bunch of bullshit.  I hope people realize that.


This is nothing more than activist journalism surrounding the O'Bannon trial.  The real target for many in the media is the NCAA, not UNC. But as Tyrion Lannister said, "Using honest emotions to do dishonest work is her specialty".


I am a former student-athlete, and I realize we are just a bunch of dumb jocks who can't read, but at the end of the day there is one person that should have the finger pointed at them, but no one will do it because it would be in bad taste... and that is the athlete himself.


We are given an opportunity that we decide whether to take advantage of or not.  Some players will try to take the easy way out, whether that be by cheating or taking less than rigorous courses.  BUT guess what.  So do many students in the general student body.  I have seen more people in the general student body cheat than athletes, I have seen more general body students flunk out than the athletes, I saw many general body students not be able to handle to freedoms of college and flunk out.  Not taking advantage of your opportunities while in college is not a plague only contagious to student-athletes.


And let me tell you, it has been a while since I was playing college ball, but I had many friends that went to UNC, State, and Duke and I have some working knowledge of what went on there.  Many athletes knew which easy courses to take to get a buffer on their GPA.  It may have changed since I was around, but if you were at NC State... Parks and Rec department says hello.  If you were at Duke it was either Sociology or Communications. 


Hell, I was at school as a basketball player, and I took a class called "Introduction to Basketball" as a GPA buffer.


The media can keep clamoring and misunderstanding the NCAA rules, but at this point (there is still the Wainstein investigation and the SBI charges that could bring new light) the NCAA isn't going to get involved because there is no evidence that this was an athletics scandal.  And nor should they.  The NCAA already has too many stupid rules, and have trouble enforcing them.  Trying to get them in the business of classroom administration would be stupid beyond repair.


Right now, you should read these reports and give it the same amount of credibility that you would MSNBC about Republicans or Fox News about Democrats.  After all, it is all the same... activist journalism.

#2815099 Hornets Are Interested In McDermott At #9?

Posted by teeray on 10 June 2014 - 09:22 AM

He's not even 6'8. He's 6'6


Jeebus.  Everyone is listed at shoe height.


Otherwise Vonleh and Gordon are only 6'7.


If you are going to use height without shoes than at least use it for every other player

#2815005 Hornets Are Interested In McDermott At #9?

Posted by teeray on 10 June 2014 - 07:44 AM

BTW, this is a guy that went to Team USA camp last summer and lit it up.  Only two collegians were invited (Smart was the other), and McDermott according to sources was one of the best players there.


Marc SteinVerified account@ESPNSteinLine Jul 22

A few names I've heard as Day 1 standouts from Team USA camp: Damian Lillard, Gordon Hayward, DeAndre Jordan AND collegian Doug McDermott



“He's a confident player. He's a confident shooter, a confident scorer,” New Orleans Pelicans forward Ryan Anderson said. “I think a college guy can come in here and be intimidated, but he wasn't. He accepted the challenge.”


“He can shoot the sh*t out of the basketball,” Detroit Pistons big man Andre Drummond said. “It's incredible. I was surprised he didn't come out for the draft this year, but he's going to make a lot of money the way he shoots.”


“He's going to be a great shooter in this league," Golden State Warriors guard Klay Thompson added.


“He did fine through the physicality,” Detroit Pistons power forward Greg Monroe said. “He got to the rim a little bit. He definitely looked good.”





So he has played against some of the best NBA players and apparently more than held his own

#2813676 How Many Years Do You Give MKG?

Posted by teeray on 08 June 2014 - 08:17 PM

This is why I hate when you draft guys who need developing. Fans never have the patience to allow him to actually develop.

#2810596 Sources: Hornets Interested in Lance Stephenson

Posted by teeray on 05 June 2014 - 06:31 PM

He is a good player and only 23.

His antics worry me a bit, but he is a good player that if he didn't blow up team chemistry would make us better

#2810590 I've Never Seen The Argument Put So Well Before

Posted by teeray on 05 June 2014 - 06:27 PM

Hey Delhommey and CWG....tell me again how it is society's fault that an underprivelaged kid fails in the classroom.

Here is a story about a boy who was HOMELESS from the age of 6. Yet, he graduated with a 4.7 GPA, graduated valedictorian of his class, and won a scholarship to Florida State.

Quote from the kid:
“I perform the way that I do in the classroom because I have everything to lose. I make the grades I do because I was once lost and had nothing.”
Furlong’s mother died of leukemia when he was just 6 years old.
Soon afterward, Furlong, his father, and older brother lost their home and ended up in homeless shelters.

Furlong said he often went to bed hungry and there were times when he wanted to give up.

“I never had a full childhood. I felt like I wasn’t even human anymore. And I would just think to myself at night, 'Do I continue to do this or do I make something of myself?'"

It is ALL ABOUT personal fortitude, work ethic, and a desire to succeed.

He should have just listened to the two of you fuging idiots, acknowledged defeat, and gone on welfare.



There is probably tens of millions of anecdotal stories of the opposite happening.

#2810231 Study finds strong evidence for discriminatory intent behind voter ID laws

Posted by teeray on 05 June 2014 - 02:40 PM

Please explain how a law that requires EVERYONE to provide an ID....and provides and ID for ANYONE who cannot afford one....is "discriminatory".  The fact that EVERYONE is required to do the exact same thing is the opposite of discriminatory.


You are just another minority making excuses....guess going to get that free ID is just too much damn work for you.


EVERYONE had to pay poll taxes to vote


EVERYONE had to take literacy tests to vote



That is not the exact opposite of discriminatory!

#2810219 Study finds strong evidence for discriminatory intent behind voter ID laws

Posted by teeray on 05 June 2014 - 02:35 PM

Those idiots (yes Del, I am talking about you) that claim having to show an ID to vote "discriminates" against anyone really do not even know the definition of the word "discriminate".


The law requires everyone (every race, gender, age, etc) to show an ID.  The SAME type of ID mind you.....and will provide you with a free one if you can't affor one.   


As such, the law ,as it is written, is the complete OPPOSITE of disciminatory.


Carry on


Much like poll taxes were not discriminatory because everyone had to pay them!!


And literacy tests to vote was not discriminatory because everyone had to take them!!!


Those I think we can all agree were the exact OPPOSITE of discriminatory.




#2810195 What we get for...

Posted by teeray on 05 June 2014 - 02:15 PM

Republicans have been planning this counter assault for years, amazing that they only now know the details.



"The Hill is giving State and the White House poo," says one senior administration source. "The political consequences­ are being used as leverage in the policy debate." According to White House sources, Marc Grossman, who replaced Richard Holbrooke as special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, was given a direct warning by the president's opponents in Congress about trading Bowe for five Taliban prisoners during an election year. "They keep telling me it's going to be Obama's Willie Horton moment," Grossman warned the White House. The threat was as ugly as it was clear: The president's political enemies were prepared to use the release of violent prisoners to paint Obama as a Dukakis-­like appeaser, just as Republicans did to the former Massachusetts governor during the 1988 campaign. In response, a White House official advised Grossman that he should ignore the politics of the swap and concentrate solely on the policy.


"Frankly, we don't give a sh*t why he left," says one White House official. "He's an American soldier. We want to bring him home."

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That was 2 years ago.  How blindsided were they to promise in advance political retribution if he brought home a POW.




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