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#3093292 RR press conference: no staff changes during "bye" week

Posted by teeray on 17 November 2014 - 12:55 PM

What little faith I had left in Ron is evaporated. It isn't working.

No accountability.


#3092737 SuperCam Detractors... answers needed...

Posted by teeray on 17 November 2014 - 03:10 AM

How admirable of you to leave out Peyton's horrible 3 win, 28 Int season. Or that he led the NFL in turnovers his first 4 seasons. That's cherry picking at it's finest. Don't even try to act like Peyton showed improvement and continued to develop each season. He didn't. He regressed.

He was beyond terrible...

Yr 1- 26 TD, 28 Int, 71.2 Rtg

Then he improved...

Yr 2- 26 TD, 15 Int, 90.7 Rtg
Yr 3- 33 TD, 15 Int, 94.7 Rtg

Then he regressed back to sucking...

Yr 4- 26 TD, 23 Int, 84.1 Rtg
Yr 5- 27 TD, 19 Int, 88.1 Rtg


Peyton Manning did not become an elite or even consistent QB until his 6th season in the NFL. He didn't even win a playoff game until his 6th season. At that point he had 10 years of experience between the SEC & NFL. Cam doesn't even have half that experience and people are crying bloody murder about how terrible he is.


Variance. Helter skelter. Fits and starts.

That is QB development process.

People these days don't have the patience to let these things play out. It isn't just Peyton. It is the vast majority of young QBs. You don't see their stats stabilize until about year 6. Until then it is up and down game to game and season to season.

The kid is still learning. No one should be expecting him to carry a team at this point


#3092573 Are there any Rivera defenders left or are we 100% against him coming back?

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 11:53 PM

For pretty much what I said above. Remember in the offseason when Gettleman said there would be growing pains? He knew the holes we were going into the season with so I dont see him faulting rivera for that. When in the history of the nfl was the reigning coach of the year fired? I see the ineptitude with rivera as do many others but you cant deny the fact he was handicapped personnel wise. I'm willing to bet Gettleman is joining Cam/Rivera at the hip and will get one more year to prove their worth here. I hope im wrong but I don't think I am.

That makes sense. I'm not as sure. If this season finishes poorly and Rivera isn't fired fans might revolt.

I hope they don't. I think with a better OC we can be a decent team. So if Rivera stays but most of offensive staff goes, i will likely be okay with that.

The rest of the Panthers fans I'm not so sure


#3092354 Are there any Rivera defenders left or are we 100% against him coming back?

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 09:52 PM

I am still waiting to see how season finishes out.

If the season ended today I would say fire him. I do think we need complete overhaul of offensive staff if he does comes back next year.

I am not going to defend him very hard though.


#3092025 What makes you feel better after another pathetic loss ?

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 07:35 PM

I love pie!!

I don't have a good answer.

Sometimes I get on Madden and beat the computer by 70 points


#3091990 Cam outplayed Peyton Manning today

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 07:28 PM

Remember when people said they didn't care what Cam did in quarters 1-3 but what he did in the 4th.

Times have changed I guess


#3091663 Consider this...the Bucs are right on our heels

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 05:48 PM

Hey, fug it. If we don't win the division might as well finish last. Makes next season's schedule a whole lot easier with AFC South and two NFC last place teams on the schedule


#3091575 "To win the game"

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 05:26 PM

 

The Observer writes:

 

...Rivera said the strategy was to force Atlanta to try to come back without timeouts.

“We forced them to use timeouts,” Rivera said. “If we get the first down, great, if we don’t we kick the field goal and kick off, and they have to go with no timeouts.... 

 

There is nothing to add. SMH! Speechless!

 

 

The thing is you can still do that and give yourself a chance for a first down.

 

You don't have to go tight and run it up the middle




#3091405 I don't mind playing for a FG there, but....

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 05:02 PM

I have no problem just playing for a FG down 2 with 1:30 (or so) left.  In the NFL you should be able to count on your kicker making a FG.

 

Here is my problem.  I have no issue with first and second down calls.  You don't want to throw a pick while in FG range down by two.  I get all that.  Plus you make Atlanta use their timeouts making a comeback more difficult.

 

Here is where I have an issue.  They playcall on 3rd down gave us virtually no chance to get a first down.

 

Why line up tight and run the ball right up the gut on 3rd and 5?  Why not playaction bootleg with a run pass option for Cam.  Get him to the outside.

 

Maybe that QB draw we used to run.

 

Or if you want to run the ball up the middle, spread the defense out.  Make them cover the guys in the slot and unclog the LOS.

 

Going with a tight formation and running the ball up the middle has very little chance of succeeding.

 

If you bootleg Cam WORST case scenario he takes a sack and instead of 44 yard field goal you have a 49 yard field goal.  That is WORST case scenario.  Gano has plenty of leg to make 49 yard FG so there wouldn't be much of a difference.

 

If you get the first down, you can run out the clock and have an easier FG with no time on the clock.  If you don't nothing ventured nothing gained.  They still have to use a timeout and it is same result as if you ran it up the middle.

 

The problem isn't playing for a FG.  I have no problem with that.  My problem is, if you are playing for a FG,  then why the playcalling that doesn't even have a chance at a 1st down and then kick the FG with no time left.

 

I just don't get it.  This is a coaching staff and team that is playing and coaching scared right now.  They are hoping that other people gift them a win.  You have to go out there and take it in the NFL.

 

/rant




#3091286 If Cam Sucks...Then

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 04:48 PM

Guy playing hurt, and led the team and giving them a chance to win 3 times at the end of the 4th is the problem?

 

I remember a couple of years ago the argument was you didn't care what he did for 3 quarters, only the 4th mattered.  Now it is the opposite.

 

How convenient.  GTFO




#3091264 We can't keep Ron Rivera or Mike Shula heading into bye week after that

Posted by teeray on 16 November 2014 - 04:45 PM

Shula has to go.  He just does.  Yeah Cam didn't play great for 3 quarters and his WRs didn't help anyone out.

 

But I mean, you have to do something different.  Draw up a gadget play.  Do anything!!

 

You got to do something to manufacture some life into the offense when guys are struggling.

 

It just isn't working, and I don't think Rivera knows it.

 

 

 




#3087615 Another "suck it" game to Kemba haters...

Posted by teeray on 15 November 2014 - 08:45 AM

If you think Kemba sucks you should stop discussing basketball in public. You may not realize how foolish you sound.

The way some of you guys talk about Kemba and Big Al just got me smh


#3087489 Hornets vs Suns Game Thread.

Posted by teeray on 14 November 2014 - 11:37 PM

There is a reason I avoid the game threads. I shouldn't have read thru it lol

It is amazing how many bitch about clearly the best two players on the team.

Also after reading that you would think PJ Hairston were Kobe Bryant.


#3087014 Did Cam call players meeting?

Posted by teeray on 14 November 2014 - 06:00 PM

Decoud said Cam addressed the team after the last game. Apologized for his play, vowed to play better, and urged a turnaround


#3086777 Steve Logan absolutely nails it about Cam Newton and Panthers

Posted by teeray on 14 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

Points 1-4 are fixable with better coaching, namely a bonafide OC that schemes to showcase his strengths and QB coach dedicated to working on his mechanics. Points 5 & 6 come with experience and good team around him. Steve Logan's commentary was on point. No one can deny the kid has talent. Cam Newton is a two-time Pro-Bowler and recording setting QB  in only his 4th year in the NFL. He's easily the best QB this franchise has ever had. No reasonable, knowlegdeable, unbiased fan would believe his skills or talent have suddenly disappeared or he's being exposed as no good. What's the difference? Terrible OL, which translates to a subpar running/passing game, WRs that can't get consistent separation and crappy playcalling due to imcompetence and the aforementioned issues. Fix these areas and suddenly this pointless debate becomes moot. He may never be in the elite status of a Manning or Brady, but he's the best QB this francishe has ever seen and the Panthers will be the laughingstock of the NFL if they foolishly cut him loose w/o making efforts to build a competitive team around him.

 

Proof that Marguide's post was perfect in every way