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What percentage is it Cam's Fault?

06 December 2014 - 12:20 AM

As I'm moderating the big Panther group on FB. I'm going through threads and then this topic comes up.


What percentage is it Cam's fault, how much should he be held accountable for the Panthers fall from grace?



Personally, I do not blame Cam that much, I'd say at least in the teens would be his fault. 

Most of the problem here is the previous regime's screwed up contracts that got things started badly. No money to sign real talent, even with the Hardy tag, which at the time was more of a 'smart' move, even though I had my doubts. There were a select few of fans that thought about letting Hardy walk and using the tag money to make the offensive line better. The secondary better, and along the way if possible, getting one weapon for Cam. Hindsight, right? Hah. 



On paper, Gettleman, over zealously in my humble opinion, tried to hit the jackpot again while scrapping the bottom of the Free Agency Barrel. In all fairness It's the only option he could do at the time since he tagged Hardy. It's understandable, he does have an eye for talent. He literally was leaning on luck once more to make this work. A very wise man once told me that if you have to rely on luck to get things done you're doing things the wrong way. I'll chalk that one up to Gettleman being in his second year as a GM. He has done wonders for his first year. Maybe overachieving as well. At the current time frame, it looks like it was an overachieving year last year. 


Gutting the WR corp and adding sub par talent, not the best way to help your franchise QB, but by the logic of the answer being the roster, you could argue that it was the correct move. Cutting Steve Smith, to me wasn't a huge loss. As you can see after our game, Smith has disappeared. A bit of a Ghost, but, that has nothing to do with this team. Adding veterans and seeing what we had in UDFAs  was all he could do. I do not fault our GM for that. 


The never ending Offensive line carousel. This is one of the huge faults. Losing your franchise Left Tackle to retirement you can't stop, but you can try to replace. At least with someone with half the talent. Well that didn't happen. The answer was in the roster. The draft came and well according to Gettleman, no one was good enough to put in that spot. Which is why we kept the course with Mr. Byron Bell. Wharton not being there, really a JAG but he was a serviceable one. Getting Trai turner was a godsend to be honest, a break in a way. But alas, the injury bug. It seems that is a huge factor to this lines woes. But, many clubs have the same thing happen but their lines are average, it's literally the next man up mentality that is implemented by the coaching staff. For example, the Cardinals. Too many pieces in order to gel together wasn't going to happen. Not this year anyway. The silver lining is that with the injuries, you can see the next man up. Norwell is looking like a staple, Remmers is promising as well, even after one game. 


The once mighty stable of Running backs that put on a clinic on Sundays, has literally become a clinic. They are not healthy and they are grossly overpaid. It's sad that this group is getting more money than the offensive line unit, which makes everything work, the run game, the pass game, everything. Thanks Hurney.



The defense was the most perplexing though. Essentially losing hardy has put it in retard mode. I guess it's a wake up call to how much of a difference Hardy made on this team. He was literally the engine of that Defense, he made it go. Right now it is a shallow core of its former formidable self. Another reason why this team plain sucks. They can't stop a nosebleed. The secondary is sporadic at best. The pass rush is non existent. The Line backing corp is the best part of the unit. 


The special teams unit has been horrible since Ted Ginns departure. Another reason he was more than just a WR. The field advantage he brought to the table helped so much. Another thing that helps the offense and the QB.


I believe the biggest losses this team had that were the Catalyst of this terrible season are the loss of Jordan Gross, the exclusion of Greg Hardy, and the departure of Mike Mitchell and Ted Ginn. The rest were non-factors. Losing them hurt more than anything. There are sub departures that left ripples in this seasons puddle of suckage. LaFell, even with his mediocre play he was reliable, but not a huge loss. Steve smith with his fire and passion, that lacked in recent years until he was let go was only rekindled because of stubbornness and the inability to realize that- You're old bro. Get over it. 


The Coaching Staff. This is where I believe, if we were talking about pie charts, the hugest chunk would belong to the "Why we suck." pie chart. 


The offensive coordinator position. I honestly don't know what happened. Shula in the previous year, as play calls are concerned, were average. Then, all of a sudden, he forgot how to play call. The miscues, the running plays on passing downs, the same 3 plays over and over again. The misuse of the weapons we had, even if they weren't many, but we have them. The lack of urgency in certain situations. I could go on for day with how oblivious he is and the play calling is that of a high school coach. We were warned from the start, by that famous MFCEO. (Hi Jeremy! :3)


Defensive coordinator took a step back, I can't help but wonder if it is really just because of Hardy missing and the aggressive styling of Mitchell. Hardy was the best Run stopping DE we had, we can't stop the run. Hardy was versatile, so much that he played Tackle in certain packages, opening up the defense and the pass rush. Mitchell got to sit back and make plays. Very good plays. His strengths were against the run as well. Decoud and Harper...hah. Not so much.  Why Melvin White was not kept as a starter is beyond me. Having Cason in there after his missed tackles, getting burned every other play does not make sense. The soft zone schemes though, with Cason? WTF. You have


Finally the Coach himself. River boat Ron. That ship has sailed buddy, you've lost the locker room. Your bonehead play decisions, no sense of urgency. You don't seem to understand how to work a clock. You don't run the ball when you are down by more than two possessions! You are not Leading the game you're trailing. You even quit your gambling persona. You're not 'Riverboat' Ron anymore, you're 'Denial River' Ron. It's the state of mind Mr. Rivera has been in since game 5. 



All the ailments this team has endured that seem to be brushed aside and the question keeps getting asked by fans and the media alike, 'Why has Cam Regressed?" "What's wrong with Cam?", "How much is this Season, Cam's fault?". Well, I'd say very little. I'd have to say the wrong questions are being asked. 


To be fair, he has his faults. He over throws. He hangs on to the ball too long. Happy feet. Cam Newtons throwing mechanics and footwork are the only faults that I see that contribute to this season. Over throwing and not stepping into his throws. I hold him accountable for things he can control. 


Not having time to throw, not having receivers run the right routes. Not having them get open. Dropped balls when they were placed in the right spot. Running for his life or having the protection stop, Linemen not pick up the right assignments and letting defenders waltz right to him. Having, apparently, a limited number of plays that are being called during the game leading to constant 3 and outs. Players being injured and not being healthy. The defense not being able to make stops when needed. That's not Cam's fault. 


If I could put a percentage, I'd say this is probably 5% Cam's Fault. This is a team sport after all. This team is no playing as such, not like last year. Last year was a perfect storm. 


Despite all this, the future does look bright, Gettleman being able to do more with more cap space is a very intriguing notion to daydream about. The possibilities endless. Sometimes you have to take a couple steps back before taking a huge jump forward. Is the draft here yet?

Let all your feels out, musical version.

10 November 2014 - 10:53 PM

Cus this is going to be a long season...





Jeremy.. I am eating crow right now, fajitas actually.

31 October 2014 - 01:10 AM

I remember you saying Shula was not going to get us anywhere. I went against you, I realize how wrong I was. Shula is holding this team back from scoring like a hot chicks fat jealous girlfriend...

Just a small observation I believe some of you may have seen as well?

30 October 2014 - 10:38 PM

Cam's arms strength. I believe is his greatest strength yet at the same time his bigges weakness. 


Cam has no touch. He doesn't put air under his throws. That's the missing piece to him. There were so many throws that I saw in this game that if he would have added a bit of touch, this game would have been 31-28. Other times he rifles his throws in that receivers can't get a good shot. 


There were two KB end zone incomplete catches that should have been TD's. One where it should have been an over the shoulder fade, he threw right at the defender, like he was trying to gun that throw in there. The other one was a middle of the end zone throw where if he would have thrown it ahead of Benjamin, doesn't matter how fast really, instead of high and over his head without proper time to adjust, could have been a TD. 


What's the root cause of these errant throws? He hasn't been the best passer, his stance was mediocre, his footwork as well. Which we all knew he was in his Auburn days. Now, we know that it was because of his foot injury that was repaired. Well, was it because of that? 


His foot has been repaired, he is still throwing a 6'5 35" long armed, 240 pound mammoth of man with hands the size of bear paws. I am not sure what to make of this. It could be his rhythm. He was off all night, we know he has off nights. But tonight was one of his worse.


I can't say the next game will be a win. We all know how this team is after a bye week, since essentially they don't play until November 10th. Which is almost a bye week. Things are looking bleak. I can't say I am optimistic at this moment in time. This game was too important to lose, scratch that, the past three weeks it has been. I'm having flashbacks of 2011. Except we are getting blown out. I won't go into draft talk just yet, but I am becoming numb after this mediocre performance. 

Am I seriously the only one excited to see our new LT in Action?

30 October 2014 - 04:52 PM

Seriously, the doom and gloom in this place is annoying as fug. But in all seriousness. 


All of you bitch so much about Bell and even make jokes about how some of you can do a better job, why are you still whining about Foucault starting at LT and how cam will have to run for his life? Give the Canadian a chance, he's huge, nimble and has had some time in that slot in past games, albeit to 3rd stringers. Still, the Saints D isn't scaring anymore. This is a good opportunity for him to seize the moment and take the spot from Bell. 


I for one am glad they are trying everyone out. LT's don't grow on trees but sometimes you do get fortunate and find one. 



Hoping for the best. 

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