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twylyght

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In Topic: Climate Risk: Worst is Yet to Come

09 April 2014 - 03:10 PM

You must really enjoy your arguments with bloombergofthesouth?

 

I think I'm done with this place.  It's pretty clear the evidence that people want to hear and what evidence they'll ignore.  I used to think that "the proof is in the pudding" would eventually win out.  More and more, I find out that within a lifetime, marketing has become the new king.  Republicans and Democrats have perfected the system by playing both sides of a coin and offering it as the only choices from which to choose.

 

Like much of what I've come to find out, some of the most intelligent people I've encountered are some of the stupidest people I've known.  For all of our "knowledge" the greatest need for a scientist is no longer science/knowledge, but something to feed their egos.  For that, you have to have a "worthy cause" to invest in, and then commit to it with varying degrees irrespective of how it circumvents the scientific method.  What this latest cause has become is little more than religious zealotry to feed the new pope's opportunistic monetary and power grabs.

 

In the meantime... so many people will keep holding their collective breaths for this climate catastrophe and eventually jump ship when the next chic Armageddon for them to "know about before anyone else" comes along.

 

"Try blue.... it's the new red"


In Topic: Climate Risk: Worst is Yet to Come

04 April 2014 - 01:39 PM

 
Did you even try to understand what I said? Here, I'll post it again.
 
 
Let me try to explain this another way.  If you are judging over 10,000 papers position on AGW, you are probably going to mislabel some.  The paper tried to account for that by emailing authors and asking them to classify their own paper's position on AGW.  You cant just complain about how bad a paper is and ignore half the results section.
 
If you want to criticize the paper, there are absolutely some things you can criticize it for.  Namely, it it does not use the same level for consensus than the IPCC claims.  An example of good criticism (from the article you already linked to)

Now I havent read the IPCC report, but if people use the Cook report to support the idea that most climate scientists believe 90+% of recent warming is anthropogenic, that would certainly be a misrepresentation of the paper's findings. Of course the paper makes it clear what threshold it uses, so you cant hold the paper up as a fraud if other people misrepresent its conclusions

 

This is the people that have used the Cooke report in the way that it has been represented:

http://www.carolinah...come/?p=2725551

 

 

Hence, my response (though Jase hit the topic first):

http://www.carolinah...come/?p=2725984

 

Which prompted your response in its complicity of the misrepresentation of said statistic:

http://www.carolinah...come/?p=2726059

 

All of which came long after the very point I made about how said people misrepresent said data:

http://www.carolinah...come/?p=2724394

 

All this while Nanuq (who all of a sudden lost comprehension of hyperbole) continues to prove this very point by not even acknowledging the fallibility of a few data points that stood out, much less any nuance (summarily dismissed on little more than ad hominem).


In Topic: Climate Risk: Worst is Yet to Come

04 April 2014 - 04:05 AM

so...... another computer model providing best-guess scenarios.... global climate only pertains to the northern hemisphere.... consideration of grant monies are irrelevant, but oil profits are driving all opposition research... only the last 1000 years constitutes "the big picture" when considering what a baseline should be...

 

enter scare tactics implying that the earth has never been hotter than it is now for the duration of its existence, much less human occupation


In Topic: Climate Risk: Worst is Yet to Come

04 April 2014 - 01:51 AM

If and when it is debunked with actual scientific evidence from credible sources, I will be happy to admit it.

 

One thing is for sure, it will take more than half baked industry propaganda from questionable sources to convince me. 

 

Till then, I'll be sticking with the opinions of 97% of the climatologists on this issue.

 

Sure... wherever they stand for now....

 

btw - how far along are we on that hockey stick prediction?


In Topic: Climate Risk: Worst is Yet to Come

04 April 2014 - 01:25 AM

It's on you if you're intent on keeping faith with a study that has been debunked on it face.  You're not too late for scientology if you want to jump on that bandwagon too


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