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#2248317 Scott Fowler writes a Gross article.

Posted by rayzor on 02 June 2013 - 07:50 AM

good read. i love the guy, esp. lately. i get a feeling that this year may be his last hurrah, tho. retirement is just around the corner.


fwiw, i loved what he said about being a captain and fully believe its the case with any leader.....you exude confidence to others, even when you lack it yourself. this is kind of aimed a bit at cam, but it's usful to think about for any leader at work or at home...it's fine that he and others wear their hearts on their sleeve, but that isn't necessarily a good trait in a leader. you have to sometimes betray the emotions you're feeling for the benefit of others. you have to essentially become shallow and even hypocritical and you do it for the good of the team.


it doesn't matter if you think it's all falling apart and there's nothing you can do about it. it doesn't matter if you're discouraged...it's up to you, as a person that others look up to, to help make them feel better about their chances and help make them courageous. the number one job of a leader is to make the people around them do better and do more and a  large part if that is inspiration, and you can't inspire when you act defeated.

#2247925 Smitty's OTA observations

Posted by rayzor on 01 June 2013 - 03:53 PM

pretty good stuff about the secondary, tho.

#2247924 Smitty's OTA observations

Posted by rayzor on 01 June 2013 - 03:52 PM

we're deep at WR, but, as someone pointed out in the million.2 discussions about WRs in the draft: just because it's deep, doesn't mean they're good.



#2247921 Smitty's OTA observations

Posted by rayzor on 01 June 2013 - 03:50 PM

"which WR is looking good?"

"ummmm....we've got some TEs that are pretty good."



#2247892 I think a strong case could be made for signing Brandon Moore

Posted by rayzor on 01 June 2013 - 03:23 PM

maybe we can pick up more and use our fourth rounder on quinton patton?


what....too late?



#2247169 Cam wants the "C" per Person

Posted by rayzor on 31 May 2013 - 03:33 PM

actions speak louder than words. If he wants to be a captain he needs to earn it. 


we're arguing about semantics though, no way he unseats Gross or Smitty. 


did he say anything different? that he didn't need to earn it?


and why wouldn't he unseat one of those? it's quite possible that the players could vote him in as captain if he cranks it up a notch this offseason.


it's possible, that's all i'm saying...and that he's not the immature brat you described him to be.

#2247126 Cam wants the "C" per Person

Posted by rayzor on 31 May 2013 - 03:04 PM

grits is that you?

#2247110 Cam wants the "C" per Person

Posted by rayzor on 31 May 2013 - 02:54 PM

There are no less than 7 threads on the front page about Newton. Luke will be more important to determining our success this season than Newton. Defense will be more important than offense.


Who cares what Cam and the offense is doing. They won't determine wins and loses next year.


I don't understand how our front office can spend the entire off-season and resources in defense...retain our defensive Head Coach...lose our offensive coordinator...make no upgrades to Cam's weapons on the Outside...


And media and fans alike spend countless hours on what Cam Newton is doing.


Who cares. Cam and Shula should be focused on how to stay out of the way of our talented defense.



#2246911 Free Pie...

Posted by rayzor on 31 May 2013 - 12:08 PM

i'm hungry.

#2246684 Scott Fowler: Wins are Cam's litmus test this year

Posted by rayzor on 31 May 2013 - 08:57 AM

I will have the last word because you are being fuging retarded. It wasn't a "big deal" for you to comment on us not talking about something relevant to the conversation.  Feel free to keep chiming in your two cents of why people shouldn't be talking about something when you are telling me not to do the same to you.  You have done this with multiple people and you still aren't getting the hint?

watch out or he'll start talking about your big ego.


i've got the clown on ignore now because of what you wrote and my inability to remember any comment that he makes about football or the panthers. it's usually some commentary on his perception of what someone is saying and it usually has to do with them "obsessing" or being "butthurt" or something like that. it's just not worth the effort and it's not even interesting anymore. i swear it's worse than trying to discuss stuff with pffl because even with him and guys like him there was some football element to it. with this guy it's just trying unsuccessfully to act superior.

#2246393 Why is Shula simplifying the offense?

Posted by rayzor on 30 May 2013 - 09:34 PM

Wouldn't using one word also drastically reduce the number of plays available?

no. why would it?


same number of plays, except in using 5-7 words/numbers to call the play they use just one. each player knows their responsibilities for each play, regardless of how long the call is. traditional play calling would have assignments for different players given in the play call itself, but it's all the same "play" in the playbook. instead of the player memorizing the “slant left 787 check swing, check right” or "896 H-Shallow F-Curl" pages from the playbook they just learn one word...like "orange". maybe "orange left", but for the most part every player would have to memorize the same number of plays, or at least their responsibilities for each one.

#2246074 Why is Shula simplifying the offense?

Posted by rayzor on 30 May 2013 - 05:13 PM

Think about it. Chud didn't have extra long terminology for the plays, just lots and lots of variations on the plays. How do you cut down the terminology without cutting down the number of play variations available.

with the same mindset chip kelly and other stripped down verbiage coaches/teams have done...like the pats started doing this last year with the help of chip kelly.


here's a

really good read about the transition to one word, simplified verbiage approach that the pats have been incorporating.

When the Patriots’ offense is at its best and running roughshod over opponents — like getting out to a 31-7 lead in Sunday’s 31-21 victory over the Broncos — it’s when they are going with the fast version of their no-huddle offense.

And against the Broncos, the Patriots ran it faster than ever. It was breathless with 89 offensive plays (second in team history for a non-overtime game since they had 94 in a 28-10 loss to the Steelers in 1989) and a franchise-record 35 first downs, the eighth-highest total in league history.


The NFL never has seen anything like it, and it may never be the same.


How did the Patriots run the offense that fast? What was the key?

One word.


Not one word to describe it.

The Patriots operate their no-huddle attack most often using one word as the play call.

More accurately, they use six one-word play calls a game.

That word tells all 11 players on offense everything they need to know.


Blocking scheme.

Direction on run plays.

Routes for receiver on passing plays.

Shifts in formations.

Snap count.

Possible alerts and play alterations.

One word.


“I think the point of it is to try to get everyone going fast,” quarterback Tom Brady said recently. “So as fast as you can get the communication to your teammates, everyone can be on the line of scrimmage, then the better it is.”




The Patriots, like other NFL teams, have decreased play calls for emergency situations down to one word. “Clock” is used by everyone for a spike to stop the clock, and each player knows where they are supposed to line up. The Patriots expanded that for other plays needed in a pinch.


“A lot of times it was situational,” Belichick said. “Like we were in the hurry-up and you have to get the ball out of bounds, whatever it is. But sometimes we’ve had that where one play means this is where we line up, this is the play we run, this is the snap count it’s on, and we’re going to either try to catch the defense off balance or we don’t have time to have a big conversation about this. It’s line up, snap the ball, and we’re running a sideline route to get the ball out of bounds or something like that.”


But that was the extent of the Patriots’ quick verbiage with shortened play calls.


Why didn’t anyone think of taking the next step to extend those calls to an entire offense?


Well, Hall of Fame coach Bill Walsh did. In his seminal out-of-print book Finding the Winning Edge published in 1998 — Belichick has called it the coaching bible — Walsh had a section on page 308 titled, “Determining the Future Dynamics of Offense in the NFL.”


First bullet point: “Teams will huddle only when the clock is stopped.”


Second: “Teams will use single-word offensive audibles.”




If you want to see what’s next on the pro level, look to the colleges. That’s what Belichick does, with his alliances with coaches such as Nick Saban (LSU and Alabama), Urban Meyer (Florida and Ohio State) and, now, Kelly.

That’s why when Kelly walked into Gillette Stadium two years ago — and he’s been there three times total — ears perked up among the Patriots’ coaches, including Belichick.


Kelly had become friendly with former Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien while both were rising in the college ranks. The UNH coaching staff would visit Brown, where O’Brien was coaching, for pickup basketball games and to talk X’s and O’s.


Kelly told the Patriots he was moving to a no-huddle that only used one word to signify everything involved in a play.

Sideline calls take too long. Wristbands too.


One word is all that is needed.


“The things they’re doing now, they’re even faster,” Dickson said. “They have things where they can call one thing and it’s going to tell them formation, plays, everything, and all you have to see is coverage.”


The collective Patriots’ response to Kelly’s assertion was, basically, “You run an entire offense like that? How do you get the players to comprehend that?”


Kelly declined to be interviewed, but those with knowledge of the discussion said Kelly laid out his rationale.

Players memorize thousands of words in songs, hundreds of movie lines, and many other things involving pop culture.


Why can’t players have instant recall of a handful of concepts? Heck, everybody knows No. 2 on a McDonald’s menu gets you a Quarter Pounder, medium fries, and a drink.


“It’s kind of easy,” Dickson said. “It comes with repetition. A lot of guys learn different. Myself, I just needed to be out there repping those plays. The more comfortable you get, the faster you’ll go. He wants to make it easier to where you’re not thinking about anything, you’re just going fast. Make it as simple as guys can learn it so you can go really fast. That’s the key, making it simple for your players so they can play at top speed.”


Kelly’s overall message to the Patriots: Don’t put a limit on your players’ minds; they will learn whatever you teach them.


“I was interested to hear how he did it,” Belichick said. “I would say he expanded it to a different level and it was very interesting to understand what he was doing. Certainly I’ve learned a lot from talking to Chip about his experiences with it and how he does it and his procedure and all that.”




Simplified play calls are all the rage on the college level, where O’Brien has transferred the Patriots’ package — dubbed “NASCAR” at Penn State — to the Nittany Lions, who ran 39 plays in just more than a quarter to erase a 28-17 deficit to defeat Northwestern, 39-28, Saturday.


That previously mentioned lengthy West Coast play call? It’s the same one ESPN analyst Jon Gruden threw at former Auburn quarterback Cam Newton on his QB Camp television special.


Newton was at a loss to equate an Auburn play to an NFL play. Newton was ridiculed nationally because critics thought it showed that Newton couldn’t handle a pro offense.


But what people didn’t realize at the time was Newton’s subsequent answer, when Gruden talked about Auburn using the no-huddle a lot, was actually more telling.


“Our method is ‘simplistic equals fast,” Newton said. “It’s so simple as far as, you look to the sideline [and] you see ‘36’ on the board. And that’s a play. And we’re off.”


What people didn’t get, because the NFL is slow to evolve, is that Newton was actually showing them a glimpse of the future.


The NFL is a copycat league, so only when someone with job security — like Belichick — tries something new and it works does it spread across the professional ranks.


Belichick has learned that if it’s going on in college, then it’s coming to the NFL. That’s the talent pool, and you should accentuate the strengths and minimize the weaknesses of that talent.


more: http://www.bostonglo...rN6J/story.html

#2245730 Why is Shula simplifying the offense?

Posted by rayzor on 30 May 2013 - 09:42 AM

streamline the focus, streamline the verbiage,  streamline what goes on from play to play.


do whatever it takes to get the ball out quicker and get more plays off. i want this team to adopt the no huddle-hurry up offense and make use of this QBs improvisational skills and get this offense to wear out opposing defenses quicker and make it harder for defenses to adjust and adapt to what they do. 


i'd love to see this team streamline the formations they use and alter every  play to start off from just a handful of formations. this would cut out the amount of time needed to set up and make it harder for defenses to diagnose what the offense was up to.


speed and endurance kills. you want to dictate what the other team's defense does? you control the pace and make it impossible for teams to keep up.

#2245039 Kugbila Game Footage: Is he worth the 4th round pick?

Posted by rayzor on 29 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

Also, its not like he will be going up against scrubs in practice to get better. He will be facing some talented D linemen every day to help improve.

totally agreed, tho as i said i think smaller speed rushers will probably be able to juke around him and make him bite on a fake and we really don't have anyone on the team that fits that mold, at least not from what i recall anyway, so that might still be an area that he needs to work on.


for the most part, tho, the guys he is going to be facing, esp. within the NFCS, aren't really any better than the guys he's going to be facing in practice. any kinks that should be worked out will have ample opportunity to get worked out.

#2244894 Kugbila Game Footage: Is he worth the 4th round pick?

Posted by rayzor on 29 May 2013 - 12:09 PM

If we had a huge cache of picks like the 49ers, Kugbilla as a 4th might not be that big a reach. But we had 5 picks so each one was critical. Was it a reach based on the game video you posted? Sure. But I think every other pick was gold. Hangartner can play until Kugbilla either gets it or doesn't.

i would rather have gone for patton in the 4th and picked up an RG in FA, but with that said, i don't see him in the fourth really as a reach. i don't know what games got posted, but i watched a lot of them and he seemed as solid as you would want an OG to be. i don't care where he went to school, he's as good as any OG you're going to find mid round.


he may not be the most technically sound, but as far as the size/mass, speed, power, and awareness, he has the things that can't really be coached and watching from year one to year two i saw a guy who is very coachable, and you can't really ask for a whole lot more where we got him.


i do think, tho, that hangman will probably be the starter at RG week one and maybe even through the half point in the season, but unless hangartner really turned the corner and the OL is really clicking i would be surprised to see him finish the season as the starter. at the very least they are going to be adding more responsibility each week without throwing him in as starter...at least that's what i would do. who knows? they might just throw him in the fire the way they did silatolu and let him earn his lumps.


i do think that kugbila will be a quicker and smoother transition to the pro-level than what we saw with silatolu, esp. if there is no changes in the guys on either side like amini had to deal with. this was silatolu's first time as OG. kugbila has been playing RG for a couple years now. he should have a good base to work from.