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rayzor

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#2194162 Short and concise thought on the Draft, FA, Trades, and the BPA

Posted by rayzor on 13 April 2013 - 05:03 PM

fill holes via FA or trades and get the best talent in the draft.

if you draft to answer needs, aside from maybe QB, you are likely going to be reaching and very well could be missing out on opportunities to get great players.


#2193868 Which need can/can't be overlooked during the draft?

Posted by rayzor on 13 April 2013 - 06:56 AM

i think their view of FA has been to use it to address needs and holes. just because they haven't done much at DT and nothing so far on the OL doesn't mean they aren't going to. there's still a lot of time in FA left and several waves of FA. once the draft comes there's going to be more FA OL and DTs hitting the streets. i think gettleman will take advantage of that.

they don't want to be in a position where they HAVE to take any position in the draft. and i don't think they will be viewing it that way this year. they won't be using this draft to address needs. some needs might be addressed, but i doubt they have this idea that they will be going in and selecting the best RG or whatever regardless of who else is on the board at that point. if RG (just an example) is seen as a must have, but none on the board at that moment is better than other players they are looking at who play different positions then RG would be passed up. i think that's the thing that happened last year. they would have liked to draft a DT, but there was never any good enough to pass over more talented people in their eyes.

that said,

i think OL will be overlooked or at least won't be drafted until late.

i think that CB will be overlooked, and i'd be fine with that.

i think with that increased competition brought in by hixon and ginn that WR would be better than last year and ok if they didn't draft WR, but i think the goal from the FO is to be better than 'ok' at WR. i'd be surprised if they passed that up. they obviously think it's a priority.

i think that safety and NT are positions that should be addressed in the draft. i really don't think that they should pass up either of those, but if there's no right guy at the right spot i'll be disappointed, but ultimately ok with it.

i don't think there is really any position that i'd be pissed we passed over, tho. maybe surprised, but not pissed. ok...maybe WR (just a little) but it just depends on who else they draft.


#2193131 Is Julius Peppers the greatest player in Panthers history?

Posted by rayzor on 12 April 2013 - 01:11 PM

Johnson can't hold Peppers jock strap, sorry.

not sure the desire is there. it's obviously there for you, tho. your mouth seems quite attached to his nether regions.

as far as being better...CJ has been more effective the past couple years. he's shown to be more dominant. and he's more consistent in his effort than peppers has been in years.

peppers is a punk and he's overrated. he's living and getting paid on on past glory while CJ is doing work.

julius peppers is essentially kerry collins.

a quitter.


#2190786 Interesting interview with Mike Tannenbaum on Sirius today.

Posted by rayzor on 10 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

I agree,. Cam needs more weapons.
Just not at the cost of reaching for one in the first. I don't see any offensive weapons in the draft that will be BPA at our pick.

tbh, i odn't see any position that really shines above all the rest after the first handful of prospects are gone.

it would be just as much of a reach going for pretty much any position at that point. there's just not a whole lot of seperation between what you'd find at 14 thru 44. from the mid first round thru pretty much the end of the second there just isn't a ton of seperation of talent. not a whole lot of top end/elite talent, but still a lot of very good players.

we wouldn't be any worse off drafting a WR at 14 than we would any other position we're seriously considering.


#2188870 Bucs' offer for Revis: 1st, 3rd, 6th & ~$15mil py long term cont...

Posted by rayzor on 08 April 2013 - 01:04 PM

You said it much better than I would have. We really could have beaten them twice, right along with the Falcons.

If we handle our business, I know we can hang with anyone in this league.

we should have.

poor coaching decisions at bad times trusting the wrong people on the field and giving the other team the ball and thus inviting them to score was the big problem. we could have swept both those teams. we should have.

game management could have allowed that to happen. of course, player execution could have as well, but the players aren't the ones who decided to punt and give the other team the ball. the players aren't the ones who took their foot off the gas.

meh.....dead horse beaten enough.

i hope the coaching staff (rivera) learned how to manage end of games better.


#2188861 If we added the contract numbers of all the guys we've signed from other...

Posted by rayzor on 08 April 2013 - 12:59 PM

Word. Couldn't have said it any better

lol agreeing to that just contradicted most the hurney defense stuff you've been spouting this thread.

he's saying that we're doing it now because hurney is gone.


#2187877  2013 NFL draft: Jonathan Cyprien working out for Panthers

Posted by rayzor on 06 April 2013 - 03:58 PM

I'm finding projections from early-mid March of him going in the second round. What did he do to become top 15 now?

its not so much what he did, aside from giving good performances at the senior bowl and combine which drew a lot of attention to him...it's that people have paid more attention to him and realized that his size, speed/agility, vision, tackling, and football IQ, would be a good fit for most teams. it's kind of like with silatolu last year. went kind of unnoticed by many early on, but then you had more and more people notice and that pushed him up the boards.

for small school players, it takes longer to get noticed so there's a bit of a delay in their climb up draft boards. fortunately more people are noticing and are less skittish about taking them...esp. with improved player evaluation and scouting.


#2187691 What happened to the Warmack bandwagons?

Posted by rayzor on 06 April 2013 - 10:20 AM

And i guarantee you those teams arent going deep into the playoffs consistently every year and able to switch Qbs like its nothing as well...........DUDE.

looking back at the OL taken in the first round and who took them the last 10 years...neither the giants nor the colts took one.

the saints, green bay, pats, houston, and falcons have only taken 1 in the first round in 10 years and the one the saints drafted isn't on the team anymore.

the ravens, seahawks, denver, and bears have only drafted 2 in the first round in 10 years.

the steelers and 49ers took 4 and only 3 are with the 49ers still and 2 with the steelers.

comparing OL taken in first vs. second.... there's been 100 OL taken in the first two rounds since 2002. 48 in the first and 52 in the second. 34 of 48 are still active who were taken in the first compared to 33 of 52 in the second. there just isn't that much difference. looking at the 3rd round there have been 53 taken in that time frame and 34 of those are still active so even then it's not that big of a deal and you can find pro-bowlers, all-pro, and even just starters all through those rounds.

point is, teams do just fine without taking OL in the first round. taking more isn't a sign of greatness and it isn't the path to being a perennial contender. it's a path that some teams might use, but not many at all have. it's just not the crucial piece people make it out to be. you can find good value in the 2nd and later and teams usually do.


#2187094 Revis or Star: Would you rather Bucks edition

Posted by rayzor on 05 April 2013 - 02:41 PM

i would strongly encourage that trade.


#2186419 Kiper on Panthers draft

Posted by rayzor on 04 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

I broke out some new material for this one, did it help the staleness of the argument? lmao

its like going out for drives, taking different roads each time to try and make it interesting only to wind up at mcdonalds every time. eventually you're gonna get tired of it.


#2186175 Preseason schedule out; Panthers/Ravens on ESPN.

Posted by rayzor on 04 April 2013 - 03:29 PM

I don't understand why you put the "number" sign before each of those words.

he thinks he's tweeting.


#2185402 Wanna know the cap space anytime..now you can!

Posted by rayzor on 03 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

i had a link for it a few years back and then the nflpa shut off access.

thanks for posting that.


#2185009 Panthers sign Hixon

Posted by rayzor on 03 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

True, but we need that star WR. Hopefully we find one in the draft

we aren't done.

gettleman wasn't impressed with the WR corps as is so he's been adding to the competition with ginn and now hixon. believe it or not, we are now better off than we were. sad? maybe, but still we have improved, but we aren't where we should be.

the addition of hixon and ginn doesn't eliminate the liklihood of us drafting a WR early. he's commited to improving it and it's obvious he believes we need it.


#2184965 Beason in NFL AM

Posted by rayzor on 03 April 2013 - 03:44 PM

Beason made one comment that was not knob slobbering about Cam...and the nut huggers immediately come out to say how everything Beason said was spot on EXCEPT for the comment about something that Cam could work on. The poster I was responding to FLAT OUT said that Beason was WRONG on that account.

i'm assuming you're talking about me since you quoted me and this shows just how much you are talking out of your ass.

i wasn't criticizing beason. i was criticizing how his comments were heard by the poster i was quoting...and others hearing it said the same thing.

beason wasn't saying those were areas that he needed to grow in. he was saying that those were areas that he had demonstrated growth in.

read it again, chump.

From what I have seen:
- Loves Davis and his comeback story, something great to come next season.
- Tough being in injured and watching from the sideline
- How Jerry Richardson is threating his players: family atmosphere in Carolina. Wants to have a relationship with the players but does expect them to play on a high leven. Doesn’t want to play for any other organisation.
- About playing on the outside: he wants to win a ring. Has the ability to play outside. Wants to play with Kuechly ("We can be scary good"), thinks our defense can be the best in the league.
- About Cam as a teammate: he end up setting the bar so high, placing pressure on himself. Cam progressed. Watching Cam was fun.
- Does Cam need to change that language body?: He needs to be a man about it, needs to learn to address the media

- About Rivera: expectations very high. Rivera went throught a tough time, also with lots of injuries
- What do Panthers neet to do to compete NFC South: hit and run from W1

on target with everything except the bolded.

what i took from it was that cam learned/did that. he turned the corner. he improved.

I am in no way making this out to be anything at all. Just a passing comment by Beason on one aspect of Cam.....where his improvement would squash a lot of the unfair media criticism that he has around him.

I did not even pay attention to the comment in the original post that said it....it is that inconsequential.

I was just making fun of the idiots that are now saying how even Beason is wrong and ill-informed about Cam (same ones that come out every time anyone says something even remotely critical of Cam). Nevermind that he knows more about Cam than everyone on this board combined.

now after reading what i quoted and what i originally said (assuming you pulled your head out of your ass long enough to pull that off) was i saying that beason was wrong, or that birre was wrong in his understanding of what beason said?

there's of course two possible answers, but only one of them doesn't involve you being ignorant.


#2184515 Do you agrre with this article on Cam?

Posted by rayzor on 03 April 2013 - 10:11 AM

oh....and can we take the link out of the OP? i don't like giving BR any link juice.




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