it all depends on what capers gives them. if they focus on stopping the run game, we won't have anyone running for 100 yards or even close. thats what teams did last year and what the cards did last week.
it wasn't because we weren't dedicated to the run. it was because defenses forced us out of it. we were forced into trying to beat them through the air. 'zona showed that we have a passing game that now should be respected or at least garners attention that it didn't previously. if the defense focuses in on shutting down the passing game, that opens up the run game and vice versa.
the packers defense is going to have to become very balanced. the key to winning the game isn't one phase of our offense, but in taking advantage of what the packers give us. it may be that we have to go back and forth between the run game and the passing game pretty evenly.
what will give us a win is forcing the packers to respond to what we are doing rather than letting them dictate to us what we do. if we come out running, they won't be able to use 2 downlinemen and allocate all thier resources to shutting down receiving options. if we commit to throwing the ball then they won't be able to stack the box and blitz every down.
who is expecting this kind of performance every week?
get out of here.
we saw for the first time in years incredible play at QB. we saw a freaking exciting game and a guy that we drafted first overall look like a legit stud QB.
it isn't just us. it's the team that is pumped up about what they saw in this kid. he blew away EVERYONE's expectation of what he is capable of.
screw this idea of bringing things back down to earth. it's the first reason we've had to be excited in a couple years. no one is saying playoffs or anything. no one is saying that cam is going to be an all pro this year. no one is saying he's going to be putting up those numbers week after week. no one is saying this is a finished product.
we are pumped because we saw what *could be* a star. that guy that played yesterday *could be* one of the best to ever play the game if that is his starting point. we got a glimpse of what *could be* not what it "will be, but what it *COULD BE* and for the first time in years we have a reason to believe that we *could* be on the brink of something amazing.
could it all be an aberration? sure. but that's the risk of being a fan. sometimes we get our hopes up and that's fine.
we've had ENOUGH reality and being brought down to earth the past couple years.
right now we have a legit reason for hope. right now we aren't being looked at as fools for drafting this kid and starting him right away by the national fickle media. right now we have a reason to be proud and if it only lasts this week...fine. at least we had it.
if you and others want to take the cowards way out and be timid with your hopes...fine, but don't think that your effort to try and bring people down to earth is appreciated. if we get let down again, we' deal with it soon enough. quit trying to let the air out of our balloon.
What's showing is your ignorance. What you said only matters if it was Rivera's decision to bring them here in the first place.
why wouldn't it have been rivera's call or at least why wouldn't he have had a hand in it? they needed help at RG. MJG became available and they moved in. they saw that hangman was available and they moved in on him as the better choice.
MJG was a sure bet as far as being able to acquire. hangman, not so much because he could go wherever he wanted and there were other teams interested. he wanted to come back here.
as has been said by level headed people plenty of times, there is a chance that there is something wrong with the guy, having been let go from not just one, but two teams so far this year. it was worth a shot to see if he could fit the need.
also it is very possible that they just don't want to give him, who will be a backup, guaranteed money so they will pick him back up on monday.
there's no reason to rage. there's no reason to go feeding some kind of "I HATE HURNEY!!!!!!" campaign, unless you just can't control your emotions and you just can't look at a very possible and most likely scenario other than "hurney just thinks with his gut and makes calls based on emotion".
yes 3 300 yard games and 2 player of the week in 7 starts it sounds like your saying he sucks bc he had one bad game every QB in the league has a bad game im just saying he may not be a Manning or Brady but he will be in the same league as a Matt Schaub
it was in an andy reid offense that is made to puff up QB stats. keep on dreaming, tho.
I'm worried about Jeff King. Guy is dangerous
not sure if serious. he's a threat to the ground after he makes a catch and a threat to his pants after taco bell. thats about it.
If this game were in Charlotte, we would still be a 3 point underdog. That's because Kolb (great or not) will probably look great against this defense. They make everyone (even Andy Dalton, a rookie) look good. If Fitzgerald has less than 100 yds and 2 tds, I will be pleasantly surprised.
I know we can double team him and try to make Kolb beat us. But if they get their ground game going (and God knows we've looked weak against the run all preseason) we will have to dedicate 8 in the box and Fitz will have a field day. If they establish the run early, we won't be able to blitz because they will start in with the play action.
THis game is absolutely on our defense because I don't see us scoring more than 20 pts. Holding this Cards offense in week one in Arizona to less than 20 points will be a real accomplishment considering how we looked against the Steelers in that first series.
I would put our number at around 24. If we score 24 points, that should be enough to win this game on the road. When was the last time the Panthers scored 24 points?
Sorry, but I'm a realist. We could make a good game out of it, but I see:
AZ 23 Car 16
so...glass half empty = realist. gotcha.
we are playing against a team that has a horrible oline. that has two guys starting at CB who have never started a game in the NFL and their nickel is known to be one of the worst in the league. they have a sucky defense and there's no way their Dline will do much against gross-wharton-kalil-hangartner-otah. newton will have time and the running game will have holes. he'll have olsen and shockey bailing him out and one of their inexperienced CBs will have to cover smith. they will try to double and maybe triple up smith, but that's only going to bite them in the butt.
their upgrade at QB is overrated and their run game sucks.
our defense will have the benefit of beason back in which will automatically make things tighten up. they will also be using a lot more from the defensive playbook. we have a lot more talent on defense and more intelligence running it than the cards do in their equally new defensive system.
you shut down fitz and they've got nothing. our offense just has too many weapons for that D to deal with.
not guaranteeing a win, but just adding balance to your "realism". the biggest thing the cards have going for them is that it's a home game.
that cards passing game was wildly different... even if Kolb isn't going to be very good, he will be an upgrade from what they had. if our d plays like it did in the preseason this one could be rough.
on the other hand, I'm counting on the fact that it was "just the preseason" and our defensive gurus will show their stuff.
the panther defense will look much better than in preseason.
posted this in another thread, but thought it would make for interesting conversation or at the least would be a good read.
On the video screen, Payton cued up a play from the Saints' 2009 game with the Jets. New York had a left defensive end over New Orleans's right tackle, no one over the right guard, center or left guard, a defensive end over the left tackle and a standup linebacker on the end's right shoulder. Quarterback Drew Brees stood at the line figuring what to do. Linebackers and defensive backs moved around, showing nothing. "And here they come," said Payton. "They knock at the front door with one guy, then shove 10 through the back."
At the snap the Jets flooded the left side with four rushers. Traffic on the line stopped two of them. The others, linebacker Bart Scott and safety Jim Leonhard, steamed around left end. For the Saints, left tackle Zach Strief had to pick up one, and tight end Jeremy Shockey, behind Strief, should have gotten the other. At the moment of truth Leonhard ducked low, taking a wide rush outside, and Strief and Shockey both blocked him. Scott, left free, smashed into Brees, forcing an incompletion. "Win for the defense," Payton said.
The strange 2-3-6 alignment, with no defenders over the three interior linemen, caused the Saints to change their blocking scheme after this game from man to zone on blitzes around the corners. Their name for the new scheme: Jet Stream. Just one more move to try to keep ever-morphing defensive fronts—aren't the Jets supposed to play a straight 3--4?—from wrecking the offense's plans. . . . The biggest myth in football is that your base defense is what you are. The Patriots are known as a 3--4, so they should want a big nose guy and 290-pound defensive ends who play the run first. Right? When New England signed troubled defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, the outcry wasn't so much about Haynesworth's work ethic but about how he'd fit in. Haynesworth hates the 3--4, and Bill Belichick's a 3--4 guy. But is he really? "That's a media fabrication," the Patriots coach says. "There are a lot of different alignments out there. It's the techniques, the fundamentals that you teach your players, more than the 3--4, 4--3 that people say you use."
In fact the Patriots played a 3--4 on just 39.7% of their snaps in 2010, according to game-tape analysis by ProFootballFocus.com. The site counted 29 plays on which New England cornerback Kyle Arrington lined up at defensive end, with his hand on the ground.
The Patriots weren't alone in this public deception. Super Bowl champ Green Bay, another so-called 3--4 team, had just two defensive linemen on the field on 68.6% of its plays, according to Pro Football Focus. "Our guys are used to dropping in coverage," says Packers coordinator Dom Capers. "It's all about picking your spots—when to rush, when to drop. Sometimes it's a little bit faddish, just to show a different front."
"Confusion," said Payton. "That's the word. Football has become the battle of confusion." In 1990, NFL teams threw an average of 483 times a season. That number rose to 540 in 2010. "We're never going back to a running game," says Texans defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. "Now fullbacks run once a year. We're going to stay a passing league." In the '80s the Giants bulked up the middle of their D to stop Dallas's and Washington's strong running games and won two Super Bowls. These days there may be a few games in which an offense runs on 60% of its plays, but far more frequently the ratio is 60% pass, 40% run. To contend with those pass-heavy attacks, defensive architects are changing up, becoming more and more unpredictable. Some of the ways they're doing so:
Varying the fronts to create mismatches. Many teams have started doing what Rex Ryan did as coordinator for the Ravens and now does as Jets coach—flood one gap or blocker with two, three or even four defensive linemen or linebackers. That challenges a quarterback to change his protection call to keep more blockers in. On one play in that 2009 Jets-Saints game, New York showed a heavy rush on the left side; Brees kept a running back in to block ... and at the snap the Jets dropped a lineman and a linebacker from the group into coverage, negating Brees's protection call. "They rushed four but ate up six of our guys," Payton said. "They were able to double two of our receivers without leaving anyone open." http://sportsillustr...944/1/index.htm
there's been a lot of discussion over how things look scary for the defense because of the lack of strength at DT and CB. i think we are weak there, but i don't think that it will snakebite the defense the way many think it will.
the overall defense is strong. it's the scheme and playcalling and their ability to disguise things and confuse the offense that will bring success.
i'm actually not all that worried. we'll be using CJ, hardy, and selvie rotating in the middle and may go with 0 DTs on a good few downs. i read an article recently talking about how many teams are doing some crazy stuff on the dline like that and we've been doing that a good bit for a couple years anyway.
we'll be fine. running downs are the only issue that i am concerned with at the moment, but i just don't see zona running all that much or effectively.
great stuff...but the bolded kind of had me confused.
I am in Chicago on business this week. Just heard a interview with Brown on AM 670. He stated he fully expects to sign witha team next week and that Carolina is atop the list due to his relationship with Obi Ron. The host started to bash Carolina and Brown checked the host showed made love to Beason and to Cam. He said Charlotte was a great place to live. Sounds like he is Panther bound.
people asking about brown doesn't mean any offers were made.
anyway...i actually like godfrey as the nickel covering the slot/middle of the field. he should be a natural fit there. i have always thought he should be playing his natural position and i'm glad he'll get a chance to. when the CB corps are as weak as they are , but the safety position is strong, doing something like this makes sense when you have a safety that is good in coverage.