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#1960603 Les Miles, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 10:35 PM

o please no.

#1960573 Panthers expected to hire outside consultant to run GM search

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 10:19 PM

And I'm friendly as well. I was not pwned... Do you even know what that means? Or were you just excited that someone used a "hip" term and your name in the same sentence?

wel that doesn't sound too friendly at all.

#1960348 Cam Newton needs real competition.

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 07:47 PM

I couldn't prove anything to you dumbfugs even though it's already proven because you would probably let your wife fug Cam and then ask for his autograph.

keep on posting. you're definitely proving your level of ignorance.

#1960303 Panthers expected to hire outside consultant to run GM search

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 07:33 PM

As they should. It's the only approach that makes sense.

i was hoping that they would do somehting like this because i sure don't trust anyone in the organization right now to make the decision, including richardson.

i just have this feeling that the the consultant might end up taking over the GM job. i hope that doesn't happen.

i have one worry, tho...who's going to decide on the consultant?


Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 03:27 PM

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#1959774 If Cam was half the leader that..

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 03:03 PM

how old was jake when he started @ QB?

give cam some time. he's got leadership abilities, esp. natural ones that goes waaaayyyy beyond jake. it's just in the direction he leads them and the direction he takes himself. once he finds his confidence and believes in what we're doing and the team's ability to overcome we'll be seeing him and this team take off.

i don't think we'll have to wait long, tbh.

#1959724 Cam Newton needs real competition.

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 02:39 PM

Sometime's it never comes with experience. First round picks aren't locks to grow and mature and be great. Where are these guys at? In retrospect should they have brought in competition for these guys earlier?

Ryan Leaf.
David Carr.
Rex Grossman.
Kerry Collins.
Jamarcus Russel.
Vince Young.
Brady Quinn.
Matt Leinart.
Joey Harrington.
Jason Campbell.

Not to mention just about every qb in the same draft class as Cam other then Blaine Gabbert has a better record. Christian Ponder is better right now. Ryan Tannehill is winning with the freakin Dolphins.

it depends on their work ethic.

cam's mistakes aren't like all those other guys...esp. guys like ryan leaf, VY, jamarcus russel, and david carr.

lumping all these QBs in together is quite frankly weak, but whatever. you've got a point to make and you're going to be grasping at whatever straws you can find.

many of those guys did have competition, though. VY had collins, leinart had warner, grossman had orton, harrington had garthia, quinn had DA. competition didn't help any of those guys. they just sucked.

ryan leaf was just bad. he was known for having a poor work ethic, just like russel. neither one of those guys had much of anything to offer other than being a big guy with a cannon for an arm....mainly the cannon...and were overrated because of that. they came with very little in the way of a history of working hard or had much to offer in terms of mechanics. teams foolishly thought that the rest could be coached up, even though they had no history of doing that or being receptive to that. leaf was a headcase who cursed out everyone and attacked reporters. russell was more interested in showing off his money than he was earning it. cam has nowhere near the issues that those two had.

david carr and VY were both shell-shocked players for different reasons. carr couldn't handle the pressure on the field and VY couldn't handle the pressure off the field. neither have shown the fighting spirit or the mental toughness that cam has shown. granted, cam needs to grow more there, but both of those guys gave up in one way or another...esp. VY. i doubt either guy would have ever been able to handle the pressure of the game full time which is why you see them on the bench, if they're lucky. cam may have pouted, but he's nowhere near the mess that either one of those two guys are.

harrington was overrated, but still was the victim of being on a very bad team with some of the worst management the league has ever seen (worse than the mess we have here, believe it or not).

quinn was just flat overrated because of where he went to school and who his coach was.

kerry collins problems were that he was a pathetic racist drunk who quit on his team and who never liked it here because of the color of the uniform.

you are reaching for reasons to hate on newton, but keep on, though. it's always funny to see what lengths people's narrow/closedmindedness will go to in trying to drag that guy down into the hole that fellow closed-minded people tried to paint him into before he was drafted.

#1959499 Cam Newton needs real competition.

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 12:35 PM

He needs to quit throwing dumb interceptions (not even the that was close variety) and fumbling in the 4th quarter in close games. His team is playing well enough to win.........then he turns it over with the game on the line. Not one signature 4th qtr drive....not one.

yes. he needs to play better. he needs to handle himself better. all that comes with experience and maturity...not competition.

he also needs to have people playing better around him and coaching the team better.

no one is off the hook, not even cam.

but...competition at QB isn't something that will help nor should it even be considered.

let him grow. help him grow. give him the experience he needs to develop. build around him. THIS is what is needed.

#1959440 Cam Newton needs real competition.

Posted by rayzor on 23 October 2012 - 12:09 PM

cam doesn't need more competition. he's the right guy for the job.

what he needs is more competitive people around him...better players on both sides of the ball, better coaching/playcalling.

it's the same thing any franchise QB needs. they need to be not left on an island to carry the team on their own, esp. at 23 years old.

the team needs more experienced players and coaches and they need a system that doesn't put so much on one guy and limits what he can do when they put it on him.

#1956170 The only way this makes sense....

Posted by rayzor on 22 October 2012 - 10:03 AM

It will not be Polian. The two men hate each other and his star has faded massively.

You want bad drafting and free agency moves? Look at his last five years in Indy.

i'd much rather have someone like cowher or schotty than polian again.

that dude was seriously overrated.

#1955978 New GM options?

Posted by rayzor on 22 October 2012 - 09:24 AM

Probably right. Can't go paying TWO GM salaries now can we. Someone else will assume duties until next season I'm betting. I could be wrong though.

we won't be paying hurney anything. the guy has been working without a contract for a couple years. he's owed NOTHING.

#1955957 wow charles johnson responds to the hurney firing

Posted by rayzor on 22 October 2012 - 09:22 AM

hurney's not responsible for the coaches making bad calls or the players not executing...but he is responsible for the level of actual talent on the team and in the coaching staff and for making them do their jobs.

so...in a round about way hurney is the reason they are losing.

it's not THE solution to turning things around, but it's as good a starting point as any.

#1955852 so now what?

Posted by rayzor on 22 October 2012 - 09:09 AM

i'm happy and terrified all at once with hurney gone.

happy because it should have been done when fox left and now we can go forward finally(hopefully).

but there's still these concerns...

who's going to take hurney's place?

who's going to do the hiring? JR? sorry...love the old guy but i don't exactly trust him personnel-wise and danny morrison is a newb to the NFL.

are we going to be sticking to "the plan" on team building?

just how much of a house cleaning is going to go on?

does this put the panthers in even more of a tailspin and does this effect cam's desire to stick around when it's time for a new contract? can we get the stability and winning culture we should have in the next year or two?

someone hold me....

#1955694 Why not find an interim OC?

Posted by rayzor on 22 October 2012 - 08:47 AM

You are acting like Rivera doesn't review and approve the game plan every damn week.

wasn't he involved more in the offense last year and said that he was going to focus on the defense more this year?

maybe he's given chud a bit too much free reign. either way...not really effective management of his OC.

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