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#1965682 Luke Kuechly

Posted by rayzor on 27 October 2012 - 04:38 PM

He's looked really good. The "best" at this point is pushing it a little.

it's not like cosell is some ignorant hack homer.

#1965478 Bi-Polar

Posted by rayzor on 27 October 2012 - 01:48 PM

that MJ story was the first thing i thought of.

not sure why it matters that a MLB and a QB on the same team hangs out or even likes each other. it's not like they have to be on the same page or anything. still...i don't see them not getting along.

i guess if you've got to create drama and there's not enough for you on the team already this is about as good as any you could think up.

#1965294 So, can we finally start looking forward to Free Agency every year now?

Posted by rayzor on 27 October 2012 - 10:35 AM

^ tl;dr version?


my brain is all over the place this morning.

the new GM doesn't/may not have the luxury of focusing on just the draft and may be pressured to put a winning team together sooner rather than later. that means utilizing FA and even trades to put together a team that can win now.

JR getting nearing the end and a very unhappy fanbase and PSL owners in a time that the team is wanting to renovate the stadium may force the team to focus on winning now and use whatever means/resources are necessary to do it.

i expect we'll be very active and there will also be a lot of turnover. i don't expect it will take years to make this team competitive again..or at least the pressure will be on the GM to make it happen or else his head will roll.

#1965286 So, can we finally start looking forward to Free Agency every year now?

Posted by rayzor on 27 October 2012 - 10:24 AM

It won't take that long for the new GM to take care of the cap situation. Once we're out of the woods on that, then I'm sure free agency will be more active than it has been for the past decade.

it depends on if the GM has a sense of urgency around him in building the team.

with JR having so few years left (i'm assuming) and the losing records of the past few years i have a feeling that the new GM will be pushed to try and build a team that can win now and down the road.

and you have to know that considering the relationship that hurney and richardson has had, the comments that the panthers lockerroom has too few leaders in the lockerroom will be taken seriously and they will do what they can to get leaders back in there and that pretty much means getting more vets on the team.

hurney had too narrow-minded an approach to team building and took too much pride in having so many players on the team...so many starters even that were panther draft picks. he pointed to that as evidence of being successful.

hurney (and probably JR) stressed loyalty to the club by giving big bucks to homebred players. that's admirable and all, having so much loyalty to your employees, but it chooses loyalty to employees over loyalty to your customers, the fans.

as a business, the number one goal is not to make your employees happy, it's to make your customers happy. i think hurney forgot that...or never realized that. it sounds harsh, but employees/players are essentially just commodities and tools used to reach that goal of making customers happy. some will say that the number one goal is to make shareholders happy, but even then it all comes down to the customers. if the customers aren't happy and aren't buying what you're selling then the shareholders aren't going to be happy either.

at any rate...the team doesn't have the luxury of taking a long view the way it has been. it can't be solely focused on building a team for the future the way it has been the last couple years.

hurney let the team get too old under fox, and now he's made the team too young. the new GM has to make this team balanced between the two and he has to make it successful soon or he'll be out the door as well.

i've got this sick feeling in my stomach (well, not really that serious to me) that there is going to be a lot of turnover in the next couple years and coaches, players, and the GM are going to be on a much tighter leash until the team is built to win and brings the wins.

#1965257 Now that Hurney's been fired, have you re-evaluated how you felt about him?

Posted by rayzor on 27 October 2012 - 09:53 AM

Our best young players are Stew, Kalil, and Cam, and Cam needs to get right, and get to work.

Beason is busted, Gamble, Smith, and Gross are all ageing out of their positions, and after that pretty much nothing. Olsen, maybe, just maybe, but he is certainly not elite talent.

i'd throw keuchly in there as well as being one of our best young players. he just may be the best player on defense.

#1965130 Bi-Polar

Posted by rayzor on 27 October 2012 - 01:40 AM


thought this thread was about posters in here.

#1965010 Cam Newton needs to be treated like Alex Smith

Posted by rayzor on 26 October 2012 - 10:13 PM


#1964497 Mike Lombardi has 'inside info' on why Hurney was fired

Posted by rayzor on 26 October 2012 - 02:45 PM

The obvious topic of speculation will be 'who did he want gone?'


Hurney fell on the sword for Rivera? Horrible decision. Admirable, but Rivera was going to be gone regardless... Why not fire him and save your own job? I bet JR wanted it done because players have already complained to him about Rivera.

i think y'all read something differently than i did.

i don't see it as richardson wanting someone gone...just him wanting us to make personnel moves in getting more talent in here. sure, someone would have to be released to make that happen, but i didn't really see it as focusing on people to let go.

i also didn't read it as hurney falling on the sword for rivera either. i saw it as hurney wanting to continue to stay away from FA and maybe not get rivera players he wanted or upgrade at positions he wanted and hurney's reluctance is what finally got him the axe. maybe it was with chud and/or mcdermmott (and i'm not convinced that the improvement in the D this year was because mcD turned things around, rather it's rivera having more of a say in what's going on like he said he would this year).

just a lot of reading between the lines that we will probably never know or at least won't know until much later.

right now i'm just going to take it at face value that JR still wasn't happy with how the team was put together and that hurney was more just trying to stick to his "plan" and wasn't as aggressive as JR probably thought he should be and JR did what he did with fox, give him just enough time to see if things could work out the hurney/fox way and when their way didn't bring the wins JR wanted then richardson decided it was enough.

#1963426 Can you find yourself?

Posted by rayzor on 25 October 2012 - 06:28 PM


left turn at albuquerque.

and then some young hottie found me on the side of the road and married me. seems she had a thing for stray hippies.

#1963418 Can you find yourself?

Posted by rayzor on 25 October 2012 - 06:24 PM

i spent the better part of the 90's trying to find myself.

#1963168 panthers offense shifting to power running game...

Posted by rayzor on 25 October 2012 - 03:36 PM

In other words, if we can just stop sucking we might have a chance to be decent.

that would help.

#1962693 Steve Beuerlein?

Posted by rayzor on 25 October 2012 - 09:12 AM


i really think there is a pooty thread competition going on.

#1962673 Byron bell is back at RT

Posted by rayzor on 25 October 2012 - 08:59 AM

I felt like this years ago. I was like if we are going to keep a lineman around all of these years to back up and play when need, why not keep Jeremy Bridges. He is a better tackle than Williams, and a better gaurd than the one they call "piggy". I remember when whe used to have a plethora of O-line depth.

i remember when they were the best roided OL in the league. got us to the superbowl, even.

#1962153 8-8 record and keep Rivera. Or 3-13 and get good draft position?

Posted by rayzor on 24 October 2012 - 09:42 PM

fug draft position. The players are gonna play to win (as well they should).

this times a million.

i want this team winning.

i don't want a team that is satisfied with losing.

i hope that this team can turn it around. i hope that they don't have to go through another major overhaul.

if this team loses out then you can count on this place being an even more miserable place for players to come and you can count on cam and others not wanting to stick around.

players don't want to play for a losing team unless they are desperate and they are usually desperate for a reason.

sure....i know you get all these shiny toys in the draft but what guarantee is there that they will pan out and do you seriously want this team to have 4 or whatever rookie starters again?

meh...i've had enough losing.

let this team win. i don't care what it does to the draft. let these guys develop some pride.

#1962010 Can Rivera change your mind about firing him...

Posted by rayzor on 24 October 2012 - 07:55 PM

I haven't concluded that Rivera needs to be fired.

same here.

i want to see how he responds to struggles and failures like what is going on this year. if he comes out on top, or at least us finishing better than last year, then i'll be cool with him staying. main thing for me is growth and i look at the whole season, not just parts of it.

if i see no ability to recover and make things better from here out, and if the team doesn't improve...esp. if there is a regression then we should move on. i'm not gonna decide one way or the other though until the end of the season.

i am really curious to see what this team looks like personnel-wise at the end of the season with him having more control.

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