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#2000667 The Success of Chip Kelly. The New Old School

Posted by rayzor on 15 November 2012 - 09:57 AM

i'm glad someone else saw this article, btw. i read it yesterday and while i might have been leaning his direction before, i'm sold now.

the thing that really caught me was this....

Since Kelly became Oregon's offensive coordinator in 2007 and its head coach in 2009, the incredible statistics and daunting record rolled up by the Ducks has been largely credited to Kelly's famed spread offense. This season Oregon is 10-0, fourth in the country in rushing, second in total yards, and first in scoring with more than 54 points per game. The most common explanation for this success is Kelly's up-tempo, no-huddle approach and the theory that simply running plays quickly is what transforms a good offense into a great one. There's an element of truth to this — the no-huddle is undeniably key to Oregon's identity — but the explanation is incomplete. Oregon doesn't use its fastest tempo all the time, and the benefits of the no-huddle go well beyond those 60 electrifying minutes on Saturdays.

Kelly's anecdote about his old high school team suggests another possibility. Chip Kelly's offense works not because it's a gimmick, but because rather than choose sides between old and new, Kelly's teams straddle history. Oregon is successful because it does well what good teams have always done well, albeit with a slightly more modern wardrobe.
"We spread the defense so they will declare their defensive look for the offensive linemen," Kelly explained at that same clinic. "The more offensive personnel we put in the box, the more defenders the defense will put in there, and it becomes a cluttered mess." Twenty years ago, Kelly's high school coach ran the unbalanced, two–tight end power-I, so he could execute old-school, fundamental football and run the ball down his opponent's throat. Today, Kelly spreads the defense and operates out of an up-tempo no-huddle so he can do the exact same thing.

Every coach has to ask himself the same question: 'What do you want to be?'" Kelly said at a recent clinic. "That is the great thing about football. You can be anything you want. You can be a spread team, I-formation team, power team, wing-T team, option team, or wishbone team. You can be anything you want, but you have to define it." That definition is evident in Oregon. Kelly's choice of a no-huddle spread offense drips from every corner of the impressive practice facilities in Eugene. Oregon does not run a no-huddle offense so much as they are a no-huddle program.

For all of the hype surrounding Oregon games, Oregon practices might be even better. Oregon practices are filled with blaring music and players sprinting from drill to drill. Coaches interact with players primarily through whistles, air horns, and semi-communicative grunts. Operating under the constraint of NCAA-imposed practice time limits, Kelly's sessions are designed around one thing: maximizing time. Kelly's solution is simple: The practice field is for repetitions. Traditional "coaching" — correcting mistakes, showing a player how to step one way or another, or lecturing on this or that football topic — is better served in the film room.

The up-tempo, no-huddle offense ends up benefiting in practice as much as it does in games. Without time wasted huddling, players get many more practice repetitions, leading to increased efficiency on Saturdays. As Sam Snead once said, "practice is putting brains in your muscles," and Oregon's up-tempo practices are all about making Kelly's system second nature.
When the games do begin, there's no question that the no-huddle makes Oregon's attack more dangerous, but it's a common misconception that they have only one supersonic speed. The Ducks use plenty of their superfast tempo, but they actually have three settings: red light (slow, quarterback looks to sideline for guidance while the coach can signal in a new play), yellow light (medium speed, quarterback calls the play and can make his own audibles at the line, including various check-with-me plays), and green light (superfast).

This change of pace is actually how Oregon constantly keeps defenses off balance. If they only went one pace the entire game the offense would actually be easier to defend. When the defense lines up quickly and is set, Kelly takes his time and picks the perfect play. When the defense is desperate to substitute or identify Oregon's formation, the Ducks sprint to the line and rip off two, three, or four plays in a row — and it rarely takes more than that for them to score.

i have been hearing and reading that NFL execs and insiders have been saying that kelly runs the best practices of anyone they've seen and not a one of them has said that what he does in games or in practices wouldn't work.

i think that if he were given more time with the players and was given more mature and experienced players to work with, that he could absolutely do in the pros what he does at the college level.

it's the philosophy, the creativity, the management skills, and his intelligence that has won me over. the lack of NFL experience would only be there for the first year or two. again, if he had a staff made up of NFL experienced coaches i think he would be fine in that regard.

#1999808 Stop making alts

Posted by rayzor on 14 November 2012 - 03:41 PM

usual drivel

who was that?

#1999780 The Next GM

Posted by rayzor on 14 November 2012 - 03:15 PM

I got a feeling there are too many qualified NFL guys for a CFL guy to get a shot. Sorry man.

i think he's overrating polian as well.

#1999700 Charles Johnson third in pass rushing productivity

Posted by rayzor on 14 November 2012 - 02:18 PM


i know...the record makes his and hardy's contribution meaningless or something like that.

still...this is the kind of stuff you want to see and can build on, given that coaching doesn't screw it up.

combine last year's offense with this years defense and you have a powerhouse, imo.

the talent it here. it's just not being managed correctly.

#1999568 Momentum...

Posted by rayzor on 14 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

Schiano may or may not turn out to be a good coach, but I think he is at least sending appropriate messages to his players. And yeah, I would have given my left testicle for Harbaugh, but that's water under the bridge.

I know many are high on Kelly, but his offensive style worries me at the NFL level. After suffering through Chud version 2012, I would prefer someone that runs a pro style offense. And the lack of NFL experience bothers me.

Let's just hope we get the right GM and he makes a wise decision.

i''m not worried.

1) the problem hasn't been running plays from a college playbook. the problem is running a predictable offense. there is no real difference between a "pro-style" (which is nothing more than a name slapped to a limited and traditional style of play) and a college playbook except the college playbook has more plays used.

there is no such thing as a real pro-style offense. pages from college playbooks have been showing up with frequency for years and even the spread offense used by colleges, high schools, and pop-warner teams have been showing up quite often and has even become the base for a lot of the elite offenses in the league.

chud has the same problem that davidson had....way too narrow an approach to play calling. chud may have a much bigger playbook than davidson's 15 page coloring book, but chud's cardinal sin is not using enough of it.

kelly is a smart guy and supposedly NFL scouts have been lauding the way he runs practices for years. i'm sure that the switch to playing pro teams won't be as difficult as it has been for rivera to learn how to manage a team as an HC.

the thing i would want kelly to do is to surround himself with a coaching staff who has been around the block a good few times in the NFL. i would want him to have an OC (as a consultant) with an NFL history and a DC that comes from the NFL. the basic principles of managing a team and managing a game shouldn't be that different at all.

#1999491 The Next GM

Posted by rayzor on 14 November 2012 - 12:00 PM

I'd agree. And I'd also look at replacing some of the entrenched people.

no sacred cows.

i have no problem with keeping effective people around.

and no, just being part of a losing culture doesn't mean one isn't good at his job, but it also makes it hard to distinguish the good from the bad.

i remember hearing that after the 2010 season, aside from don gregory the whole college scouting department was rebuilt. it was one of those "quiet" rebuilds. if that is the case, i would have no problem keeping that staff around just based on what they did this last year.

#1999224 Stop making alts

Posted by rayzor on 14 November 2012 - 09:28 AM

I just wanted to say thank you. Thank you for taking agressive measures recently to clean this place up and hopefully pave the road to better content.

I can't speak for everyone but this additional move makes me want to contribute more.

so whose alt is this?

#1998868 Who's puts the 'offensive' in 'offensive line'?

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

Amini is bad.....bad bad

he's a rookie starting on the OL,

except for a very few among even the very elite, they all look like they are on roller skates.

they get better in year two and three.

last year everyone was screaming about bell sucking. he did, but he was a rookie.

#1998453 Is Cam afraid to be a leader because of how the media might react?

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 05:12 PM


i think it's more because he doesn't think he's earned it....which he might have a point.

shouldn't stop him from stepping up and rousing the other players and taking on the role of motivator on and off the field. instead he's been needing it himself. it's up to him to change that.

#1998429 Rivera AKA Chicken Little

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 04:54 PM

remember when everyone was down on danny crossman. well now he's in detroit and he still sucks.

#1998371 Understanding the Kraken

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 04:19 PM

That sounds like a guy who has motivation issues and doesn't care about winning... sheesh.


not seeing what the problem was.

#1998338 Panthers to sign Jeremy Bridges

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

welcome back, mr. bridges.

just don't accost anyone at a restaurant or pull a gun on anyone at a strip joint parking lot and we should be cool.

oh yeah...and play just as good as you did when you first got here.


#1998183 Nice Newton quote.

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 01:46 PM

Oh, look, once again the film shows that all the people screaming that Cam has to get the ball out quicker have no idea just how enormously retarded our playcalling is.


why can't it be both? just because that wasn't the case in that scenario doesn't mean it's not the case often.

the playcalling sucks AND the OL sucks AND cam needs to be smarter and get the ball out quicker.

#1998169 Nice Newton quote.

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 01:35 PM

I can't ban people for disagreeing with me or being dumb. Which is basically the same thing...

yes you can.

you just don't want to enough.

if you really wanted to it could be justified.

i'm sure he's an alt for someone...and in keeping with the new zodism of today "thou shalt not make alts lest thy name be wholly banned" you swing teh kurb banhammer.

still funny that you guys have let the return of PFFL actually return. guy was perma-banned, right? i think he made more alts than anyone ever in here.

#1998007 A comparison between two zone read QB's on 3rd down: Newton vs. Tebow

Posted by rayzor on 13 November 2012 - 11:29 AM

i love these one trick pony posters in here.

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