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#3004533 What Would you Change?

Posted by rayzor on 07 October 2014 - 02:48 PM

people choosing anything other than OL are going to be few and far between and among those will be a miniscule group of people who feel it necessary to defend gettleman and choose to do so by burying their head in the sand and pretending that it isn't really a problem and demanding that you state what you would specifically have done differently/better than what gettleman did and make you out to be a gettleman hater even if you like him and acknowledge that he's done most everything right.

#3004382 NBC Sports on Cam: "You can’t question the kid’s toughness."

Posted by rayzor on 07 October 2014 - 01:19 PM

why is Cam still being referred to as a kid?

i refer to a lot of people under 30 as kid. not a big deal.

i'm in my 40s and i still get called a young'un by some people quite older than me. again, not a big deal.

it doesn't mean child, it means younger than someone...at least in that context.

or it could just mean that he's a young GOAT.

#3004361 this what pisses me off about shula

Posted by rayzor on 07 October 2014 - 01:08 PM

fug off pussy every time you comment on someones post you always got to make a asshole remark you fuginh dick head

find a more civil way to respond.

you won't last if you attack people disagreeing with you or the threads you start. people aren't going to always agree with you and that's fine.

#3004353 Trade for Morgan Moses?

Posted by rayzor on 07 October 2014 - 01:01 PM

all rookie OL asked to play a significant amount of snaps look bad. they make a poo ton of mistakes, they play like they are on roller skates, and they get a lot of penalties for holding and false starts. and thats true with even most first round picks. all but a few of the most elite are like that.

you know why? I'll give you a hint, it's not because they are busts.

it's because it is a hard role to grasp and takes a couple years to learn how to keep from getting abused and getting their QB killed.

anyone expecting a rookie OT or OG to not look bad and make mistakes like that is going to be in for a huge letdown. it's going to happen because they are going up against guys who have been playing on the other side for years who have learned how to use head fakes and various maneuvers to get through as well as DCs who scheme all kinds of stunts and dulifferent looks and there's a lot to get used to seeing on the field so that you can know how to anticipate what the D is doing.

now moses might be bad, but it also could be that he's just a rookie who got caught making a fairly typical rookie mistake and ended up getting his QB abused. it happens to even the best of them.

#2997216 Stephen Hill

Posted by rayzor on 05 October 2014 - 06:47 AM

Wrs aren't really the problem at this point. He's probably not better than what we have and with no injuries at the position, there really isn't a reason to bring him up



someone ahead of him would have to get hurt or really start messing up their assignments or start dropping a lot of balls. the guys we have right now are doing everything they are supposed to be doing. there's no reason to demote them for a guy who is still more of a work in progress than anyone else on the roster.

#2997214 Stephen Hill

Posted by rayzor on 05 October 2014 - 06:44 AM

i dont think people realize just how bad he was when he got here and how much of a project he really is.


he might be more naturally talented than the other WRs on the roster not named kelvin benjamin, but he's not "better" or at least better prepared than the other guys who have roster spots.


i have a feeling that they are having to start from ground zero with this guy so it may take a while. i think it should be worth it when they get through with him, but i don't anticipate that being any time soon.

#2996458 For my own amusement....

Posted by rayzor on 04 October 2014 - 08:25 AM

biggest argument against ramsdell that i keep on seeing is he hasn't taken on the role as an offensive coordinator before.


but we did hire a HC without HC experience and a GM without GM experience and we regularly draft professional players without professional experience.


point is, we hire them because of the degree of excellence they have had in their other responsibilities and because we think they have all the tools necessary to succeed. many of the things they did can contribute to their ability to grasp what they need to succeed at a higher level.


imo, that's ramsdell. it's not that he's been a great position coach for every position he's coached, he's been surrounded by amazing talent on the coaching level. look at the offenses he's been a part of and the offensive minds he's been able to work with for many years.


does being a successful position coach guarantee that he will be a successful OC? nope, but that didn't stop us from hiring rivera or gettleman.

#2996419 Mark it down, Carolina wins by 10 or more Sunday

Posted by rayzor on 04 October 2014 - 06:25 AM

if you started a thread/made a comment stating some opinion or prediction have you not marked it down yourself? why would anyone else need to mark it down?


just asking. i've always wondered that.



#2994865 Fozzy is practicing.....

Posted by rayzor on 02 October 2014 - 06:12 PM

Go Fozzy go.

Unreal how much salary cap is tied up in two positions that were now ultra thin at. :(

there's a lesson to be learned there, imo.

#2992751 Gil Brandt draft redo

Posted by rayzor on 01 October 2014 - 03:40 PM

We tagged hardy before his legal troubles and before post ray rice NFL. If that video never leaked hardy would have been playing the whole season. Don't blame dg for that. It was the right move at the time.

Everyone loves to look back and say they were calling for one thing when that move only looks good now because of poo that happened which no one could foresee happening

the domestic abuse thing has very little/nothing to do with my feelings on whether or not hardy should have been tagged.

i don't think it was the right call because that was way too much money being spent on one position and i felt from the beginning that it would come back to bite us in the ass more than letting him go would. hardy and johnson take up 21% of the total cap and 50% of cap used on the defense.

adding to that, he has an overly risky lifeztyle that he refuses to get under control that the organization has to be getting tired of and it was only a matter of time before it bit him in the ass. i mean the guy has a right to live how he wants, but the panthers don't have to be pying for it. there's several things that he had done which would have resulted in a firing from many corporations, but we were going to give him $15mil for another year of it. granted the chances of us signing him to a long term deal were virtually nil i think largely because of those two reasons, but i stillthink the hard but better decision would have been to let him walk and improve at least the OL.

#2992503 This week Shula says we have to find ways to get in the endzone

Posted by rayzor on 01 October 2014 - 02:16 PM

i'll ask this again from another thread


why can't the genius Bill Belichick scheme around his subpar talent o-line?


why is tom brady having the worst season of his entire career?


and you should really be embarrassed with that low blow to Shula.


i'm more embarrassed by the fact that we have shula as our OC. i never liked the idea of him and i've seen nothing to make me feel any differently.


and why can't the pats do better? i don't know. don't care enough to investigate, but short answers requiring very little thought or sleep: 1) belichick isn't the OC  and 2) brady is just getting old.

#2992487 Gil Brandt draft redo

Posted by rayzor on 01 October 2014 - 02:12 PM

so, one guy.  one undrafted player is the reason DG sucks as a GM.  let's not pretend that Hurst is the next coming of Orlando Pace.  He's starting because the guy in front of him went down, not because he earned it through stellar play.  Yes he's doing fine, but he got a lot of help last weekend.  Hurst would have been nice to add to the team, and probably has a good future in front of him, but he would not have made our Oline a solid ass kicking machine this year.


OL changes are certainly coming, be it through FA or the draft, when the right player is there.  Overpaying for mediocre talent is not going to happen.  We'll get our Oline, and it will be quality talent for a proper contract.


did i say he sucked as a GM? i said i liked him and most of what he's done. saying that he's not perfect isn't saying he sucked? i mean by your standards it might, but not by most people.


and hurst doesn't need to be the next orlando pace or whatever. he just would have needed to be better than the two clowns we currently have, which isn't that high a bar to reach. there were others available and still are who could have helped us out or at least provided competition for the two starting jobs or AT LEAST brought in some well needed depth. we did nothing and it showed.


and people have been saying for the past couple months that changes are certainly coming on the OL. people defending every little thing that gettleman does was saying either they are good enough or that there's no way that we would go into the season with those two because gettleman has something up his sleeve or whatever. well guess what? we are about a quarter of the way through the season and we still have these two clowns starting with no other prospects and they still suck. the only reasonable conclusion is that we are going to stay with the guys who are here,whether or not they can actually keep cam alive or not because rivera and/or gettleman believe in them.


neither gettleman or rivera are perfect in their ability to discern talent. i fully believe that their trust in those two guys was misplaced and the proof is in the sucking. am i saying i can do a better job than gettleman? nope, but i can sure spot a turd when i see one and i see two turds. one is on the left side of the OL and the other is on the right.


also, is overpaying for mediocre talent better than paying very little for very little talent? in this case we are getting what we pay for. the only problem is we didn't factor into the equation the cost of getting cam hurt, bad pass protection, and piss poor run blocking on the season. the price we are paying is what we see on the field.

#2991727 PFT: Bears might rather face Newton

Posted by rayzor on 01 October 2014 - 08:49 AM

florio speculating? where's that nicolas cage gif when i need it?

#2991684 Gil Brandt draft redo

Posted by rayzor on 01 October 2014 - 08:17 AM

Imagine if Kraken had gone to Baltimore.

and then have two starters missing games because of domestic abuse stuff?

yeah, i think that would have gone over well.

#2991640 Gil Brandt draft redo

Posted by rayzor on 01 October 2014 - 07:47 AM

I think he suits up after sitting out six games.

In retrospect, it's easy to say let Hardy walk but where is that all pro LT that possibly could have been brought in? You won't find one.

With or without Hardy, we weren't going to do much improving on the OL, and looking at where the D is currently, we'd be screaming for the Kraken.

we wouldn't have been screaming for kraken. we would have been sitting there watching some other team sit him relieved that we weren't the team that gave him a lot of money to do nothing.

meanwhile, it's bordering on ridiculous thinking that the $15mil we would have saved by not tagging hardy wouldn't have been used to stengthen other areas of the team, namely OT. we wasted $15mil this year. but oh well...at least we didn't let him walk for nothing. we're just paying him for nothing.

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