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Posts posted by Khyber53

  1. He'll find a home after the draft.

    The sad truth, though, is that the rest of the league doesn't see him as an elite QB after the last three seasons of injuries and losing efforts. It just is a matter of what's on tape and in the win-loss column. Cam also has a big personality and a bit of a diva complex (perceived more than real) and that can be daunting for a new coach or one who may be on the hot seat.

    Best of luck to him. Wish he'd have just worked with the deal here that he already had, but it appears both he and the Panthers were both wanting things the other could not guarantee at this time. Life just works out that way sometimes.

  2. Honestly, the 2003 team had to fight and claw for every single victory they had. There was a lot of character and a lot of magic there. The 2015 team just clicked perfectly and ran roughshod all over their opponents, to the point where they started celebrating early and drinking their own Kool-Aid. 

    In 2003, Carolina went into the Superb Owl and took on an incredibly tough, well-coached team and got down by a considerable margin and were completely handled in the first half. They came back out and made one helluva a game of it only to lose it in the last moments, having broken through one of the great defenses and against probably the GOAT of QBs in his best form. 

    In 2015, Carolina went into the Superb Owl as the favorites and treated it like they had already won the game in the week leading up to it. On the field, they got out toughed, out coached and out gritted from the get go and never even looked like they had a chance. Denver's defense punished not just Cam but anyone who got the ball. And somehow, our vaunted defense couldn't stop a crippled Peyton Manning on his last ride. 

    Yeah, in the end the 2015 Panthers would just tear into the 2003 Panthers for three quarters. The celebrating would commence, they'd get lax and lazy, Morgan would concuss Cam, Jake would start winging it wildly to Smitty and Moose would knock the holy hell out of a DB or two. Somehow 2003 would win by a field goal at the end.

    It'd be a great game. A winning machine against the Bad News Bears. The annointed versus the forsaken. It'd be a helluva story.

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  3. 15 hours ago, MMA said:

    Curtco better come out in 2020 and be Tyreke Hill if he wants to see the field. Moore and Robby are the starting wrs. Kirkwood or a rookie could easily beat Curtco for the #3.

    Curtco could easily be moved to a halfback position to spell CMC just as simply as you could move CMC wide out as WR1, or as a slot receiver. He won't be traded or lost in the shuffle, but will really be used in many ways.

    And the Kirkwood signing, pure genius. As a second line receiver in NO, guess who he has been working with in practices over the last season? Good ol' Teddy Bridgewater. That relationship should add some stability and familiarity there. Smart move guys, smart move.

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  4. I like what Rhule says. I like what he has done with Temple and Baylor as he climbed the ladder to get here.

    He took a big eraser to the chalkboard here, and that hurt some. It is what needs to be done, though. If he has had to build teams based around finding tough players who had to earn their spots, the forgotten and the high motor guys, then that's what we'll have here. In a star-studded NFC South, it might just take the Dirty Dozen to win. 

    We may be more like the 2003 Panthers than the 2015 ones... It might not be as spectacular, but darn that was an exciting time and no game was ever boring. 

    Let's just hope there's a season, because it should be a fun one.

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  5. 4 hours ago, thefuzz said:

    While I agree that Lowes shouldn't be open (to the general public), it is deemed vital to construction, which is not going to be shut down.  The people going in there for herbs, mulch, and sprinklers shouldn't be allowed in.  If you don't have a GC license, or can't prove that you work in active construction, you should be turned away at the door.

    And I too feel bad for the workers, but I'm sure that many of them are happy to have jobs still.

    Yeah, I've got to disagree here. Beyond basic repairs, there are a lot of folks, our family included, that are taking the time to start container gardening vegetables and herbs. Grabbing a couple of bags of potting soil and some pots is for the good and could add to our supplies as the season wears on.

    Basically, here's the deal: what is an essential thing to one person may not be to another and vice versa. I don't see a reason to go golfing, but there they are zipping up and down the fairways today, one to a cart, but clustering at the holes. But it's not my place to get my panties in a wad. Those might be doctors who are getting a few moments off or something like that.

    We're going to be alright, eventually. Just be cool.

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  6. 11 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

    More teams? Yeah, I disagree with that completely. NFL hasn't had a Wild Card weekend team in the Super Bowl in over 8 damn years now. poo's not changing either. 

    You know the Wild Card team is supposed to be a miracle chance at best, right? 

    In the end, it doesn't dilute the game nearly as much as having two teams with bye weeks for each conference especially if those spots were locked in before the week 17 games. 

  7. 33 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

    I mean you are in a tough spot that is for sure. It’s not fair that they have this leverage over you like that. Government should enforce some sort of law that makes stuff like this illegal. Protect the consumer. 


    32 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

    All construction, in any phase, is considered essential.  Its wack as hell but theres no distinction btw someone putting in a new swimming pool in time for the summer and repairing a roof  so it doesnt rain in the bedroom.

    In the end, we're benefiting from their being here, to be honest. We'd like to be done with the project, too. And looking at it from the contractor's perspective, it is easy to see why continuing work on this right now is the best deal going. He has other things lined up afterwards (I hope --  he's a good guy and does quality work) and he needs to finish this, get paid and get to the next (for people who are also waiting). He also is at the mercy of subcontractors like electricians, plumbers and installers, so the more he can keep things moving, the less vulnerable he is to work stoppages for one of those.

    Just going to have to hope they stay well, we stay well, everything gets done and happiness abounds on both sides. Besides, do you know how good it is to find a general contractor that really knows what they are doing and are fair and trustworthy? You just can't let one of those go when you find them.

    And all of those folks have families to feed and bills to pay.

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  8. 12 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

    Agreed, seemingly half of everything is considered essential.  Lots of people still moving around.  

    There's a lot of self-determined essentials going on. We have contractors and electricians working in our house today ... our project isn't essential, but they want to be here. We'd send them home but have already been told that if they leave today then we have to wait to get back on their schedule and that could be months out, and they'll want payment for the project now.

    I mean, what do you do? Luckily they are working in the bottom half of the house and my family has sequestered itself in the top half, so we're good and there's little contact, but dang man, really?

  9. He will be the pick (unless Rivera takes him first) and he'll be a star here. 

    A Defensive Tackle is involved directly in every play of the game. It's just the most bang for the buck and a guy like Brown is so head and shoulders above everyone else, it's a no-brainer. He's also the kind of guy you pick for your team just so you don't have him going after your QB and RBs. Think about that... we do NOT want TB, ATL or NO grabbing this guy.

    Grab him and use him as the foundation of the new defense. He's a guy that will make it easier on other defensive players and give some of them a chance to shine. Just remember that last year, our terrible interior defensive line play screwed the entire team so badly that Luke frikkin' Kuechly looked bad, got hurt and then retired because of it.


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  10. 14 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

    Worth noting, the US moved away from the gold standard in 1971.

    It's not that people were spending way more.  It's that their money was worth way less...

    You're right. See, we can print practically unlimited amounts of money. Gold, well, there just isn't a way to make matter...

    But hey, it is really much more complicated than that.

    You can also say that about the same time we brought that top end income tax down from the 70% rate in 1981. That's also about the time that American industry started moving offshore. So many causes...

  11. Just now, ickmule said:

    Nothing would surprise me at this point.  Some people still didn’t think Cam would be released as late as last week and some could see the writing on the wall.   We have  entered the Daniel Snyder zone in Panther Land.  

    No, not quite the Daniel Snyder zone, or even the Al Davis and Sprout Davis zone. I think there is a definite plan in Carolina and we're seeing it played out (with some bumps), we're just not privy to the background conversations and negotiations.

    I mean, in the Cam deal the unsexy, but most likely case, is that it comes down to Cam didn't want to play without an extension and more money. The team wanted him, but was wanted to treat his last contract year as a "prove it" year considering how the last three seasons turned out. Neither would, or could, budge and in a QB heavy and risk averse free agency period both were stuck looking at nothing really happening. Cam doesn't want just $19 million, and the team doesn't want to either give a longer contract with guarantees OR risk having a celebrity player sit out of training camps as we install an entirely new coaching staff and playbook. So, divorce it is and no one looks good.

    There's probably no conspiracy behind the massive number of free agents we let go of. It's not necessarily about comp picks, it probably has a lot to do simply with the fact that a team coming off of three disappointing seasons probably shouldn't keep around the same guys who have been lackluster. 

    No conspiracy for Luke's retirement, either. It was neither a slight to the Panthers nor falling on the sword at the loss of Ron Rivera. It's just a very smart young man who can read and understand things (like defenses and medical reports) saying, "I've had all my body can and should take. I've got enough money to take care of myself and my family for life. Thank you, I'm retiring while I still can function and I've appreciated it all." 

    None of this has that crazy ass Daniel Snyder feel to it. Bringing in big time names and vastly overpaying them, now that's the Daniel Snyder way, with the cherry on the top of getting absolutely no performance for the dough.


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  12. First, check the source. Anyone can post a video on YouTube. 

    Second, does it make any sense whatsoever? Nope.

    Third, could it just be someone who is sitting at home coming up with crazy ideas? Yep.

    Fourth, could there be upper management at the Panthers and another team both sitting at home, bored out of their minds and coming up with something this crazy? Right now, I wouldn't put it past anyone. 

    These are strange days, indeed.

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  13. We've been blessed that both my wife and I can work from home. The kids are enjoying school being out and have been fairly good about keeping up with their work online (amazing job the teachers have done putting together a working distance learning program on the fly like this).

    My only difficulty is right before the virus hit, my mom had been hospitalized for pneumonia (she's 70 and a lifelong asthmatic with other underlying conditions, too). They released her into a nursing home/rehab facility and the place has been locked down ever since. At least I can call her, but if things change for the worse then I won't get to see her again. She's going to be okay, though, I know it.

    Good luck to everyone and no matter how bad it gets, there are days ahead that will be better. Don't survive the pandemic and simultaneously convince yourself that your life is over. This too shall pass.

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  14. Will Witherspoon did more as OLB for the Panthers than Kevin Greene. He is vastly underappreciated for his time here, and the guy was a certifiable genius.

    Also, I think that if Jordan Carstens hadn't had medical issues, he'd have been one of our greatest DTs ever. That was one of the country strongest players we've ever had. Brentson Buckner was also great in his own way, as one of the dirtiest linemen in the history of the NFL -- he was the master of the double catch and don't release method of tying up the interior of the line. That guy committed more holds than the entire Raiders team from 1988-1996, but was only called for about a dozen of them.


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  15. Honestly, if I were a GM in need of a decent QB either as a place holder or someone to coach up my next draft choice QB, then I'd trade for Andy Dalton. He's the safest bet of those left as available right now, and while you would have to trade for him, it wouldn't be for much.

    Cam, you don't know if he's really healthy.

    Jameis, do you really want him teaching anyone anything?

    Dalton probably would have turned into a darned good QB had he gone to any team other than the Bengals. Good, not great.


  16. Let's see how he does on opening day. It's been a long time since anyone in a Panthers uniform could regularly throw a pass 20 yards down the field accurately.

    I still think Teddy is going to make a lot of us sit up and say, "Hey, that was cool. Wow. Look at that. Maybe... just maybe... he's not bad at all. I was his fan all along."

    And quit using Game Manager like it was a bad thing. If your QB can't manage the game, then you are going to lose a lot of games.

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