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Khyber53

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  1. It all depends on who is under center for us.

    Defense has shown strength, if not a lot of endurance.

    Running game showed out against a tough rams team.

    Receivers are, strangely, getting open, even geriatric Greg. 

    Special teams may be one of our best in a decade or two.

    Get some blocking and have either the right Cam or a moderately okay Allen under center, we might make a win.

    The Cardinals are still trying to figure out how to play sandlot football in a professional league.


  2. 19 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

    He gave up meat and went celibate... The guy became holier than the Vatican, that would make any Alpha Male insane 

    Nah, man. That narrative doesn't work.

    The narrative that what Cam wants to do in life and what football demands of him suddenly being on different paths is probably closer to the truth. That or the kidnapping and being replaced by a clone at Coachella story, I kind like that one.

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  3. If you remove the two narratives competing for relevance here, it comes down to this:

    Professional football is a tough sport and not only are long careers in it incredibly rare, ANY career in it is incredibly rare. All players are asked to put their bodies beyond the limits of what the rest of us would consider normal, some survive by avoiding injuries, some are felled by them. The good ones answer the bell, the great ones keep fighting even when the injuries are terrible... they come back, they don't give up... until they have to. 

    Injury, age or ability eventually spells the end for every player in the league. Every coach eventually runs out of runway, few if any, ever retire on a high note.

    And that rush for momentary glory is what they all play for and what the rest of us all tune in to see. 


  4. Great to see he's doing so well, he's a great all around guy.

    The Chargers really needed him and his leadership, whereas here we needed to prepare for the long haul with the defensive set up change. It seems to be working out for both parties and that's a good thing.

    If he can get another couple of years of playing time, and the accompanying checks, then good for him!

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  5. I think that Ron became such a player's coach that they run the farm more than he does. And the Turners? I sure had a lot of hope, but there was that nagging remembrance of Turner being run out of every other team so far for lack of long term results. 

    I don't think Ron has the stroke to pull Cam from a game even when Cam's obviously unable to compete. I think his defensive coordinators were poached so thoroughly after 2015 that there was no coming back. Even though he seems to be capable of calling the defense, in doing so he has no control over the offense.

    He's a good guy that has just lost his role of being the boss of the team. 

    On a good note for the coaching staff, though, Chase Blackburn looks to be a darned good ST coach. His guys are actually playing like they want to be here.


  6. Step one: bench Cam. Let him sit on the bench and either heal or find his fire again. It's obvious he's doing neither out on the field. If he neither heals nor gets back the mojo that made him Superman before, it's time to cut bait and move on.

    Step two: Make them put Kyle Allen in as the QB. Here's the chance to evaluate Rivera and the Turners without Cam either saving or harming them. We aren't asking for a real Jake Delhomme turn around, but let's see if they can coach out some wins without the superstar on the field. This will help determine where the problem is without any masking of the issues.

    Step three: Put Hurney on notice that he needs to inform some of these bigger name vet pick-ups that this is an employment deciding year for them based purely on their performance. Guys like Poe, McCoy, Reid, Irvin, Paradis need to step up and play like their reputations made us hope. So far they've either been meh or haven't even seen the field. 

    Step four: Be prepared to clean house at season end. There's a lot of good, young talent on this team and let's also not waste the remaining years of Luke by trying to chase 2015 all over again. Ron, the Turners, Washington, Newton, KK and others may have just reached the end of their shelf life and need to move on. 

    Step five: Look at retooling the scouting department. Changes in coaching and management don't matter if you still have the same talent evaluators providing guidance for draft days and free agency. 

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  7. Also, adding to the problem is that DJ and Samuel just don't know how to get back on their routes after being jammed at the lines. Then again, our defense always plays with a cushion, so they get no practice doing it.

    Cam's got maybe three throws a game with that shoulder (now, less later probably) and that's not making it any better.

    Olsen can get out of a jam, and so he makes it, aided by the rushing of linebackers who aren't there to help cover him or are spying on CMC.

     

     


  8. Okay, here's my Hurney 2.0 take:

    He came back and has been good at getting both new blood and some established vets here. He has been better at contract negotiations than before. He has also managed to bring both Pep and Smitty back into the family, something that I think we all needed.

    Cam was originally Hurney's pick and even now on Hurney's second career loop as the Panthers GM, the show goes through Cam and Ron. Considering the turnover in recent years between the overnight exit of Gettleman AND the Faustian fall of Richardson, there was no way there was going to be a change to either Ron or Cam, even as the records got worse and the injuries became an issue. The two are so intertwined... has Ron been responsible for a lot of Cam's success, has he been responsible for the lacking years? Has it been a "As Cam goes, so goes the Panthers" as many expect to be the case? 

    The guy is stuck with the pair of them and he's going to hang with them or be hanged with them in the end. 

     

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  9. Bench Cam for the next couple of games and promote Allen to QB1 for the time being. It will give Cam the time to heal up, practice up or man up (whatever it is that has robbed him of the mojo), and give us a chance to evaluate how others players and coaches are doing. If Cam is on the field, Cam is the story good or bad and it doesn't necessarily tell the tale of the tape for the supporting cast.

    Bench him and see if it gets him back into this. Between the injuries, the changes and the age, Cam is hitting a wall that he will either get over or be stuck behind. He'll either fight for it and adapt or he will just shrug and go on, but let it happen off the field.

    I'm not saying Allen is the better QB, not by a long shot, but if he can win, it's going to tell us a lot about the quality of the coaching, the line and the receivers. If he loses, it's going to put the weak spots under a glaring spotlight. Either way, we get a better evaluation of where we stand.


  10. 4 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

    jameis played very well last night, particularly in navigating the pocket, which got mangled repeatedly from the inside.

    And that was the tale of the game and possibly the tale in the change of two careers. Jameis has mostly looked like a three-legged waterbuffalo on quaaludes when it comes to being in a collapsing pocket while Cam has traditionally been elusive, aggressive and in command during those situations. Last night, the roles were reversed so glaringly. 

    Winston navigated, Cam became Betty White in a rugby match. It just doesn't sit right.

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  11. I'm generally a dyed in the wool optimist, even in the worst seasons, but they are going to have to show me something amazing to believe. 

    What did I see that was amazing last night? A geriatric Greg Olsen posting over 100 yards receiving. Curtis Samuels looking like the guy we hoped he would be. Brian Burns authoring the first of many sacks in his career. A defense getting that rarest of scores, a safety when we desperately needed it. A QB throwing for over 300 yards.

    And I saw an inexplicable loss.

    Forget showing me something amazing, let me ask for something really, really difficult. Show me a win.

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  12. 3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

    Actually, he wasn't.

    But we asked him to be.

    Heck, we expected him to be.

    As much as anything, I think that's a big reason why we're in the position we are right now.

     

    He was the one with the whole Superman celebration, just saying he was a pretty active participant in the who gestalt.


  13. If you're Tepper, you sit Rivera and Turner down in the office and say, "Bench Cam and tell Allen here's your chance to Delhomme the fug out of this."

    Before you chuck Rivera and the Turners, you need to be able to assess them without Cam in the equation. Otherwise, if you keep Cam in, the wins or losses could be attributed to or blamed on Cam. The only way to really assess their coaching capabilities is to give them that chance.

    It's an incredibly difficult situation for them to be in, to lose the star QB and have to try and compete with a career back-up while their backs are against the wall. Fox did it with Delhomme and like that fabled game back in 2003 (also versus Tampa Bay) and went all the way to the Super Bowl. If they are great coaches, they can do it. If not, its time to fire up the resumes.


  14. Cam's biggest asset in the long passing game wasn't his arm, but his legs. The constant threat of his mobility kept safeties from playing deep, allowing better opportunities downfield.

    He's no threat whatsoever to move now and the coverages reflect that. Couple that with ability to push the ball downfield, but not rifle it and toss in shaky accuracy and it's just not going to play out well. 

    He's also not reading the field well, further exacerbating the situation. Did we mention statue in the pocket and being collision averse?

    It's a sad day. The dude was Superman.

     

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  15. We went to 3-4 to be more competitive in a pass happy league, and in particular a heavy passing division. This was to be the transition year with something of a hybrid between the two.

    All I've really seen is a bit better pass coverage, a pretty anemic pass rush, and a near disappearance of Luke when in the 3-4 defense.

    We might get better and find our stride, but Luke can (and has been) the most dominant linebacker in the game, why do anything to bury him?

    And on another note, I've never seen a softer Panthers defense, heck entire team. We've sure got a lot of high paycheck, low effort guys.

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