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  1. 14 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

    He was kept clean at Clemson.  That won't happen here, not for a few years anyhow until the DL is rebuilt.  I mean Keuchly couldn't even keep guys off him last year.  That was with several former 1st rounder in front of him too.

    Simmons would be best served going to a team with a solid DL and lacking a difference maker in the back 7, especially at the LB level.  Here, we lack talent everywhere on defense.  We don't have the luxury to man up everywhere so Simmons has the ability to roam freely.  Anybody that thinks this is the case is 100% fooling themselves.

    I agree. He's a luxury player, but we have a historically bad D which has list 6 players. We need the bones before we can add the flesh.

     That said if he makes the pick then so be it. Either way we won't be competitive next year. I just think Simmons is wasted here atm a bit like CmC. We would get their best years when we aren't a contender 


  2. Everyone is so impressed by the positionless athlete that is Simmons. He was used all over the place because he was versatile in an already dominant defence. It seems like a big projection that he will;. 

     - have the same impact on a weak roster

    -  be used as creatively by his next DC

    - have the same success at the NFL level, where he will no longer be able to use his superior athletic traits to compensate for being unable to anticipate.

    Although he could very well succeed, at the least he looks like a risk to me at a position of questionable value.

    • Pie 1

  3. 31 minutes ago, Toomers said:

    Cam left because of injury after 8 seasons and leading this team on its most successful run in team history. 

        KB left after 3.5 seasons of inventing new ways to be lazy on the field, and eating so much he can’t see his dick when he stands up without a mirror. 

       Sure. Sounds similar. 

      He isn't comparing how they got to the point of leaving, he is saying what happens next maybe similar.


  4. 17 hours ago, rodeo said:

    "the people inside know something we don't"

    you mean the all new coaching staff who haven't called a single play for Cam in their careers? no, i don't think they know something we don't.

    This is true if Rhule and his new staff made the decision. Even then it would be informed by the GM and owners knowledge based on what they had seen in past seasons. Is it fair to say the messages about Cams recovery and availability didn't match up with the reality?

    My opinion? The person who made the decision about QB moving forward was Tepper. He made his decision based on Cam being injured for pretty much the entire duration of Tepper's tenure. He wanted a clean slate and was likely sick of this franchise being about Cam all the time when he was doing nothing to justify it. If that is so, the new coaching staff wouldn't have defied him. 

  5. 10 hours ago, Jesse said:

    So this is something I saw on Reddit. The pressure  % is the number of snaps rushing the QB vs. the number of pressures (I assume sacks, QB hits, QB hurries). This is indicative of how well a player does regarding disrupting the passer in the NFL. I'm curious now as to what Everette Brown's numbers were... anyways now that I've give you PTSD, here are some numbers about last year's draft class and this upcoming one.

    Here are the rankings from the 2019 edge rushing class coming out of college, and next to it I've written the number of sacks they posted their rookie year. 

    1. Josh Allen (UK) - 26.8% | 10.5 sacks
    2. Nick Bosa (OSU) - 19.7% | 9 sacks
    3. Jaylon Ferguson (LAT) - 9.4% | 2.5 sacks
    4. Clelin Ferrell (CLEM) - 17.4% | 4.5 sacks
    5. Montez Sweat (MSU) - 17.3% | 7 sacks
    6. Brian Burns (FSU) - 16.2% | 7.5 sacks
    7. Maxx Crosby (EMU) - 16.2% | 10 sacks
    8. Malik Reed (NEV) - 5.8% | 2 sacks
    9. Porter Gustin (USC) —15.2% | 1 sack
    10. Joe Jackson (MIA)—14.9% | 0 sacks

    Obviously these numbers are dependent on scheme, attempted pass rushing snaps, defensive back ability, etc. Below are what the numbers are for the class of 2020. Obviously we can't Chase Young, but here are some other candidates we may look to add in day 2 or 3 of the draft.

    1. Josh Uche (MICH) - 26.1%
    2. Carter Coughlin (MINN) - 20.7%
    3. Chase Young (OSU) - 20.4%
    4. Bryce Huff (MEM) - 20.1%
    5. Terry Whittington (USM) - 20%
    6. Kaimana Padello (HAW) - 18.9%
    7. Darrell Taylor (TEN) - 18.6%
    8. Zack Baun (WISC) - 18.5%
    9. Trevis Gipson (TU) - 17.6%
    10. Anfernee Jennings (BAMA) - 17.4%

    Have to wonder if the guys who have high pressure rates from small schools were going against terrible opponents. That said, a guy from East Michigan got 10 sacks for the Raiders last year from the 3rd-4th end?

     I watched a couple of games with Uche and was impressed. Gipson also looked impressive at the senior bowl and would be a very late round pick.

  6. 43 minutes ago, TheRed said:

    Oh stop the waterworks already. The "dislike" is for losing. Not even the only Panthers MVP in team history has gotten a pass for losing. Kyle Allen is hardly the only former Panther to get kicked out the door anyway, nobody shed a tear for Thomas Davis or Greg Olsen. Why should a UDFA who played here one year be any different?

    You're determined not to give him any credit, that's what bothers me- some fan.

    He was never meant to be Cam Newton and carry the franchise. If that's the standard you were holding an undrafted QB to, who had never had training camp reps with the first team, then I can't help you.

    Any reasonable person would accept that scoring 31 points against the division winner in their house in November coming from double digits behind twice deserves a little respect. 

    • Pie 4

  7. 17 minutes ago, TheRed said:

    Did we or did we not finish the season on an 8 game losing streak?

    Maybe you should follow him to Washington if you like losing so much.

     Such dislike for KA. Anyone who dares speak up for the UDFA reserve QB should go follow another team because he wasn't as good as Cam? Just listen to yourself. Its kind of sad.

  8. 8 hours ago, PantherBoy95 said:

    I guess the positive would be that next off-season they would have the most cap space as they look to shape Rhule's roster right?

    Unfortunately not. Kuechlys dead money next year is 7m. If you cut Short (likely) that's 11.5m. Paradis if he continues to be a liability is a 5.4 DM hit. Then there's Gano who had that horrific leg injury. 

     Its one thing having a huge dead money hit in one season as you reshuffle but this is a testament to how badly the cap was managed.

  9. 29 minutes ago, Stingray3030 said:

    I do understand that - but if they did that they guarantee they get nothing because he is a FA.  At least this way they have a chance.

    I would argue he would garner a comp pick and if he put the team on his back as he has many times his trade value the following year would be significantly improved.

    They have almost no chance of getting anything for him in this scenario because of his recent history and Corona meaning he can't prove his fitness.

    Its a worse case scenario for everyone. I can only guess that a man like Tepper who made his fortune in handling assets, deeply dislikes Newton and wants rid of him at any cost.

  10. 1 hour ago, Stingray3030 said:

    I agree with everyone that it sucks that we will likely get nothing for cam, but just out of curiosity when do you all think we should’ve traded him to get some value?  His health has been in question for three years. With all these other quarterbacks available why would anyone take a chance?

    That's why you let him play out his contract which is cheap at the position. He would be motivated to prove his fitness earn a contract elsewhere.

     If Tepper doesn't like him and wanted to move on then at least cut him early. This method is disrespectful to the face of the franchise, gives him no chance to find a team and minimizes returns. 

    • Pie 1

  11. 37 minutes ago, Daywa1ker said:

    Allen also beat Deshaun Watson. I'd still pick Deshaun every day and twice on Sunday.

    Teddy is a significant upgrade over Allen. Even though getting rid of Cam is beyond stupid, we're in a much better spot with Teddy than we would be otherwise.

    I think you're missing the point. Bridgewater being on the team or not makes zero difference. Hell, Watson or even Mahomes being on this team wouldn't make them win.

     You're paying a guy 60 mill. I don't like him but he WILL make the team better along with CMC without ever coming close to contending.

     Why not use a guy already on the roster who costs nothing and doesn't effect comp picks? If he suceeds you have an asset. If he doesn't you get a top QB in the draft. The point is there is no apparent strategy.

     In truth whoever is QB1 is in for a tough year. I can't imagine why Bridgewater would dream of joining the Panthers right now.

  12. I don't see a clear strategy forming out of FA.

    I don't see them acquiring draft capital.

    They aren't fixing an area of the team.

    They aren't going with a young roster.

    I don't understand the strategy of signing Bridgewater and letting a cheaper better QB walk, when he's more than earned the right to leave on his terms.

    I don't understand why they are screwing themselves out of comp picks.

    I don't understand the Trai Turner trade.

    If you're blowing it up fine, but why are you keeping the RB who will be wasted on a bad team?

    I just want someone to tell me if they're tanking or trying to compete. Because I genuinely can't tell.

    • Pie 1

  13. 9 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

    We have used money and free agent spots-against-comp picks on 2 scrubs and Tre Boston. I would have rather resigned Vernon Butler.

      I don't think they care. I mean they just want rid of Cam, as long as he's gone they don't care about getting anything back.. Gave away Trai Turner. Why would they care about comp picks? Its not like Gurney has ever picked a worthwhile player outside of round 1. VB had only contempt for this franchise. I'm glad he's gone.

  14. I love super Mario. You can't argue with his sack numbers and sets the edge well too. We will be worse without him but we won't win with his help for the next couple of years.

    So I agree with @stbugs if you're not going to try to win, let him go with a thank you and take the comp pick. Clear up the cap and start afresh. The only guy I don't want to lose is Moton, our only solid OL.

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