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PFF gives Moton props

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Taylor Moton was the 15th highest rated tackle in the NFL in pass blocking efficiency this past regular season according to Pro Football Focus, so it's no wonder that he was one of their 10 breakout performers in the NFL in 2018. 

"Moton was integral to keeping together an offensive line that very easily could have collapsed after losing both starting tackles in the preseason. The second-year player out of Western Michigan played all of 70 snaps as a rookie before 1,054 this season. Moton finished with the 15th best pass-blocking efficiency among tackles."

Damn, that kid's snaps went up exponentially and he stood up to the test. His efficiency is pretty amazing considering this was only year two, and that may be one reason why the decision was made to keep him at RT. He embodied "next man up" and "keep pounding" all rolled up into one. Can he do just as well on the left side over time? Perhaps we'll find out depending on Williams. But Moton obviously is an anchor on the right.

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-breakout-performances-of-the-2018-nfl-season?utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=cjaff&cjevent=ff21bcb115ca11e9838001cb0a240612

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He’s a guard and is worse than Kalil at LT. Just getting those out of the way.

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  • He may be the reason we are not worried about Williams--we are probably going to slow play him---allowing him to shop his skills after surgery.. A RT we know---a LT we hope, but there are NO SIGNS he will be moved to LT. 
  • Think about it---Williams on a second contract will be at least $10m--maybe more.  He is a question mark.  We still have the Kalil deal.  Maybe they let Williams go, make Moton the RT of the future, and draft a LT.  Lotta options.
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Just now, MHS831 said:
  • He may be the reason we are not worried about Williams. A RT we know---a LT we hope, but there are NO SIGNS he will be moved to LT. 

Yep. Not a single sign like playing 3 straight at LT when Williams was healthy.

It’s like a beacon for you and your opinion. I was joking with my quick reply but like a bug to a zapper you had to come in LT blazing. 

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3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

He’s a guard.

Nobody said that, but you need 3 syllable chants to help you understand things.  You were saying he is the LT of the future.  If the Panthers thought he was the LT of the future in 2018, he would have been the LT of the present.  LT is the second most important position on offense.  Or you could remain thick and recycle your invalid points.

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6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Yep. Not a single sign like playing 3 straight at LT when Williams was healthy.

It’s like a beacon for you and your opinion. I was joking with my quick reply but like a bug to a zapper you had to come in LT blazing. 

So you think you play your best T at  RT?  Explain.    And I imagine a bug zapper is your primary form of entertainment,  but congrats on using a simile---you must be preparing for your GED.

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

So you think you play your best T at  RT?  Explain.

Not saying that you're wrong, but of course there are likely nuances for each side. Moreover, you do have to take into account the chemistry of the entire line (because no man is really an island).

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7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Nobody said that, but you need 3 syllable chants to help you understand things.  You were saying he is the LT of the future.  If the Panthers thought he was the LT of the future in 2018, he would have been the LT of the present.  LT is the second most important position on offense.  Or you could remain thick and recycle your invalid points.

Umm, it was said multiple times even by you. You specifically said he was a better guard than tackle. I proved you wrong with his college accolades and ratings this year but you parroted that blurb from pre-draft.

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3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Not saying that you're wrong, but of course there are likely nuances for each side. Moreover, you do have to take into account the chemistry of the entire line (because no man is really an island).

He started a thread about how Moton didn’t play LT week 17 after he played 14 straight at RT and said it meant he can’t play. He appears to be trying to get people to believe it by re-posting his same dribble. Now he’s actually backed away already from his mention that Moton is a better guard. 

You are 100% right. If Moton is 100 at RT and 90 at LT and Clark’s play drops from 70 to 40 at RT then you play Moton at RT and Clark at LT for a better OL. And you also don’t take a guy playing a position for 14 weeks straight and move him for 1 week and change two spots on your OL instead of 1.

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12 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

So you think you play your best T at  RT?  Explain.    And I imagine a bug zapper is your primary form of entertainment,  but congrats on using a simile---you must be preparing for your GED.

Oh, btw, I would be extremely happy to share my diplomas with @RoaringRiot (as an extremely reputable person and know IRL) if you’d want to do the same and compare. I’d bet $1000 that my college is ranked much higher than yours.

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15 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

So you think you play your best T at  RT?  Explain.    And I imagine a bug zapper is your primary form of entertainment,  but congrats on using a simile---you must be preparing for your GED.

Also, my last post before I turn off my zapper. Do you truly think that teams never rush good players over the RT? Von Miller Super Bowl? Cam Jordan’s sack in the playoffs last year? TJ Watt’s spear that brought down Cam this year? All on the RT. You are just caught up in LT as if RT is meaningless.

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In all fairness, Taylor Moton can play anywhere on the offensive line with the exception of center (and right guard, but that's only because Trai Turner has that held down).

If DWill is retained, then we can plug Moton in at either LT or LG. If we go out and get a veteran guard in free agency or draft one that is able to start when the season begins, bye Kalil. If we decide to stay with Kalil for one more season for whatever reason, Moton takes over at LG and we see who comes out of the camp battle for center (Van Roten, Larsen, or a draft pick?)

I'm super happy about the Moton pick. His versatility is a blessing. We've got a Pro Bowl RG and the possibility to keep a top RT. Lock that side of the line down and plug Moton in wherever we need him on the left side.

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4 hours ago, stbugs said:

He started a thread about how Moton didn’t play LT week 17 after he played 14 straight at RT and said it meant he can’t play. He appears to be trying to get people to believe it by re-posting his same dribble. Now he’s actually backed away already from his mention that Moton is a better guard. 

You are 100% right. If Moton is 100 at RT and 90 at LT and Clark’s play drops from 70 to 40 at RT then you play Moton at RT and Clark at LT for a better OL. And you also don’t take a guy playing a position for 14 weeks straight and move him for 1 week and change two spots on your OL instead of 1.

Reading comprehension---let it work for you.  No---my thread was simply this--If Moton is the LT of the future, he would have been playing LT all season.  You and a few other numbskulls said that he was at RT because Clark could not play RT---that makes no frigging sense--because you would have signed a street free agent to play RT---they are easier to find. 

Your argument above suggests that RT and LT are equal--they are not---you play your best LT at LT--we never had to sign Clark--if you think we sacrificed Cam's blind side to accommodate a street free agent you are not flaunting intelligence.  We would have moved Moton to LT and signed a RT--like Newhouse or another of many who can play RT.  Damn son.

 

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I think Moton will be moved to LG and we'll draft a LT. That would be the smart move imo.

We'll need to actually have linemen who can hold up when we go back to throwing the deep ball. Everyone looks great when the ball is coming out fast.

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