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Mr. Scot

Kyle Bailey suggests defense going 3-4 is an option

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What was put on the field this season, whatever the opposite of that is, need to be put on the field next season

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1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

We were doing that in 2011. At the time it wasnt considered forward thinking but desparation.

The Ravens did this forever ago in the early 2000s. It may be effective but this "forward thinking" term seems not to mean much other than it comes from a 30 something coach.

Those defenses you're referencing versus the current Bears and Chargers are not the same. Who was our EDGE OLB in 2011 that we were using standing and hands in the dirt? I get the argument you are looking to make but you're not framing it correctly at all. Ravens were not a base 4-3 with Lewis. 

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Teams are using interiors that can collapse the pocket and athletic edge talent. There's no problem in try to grab those types as well. 

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I use to hate the yearly debate about switching to a 3-4 from fans whom simply couldn't grasp that ya can't do that with the same linemen and linebackers. 

Here we are, it's the most possible that it has been. Not saying it will happen, but this would be the time as far as making it an easier transition, considering the young guys we have on the team. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

Hell why not. We are trying to play a base 4-3 with no DE’s right now. 

Agree, as long as changes are made I am good.  I really hope this is true.

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4 hours ago, Pimpdaddy said:

yea...we don't have enough LB's do we?

Arguably only luke and shaq would fit as the two Mike's. Addison could play as one edge. We don't have another edge, although one.could argue hayes is better suited as an edge rusher in a 3-4. 

We could get by with our current linemen. Horton would actually be a good fit as one of de''s. Short can play the other.  Between butler, Poe, and love, I'm confident we can.make do at nose tackle. 

There ya go, without any new draft picks. 

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4 hours ago, trueblade said:

Ah least this would be a new wrinkle for Atlanta and New Orleans to figure out. They seem to have the current scheme down pretty well. 

The Saints scored 12 points on us with all of their starters. Not the best example to use.

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42 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Arguably only luke and shaq would fit as the two Mike's. Addison could play as one edge. We don't have another edge, although one.could argue hayes is better suited as an edge rusher in a 3-4. 

We could get by with our current linemen. Horton would actually be a good fit as one of de''s. Short can play the other.  Between butler, Poe, and love, I'm confident we can.make do at nose tackle. 

There ya go, without any new draft picks. 

Why do ppl keep saying Mario can play OLB in a 3/4?? 

Just because he is about that size doesn't mean he has the skill or the time to develop them..

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Ya know, the switch to 3-4 actually is far-fetched this time...We were going to have to re-haul much of the D anyways. I could see this working well if we can get a few more big bodies for the line. This would actually be a perfect storm for Haynes because he was a 3-4 OLB in college and can't put on the weight to be a 4-3 DE. Interesting to think about. 

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4 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

I'm sorry I disagree..  I don't think we have anybody on the team now who is a starter quality 3/4 Olb.. I know ppl think Mario can do it but I've seen him drop back in pass coverage and it isn't good.. Plus he's past the age where he can just make that change body and mind wise.. If we make this move Mario should be cut to have money and get some actual 3/4 outside lb.. Hayes may have a chance but that's it.. This change would cost way more than getting a DE..

Best post I've seen on this... these people saying KK at DE and Mario/Mayo at OLB clearly haven't really watched any of those players play.  You can't just flip a switch to a 3-4 on a whim... it takes a number of seasons to acquire the correct players for the scheme via draft and/or FA.  We don't have any in our current front 7 that could be true 3-4 fits, aside from Poe and Luke.

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6 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

Best post I've seen on this... these people saying KK at DE and Mario/Mayo at OLB clearly haven't really watched any of those players play.  You can't just flip a switch to a 3-4 on a whim... it takes a number of seasons to acquire the correct players for the scheme via draft and/or FA.  We don't have any in our current front 7 that could be true 3-4 fits, aside from Poe and Luke.

Thinking more about it.. Poe and Luke are truly the only players we have that fit a 3/4 defense..  I don't understand what other ppl are seeing other than body types maybe..

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18 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

Best post I've seen on this... these people saying KK at DE and Mario/Mayo at OLB clearly haven't really watched any of those players play.  You can't just flip a switch to a 3-4 on a whim... it takes a number of seasons to acquire the correct players for the scheme via draft and/or FA.  We don't have any in our current front 7 that could be true 3-4 fits, aside from Poe and Luke.

Depends on the transition.  I agree that Addison is not suitable for an EDGE role.  He plays with them muddy fingertips as the old crew says.  KK wouldn't have a big leap however.  He already plays 1 through 5 tech with us.  It's within his capacity as it stands.  

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1 hour ago, saX man said:

Depends on the transition.  I agree that Addison is not suitable for an EDGE role.  He plays with them muddy fingertips as the old crew says.  KK wouldn't have a big leap however.  He already plays 1 through 5 tech with us.  It's within his capacity as it stands.  

If I give you KK.. With real  faults like his drop in production this season, his age, and the fact he never played the position before.. That still only 3 players in a front 7 that still needs 12 to 13 more players (starters and depth) to make this even a viable option. .. I'm just looking at reality..

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1 hour ago, saX man said:

Depends on the transition.  I agree that Addison is not suitable for an EDGE role.  He plays with them muddy fingertips as the old crew says.  KK wouldn't have a big leap however.  He already plays 1 through 5 tech with us.  It's within his capacity as it stands.  

I think Addison could do it, he was project as a 3-4 olb in the draft as his best position professionally

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