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1 minute ago, lightsout said:

This was Mueller politely asking to not be rolled into a Congressional hearing. Not out of fear, but because (as he said) his report is his testimony. Every thought and action in regards to the investigation he headed is in the report. There's nothing left for him to say. This press conference was to answer the questions he'd get asked in Congress if brought there and to plainly state, straight from his mouth, what the Republicans are misrepresenting or are misinformed on. 

Not an exoneration. Not in his power to indict a sitting president per his agency's policy (directly contradicting Barr who said recommending charges is the job of Mueller). Laid out, very plainly, that there WERE obstructive acts committed by Trump and members of his team in regards to the investigation. 

All of that he is now verbally on the record saying. It's not up for interpretation. None of it shocks most of us because we all knew it because we read the report or we listened to people who quoted directly from the report. Either way, the republicans can try to spin this all they want but the facts are the facts.

Dems have a short window here to act. Longer you wait now that Mueller has spoken, the more power you give Trump to spin this as "see, they know they can't do anything". 

Until they hit him with an impeachment hearing right before the election.

Mueller didn’t say he wouldn’t testify. He said basically he wouldn’t testify further on questions that don’t pertain to what’s in the report. Which said very bluntly, he would welcome circumstantial questions regarding to the evidence leading to the report(that has still not been seen by anyone but him). They have to be phrased right. He also basically said he wouldn’t do an open door testimony to remain unpartisan. 

But more overly, he said he would answer further questions in an impeachment hearing, in an open door hearing.

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As an example:

“Bank A, what was there involvement” 

That didn’t come up in the report. That the public knows of. So he wouldn’t answer said question.  

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

everyone doesn't agree.  Trumpers just now change the words like the Press Secretary just did.

Instead of Mueller said

It is the AG said, no collusion.  no obstruction. (the guy literally hired to do the cover up )

literally all Mueller said.  Is he could charge anyone with a greater conspiracy charge.  That's it.  And he went on to explain how obstruction can prohibit being able to get there.  

There was collusion.  There was obstruction.   Trump should be impeached for a variety of things.  He could be impeached just for acts w/ the Mueller report not even factoring. 

What specifically are the offenses?

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14 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

As an example:

“Bank A, what was there involvement” 

That didn’t come up in the report. That the public knows of. So he wouldn’t answer said question.  

 

Ok that makes sense. Thanks for the clarity

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1 minute ago, lightsout said:

 

Ok that makes sense. Thanks for the clarity

 Not saying that he wants to appear in the first place. But once you delve down into the verbiage he used, he did stipulate on the circumstance he would appear. 

It was all just a showing for one. 

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1 minute ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Read the report you goddamned idiot

He never will. That’s the thing about Trumpers. If trump is there leader what does that make them?

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pelosi keeps getting more and more emphatic that she won't impeach under any circumstances. remember when people (including ones here) were shitting on AOC because she didn't want pelosi as speaker?

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Is there anything in that report that is actually against the law?

a special counsel can issue supenoas, bring indictments, which mueller did none of...because he has nothing on the President of substance

he says he can’t completely clear the President, but finds no collusion occurred....what does that even mean??

he is now trying to get the dims in Congress to clean up his mess and they are taking the bait hook, line, and sinker

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19 minutes ago, rodeo said:

pelosi keeps getting more and more emphatic that she won't impeach under any circumstances. remember when people (including ones here) were shitting on AOC because she didn't want pelosi as speaker?

Pelosi actually being smart

an impeachment trial would feature more dims yelling and screaming and looking foolish while finding nothing against the law

then the senate would give them all a one handed salute 

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3 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Pelosi actually being smart

an impeachment trial would feature more dims yelling and screaming and finding nothing against the law

then the senate would give them all a one handed salute 

You haven't read the report

Nothing say here is relevant

Fug off

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9 minutes ago, rodeo said:

pelosi keeps getting more and more emphatic that she won't impeach under any circumstances. remember when people (including ones here) were shitting on AOC because she didn't want pelosi as speaker?

Come on, I know you are smart enough to see the larger picture. 

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9 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Is there anything in that report that is actually against the law?

As Kev said, you haven’t read the report. 

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