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Second mass shooting in less than 24 hours: 9 dead in Dayton

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52 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

Yeah I can't believe this video games drum is still getting beat.    Games are worldwide and some of the biggest gamer countries (South Korea, Japan, etc) aren't having these same problems.    

just Marilyn Manson part II

there is one clear thing that sets us apart and it is the one thing the right bends over backwards to deny. 

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Also worth noting, one of Trump’s first acts as POTUS was to make it easier for the mentally ill to have guns 

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33 minutes ago, CRA said:

Also worth noting, one of Trump’s first acts as POTUS was to make it easier for the mentally ill to have guns 

This continues to be an ignorant statement.  The ACLU and the NRA both established that removing ones civil right required due process.  

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/15/17016036/trump-guns-mental-illness

Not at the whim of a government agency without recourse.  Give you an example.  Let's just say that anyone/everybody that has had ADHD medications that have a lack of ability of self control or acting out impulses, should be banned from owning firearms.  Surgeon General just announces this.  You think that is sound policy?

 

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"Michelle and I grieve with all the families in El Paso and Dayton who endured these latest mass shootings. Even if details are still emerging, there are a few things we already know to be true.
First, no other nation on Earth comes close to experiencing the frequency of mass shootings that we see in the United States. No other developed nation tolerates the levels of gun violence that we do. Every time this happens, we’re told that tougher gun laws won’t stop all murders; that they won’t stop every deranged individual from getting a weapon and shooting innocent people in public places. But the evidence shows that they can stop some killings. They can save some families from heartbreak. We are not helpless here. And until all of us stand up and insist on holding public officials accountable for changing our gun laws, these tragedies will keep happening.
Second, while the motivations behind these shootings may not yet be fully known, there are indications that the El Paso shooting follows a dangerous trend: troubled individuals who embrace racist ideologies and see themselves obligated to act violently to preserve white supremacy. Like the followers of ISIS and other foreign terrorist organizations, these individuals may act alone, but they’ve been radicalized by white nationalist websites that proliferate on the internet. That means that both law enforcement agencies and internet platforms need to come up with better strategies to reduce the influence of these hate groups.
But just as important, all of us have to send a clarion call and behave with the values of tolerance and diversity that should be the hallmark of our democracy. We should soundly reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds a climate of fear and hatred or normalizes racist sentiments; leaders who demonize those who don’t look like us, or suggest that other people, including immigrants, threaten our way of life, or refer to other people as sub-human, or imply that America belongs to just one certain type of people. Such language isn’t new — it’s been at the root of most human tragedy throughout history, here in America and around the world. It is at the root of slavery and Jim Crow, the Holocaust, the genocide in Rwanda and ethnic cleansing in the Balkans. It has no place in our politics and our public life. And it’s time for the overwhelming majority of Americans of goodwill, of every race and faith and political party, to say as much — clearly and unequivocally

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Trump can blame video games, mental illness, etc. and give us the usual, "Guns don't kill people; people kill people" speech all day long. And, to a point, he is correct. But he must also shoulder some of the blame because he has never believed or listened to those who've repeatedly told him, "Your words matter."

You cannot stand in front of a crowd of people smiling as they chant, "Send them back."

You cannot allow people to tell you the best way to stop immigration is to shoot people.

You cannot label white supremacists as "very fine people."

You cannot categorize immigrants as rapists and murderers.

Most of these nutjobs need an impetus, they need a slight push, they need a word of encouragement that tells them it's okay. They need someone to goad them into these evil acts.

And when one of these nutjobs is quoting Trump and Fox News/Tucker Carlson is his manifesto, they are just as evil as 8chan & Qanon because they, too, are furthering the agenda of hate in this country. And, just in case you have any doubt in your mind, what's the over/under on how long it takes before Trump sends out another of his divisive tweets? 

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11 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

We should soundly reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds a climate of fear and hatred or normalizes racist sentiments; leaders who demonize those who don’t look like us, or suggest that other people, including immigrants, threaten our way of life, or refer to other people as sub-human, or imply that America belongs to just one certain type of people. Such language isn’t new — it’s been at the root of most human tragedy throughout history, here in America and around the world. It is at the root of slavery and Jim Crow, the Holocaust, the genocide in Rwanda and ethnic cleansing in the Balkans. It has no place in our politics and our public life. And it’s time for the overwhelming majority of Americans of goodwill, of every race and faith and political party, to say as much — clearly and unequivocally

Don't want to name names...... but Trump.

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4 hours ago, Manther said:

This is an excellent post and I think sums up the reasoning for the anti religious attitude people have in this discussion. 

Prayers are offered by religious people for every situation above. 

 

And how have the thoughts & prayers helped?

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3 minutes ago, 332nd said:

And how have the thoughts & prayers helped?

What do you think the purpose of thoughts and prayers are?

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1 minute ago, g5jamz said:

What do you think the purpose of thoughts and prayers are?

What do you think thoughts & prayers actually do to help?

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Just now, 332nd said:

What do you think thoughts & prayers actually do to help?

To someone that appreciates it, tons.

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The whole "thoughts & prayers" thing is what started my study, understanding and realization of atheism many years ago. So I am appreciative in that respect.

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51 minutes ago, g5jamz said:

To someone that appreciates it, tons.

"What does it do?"

"Tons".

Oddly they prefer handling abortion with action instead of thoughts & prayers.

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