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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Bell was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2011.

I think it was the fact that we were unwilling to bring in another option that bugged me the most.  He was good for an UDFA OT.  But to sit with him and Chandler and be like, “ok, these are the guys” and they sucked the whole year when everyone knew they would was the problem 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Bell was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2011.

Who made the left handed comment? 

Who said the answer is on the roster in regard to replacing Gross?

You cant run from this with irrelevant comments when your boy ignored the tackle issue.

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23 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

People still blaming Rivera for the line Gman dealt him. 

We could of had Gross and Smith for that 2015 season if DG had more tact.

We wouldn’t have had ‘15 without gettleman. End of story.

Which let me remind you he did while trying to pick up the pieces from Hurneys first mess. 

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8 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Who made the left handed comment? 

Who said the answer is on the roster in regard to replacing Gross?

You cant run from this with irrelevant comments when your boy ignored the tackle issue.

“He’s done some things on the left side that he didn’t do on the right side that have been impressive,” Rivera said. “But the biggest thing we keep forgetting is, he’s a natural left-hander."

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And again, does nobody ever remember that Michael Oher played here?

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11 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

I think it was the fact that we were unwilling to bring in another option that bugged me the most.  He was good for an UDFA OT.  But to sit with him and Chandler and be like, “ok, these are the guys” and they sucked the whole year when everyone knew they would was the problem 

Again, Michael Oher the following year.

The whole narrative that Gettleman ignored the tackle position is completely uninformed. he did have to work around a pretty restrictive salary cap situation for a while though.

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7 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Who made the left handed comment? 

Who said the answer is on the roster in regard to replacing Gross?

You cant run from this with irrelevant comments when your boy ignored the tackle issue.

Rivera made the comment about left handed. 
 

And with 27M in dead cap space, what were we supposed to acquire? 
 

And by the end of the year, we had the O-line that went 15-1 by just adding Oher. 

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, Michael Oher the following year.

The whole narrative that Gettleman ignored the tackle position is completely uninformed. he did have to work around a pretty restrictive salary cap situation for a while though.

Oher was a great signing and a big reason we went 15-1 that year.  Wish he could’ve stayed healthy.  I guess I’m extra salty because my best friend is a Philly fan and we went to the Panthers-Eagles game in Philly in 2014.  Our O Line was decimated from the get go and he’s never let me live it down.  

 

Better times have come.  It feels good to have actual, quality OL depth.  Let’s internet hug over our Big Uglies.

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24 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

Oher was a great signing and a big reason we went 15-1 that year.  Wish he could’ve stayed healthy.  I guess I’m extra salty because my best friend is a Philly fan and we went to the Panthers-Eagles game in Philly in 2014.  Our O Line was decimated from the get go and he’s never let me live it down.  

Better times have come.  It feels good to have actual, quality OL depth.  Let’s internet hug over our Big Uglies.

I still have questions about our current lineup.

I'll feel a lot better if Greg Little proves he can stay healthy (ditto Trai Turner) and Matt Paradis proves he can be consistent.

I do also think they're benefiting from a quick passing game, but truth be told that's probably true of a lot of lines across the league.

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Turner at least practicing...its way past time for him to be on the field

is little ever going to play again?

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I still have questions about our current lineup.

I'll feel a lot better if Greg Little proves he can stay healthy (ditto Trai Turner) and Matt Paradis proves he can be consistent.

I do also think they're benefiting from a quick passing game, but truth be told that's probably true of a lot of lines across the league.

Little has shown zero indication that he can stay on the field

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18 hours ago, MechaZain said:
19 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Nobody thought it was a bad idea until it proved to be a bad idea.

Not true. A lot of people don't even think he's a particularly good RT.

I, for 1, was excited when we re-signed him this off season.He'd been a better than average right tackle prior to his injury, and I thought that Moton could probably slide to the left. Also, who would have dared to dream that, after years and years, we would draft not 1, but 2 left tackles?!? 

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16 hours ago, PandaMan said:

I think it was the fact that we were unwilling to bring in another option that bugged me the most.  He was good for an UDFA OT.  But to sit with him and Chandler and be like, “ok, these are the guys” and they sucked the whole year when everyone knew they would was the problem 

That wasn't how it went though. The team had little to no cap space for multiple seasons following Hurney 1.0's contract bonanza, and we had to completely rebuild the roster after JR had it gutted in preparation for the 2011 lockout.

The team had close to $130M committed to the 2014 cap after the franchise tag for Greg Hardy (hindsight is 20/20, but I bet the same users bemoaning that move also have multiple posts screaming to retain Hardy after his big season). The entire OL aside from center had to be rebuilt while the salary cap was still over 20% (15+% from Hurney 1.0 contracts) dead money. Another 15%+ was committed to CJ (8% by himself), DWill, and JStew. This gives us over 35% of the cap already committed to dead money and 3 players. That's why Bell was slated to be a stop-gap after Gross retired, and Garry Williams was the designated RT leading into the season but broke his ankle which was what led to Nate Chandler.

This was also during a time when Cam was encouraged to take off when protection broke down rather than sit there and get headhunted. :(

It's ironic though to complain about the OL decisions during 2014, especially since we landed Andrew Norwell in UDFA and Trai Turner in the 3rd while going to the Super Bowl with one of the OTs (Mike Remmers) we brought in to finish the season after Chandler went down.

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