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Panthers open to Newton Trade(Rapoport)

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3 hours ago, WarHeel said:

The derangement in this place. A source is only valid when it fits YOUR narrative. 

Isn't that America in a nutshell today? 

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In fairness, it seems kind of...good for us? The part that has never made sense is outright cutting him to save money. Feel like Tepper would also agree, to not give up a valuable asset for essentially nothing. This would make it seem like the two options are:

Not cutting a healthy Cam meaning he's either our QB next year, or they're trading him for a massive haul in the last year of his deal. Either option is far superior to the previous rumors of him just being cut to save money. 

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OBJ is reportedly asking teams to come get him. We rather trade Cam instead of getting him weapons and a new fresh OC and building up the oline so when a next QB does come, he'll be set with protection.

This franchise clueless

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13 minutes ago, Snake said:

Isn't that America in a nutshell today? 

Touché 

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2 hours ago, raz said:

and the same couple people coming in every time saying it must be about racism, when its not.   its pretty telling that the people who don't mind moving on from cam are all interested in some of the black qb's coming out in the draft.   again, being ok with moving on from a black qb does not make you racist.  thinking black people can't play qb does.

I don’t think anyone has stated it won’t happen at all. Most have said if it does happen it will be a dumb move instead of waiting to see if he can get healthy.

The flip side is those who say it’s already decided and a forgone conclusion. Could it be because of valid reasons? Sure but show me one that has said it’s a done deal that he is gone that has a smart reason for it. 
 

He has 1 year left on his deal. He’ll be paid middle of the pack for QBs. 

He hasn’t had a healthy season in 2 years. We have 2-4 major options involving Cam

1.) Keep him on a prove it deal and see if he can get and stay healthy

2.) He sits out the final year not wanting to play on a one year deal meaning teams haven’t seen him healthy in 3 years which hurts his stock

3.) Trade him (which either nets us a king’s ransom because another team believes he he is/will be healthy) or we get poo offers (which means teams don’t believe he is/can be) and at that point why get rid of him?

4.) Release him which means we get nothing back and don’t give him a shot to get healthy meaning we just yanked our entire franchise for literally no reason

Not one of the forgone conclusion assholes can give a valid reason as to why they say it’s already decided and it makes sense because there isn’t a valid reason to believe it’s decided already. Oh it also helps lend to my thought process that those who say it’s already done that they can’t not knock Cam or bring him up in convos that aren’t about him. Strange huh? 

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4 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

Two years left on Luke’s contract. So it’s not really 100 million. But this raises the question if Luke is gonna be given another contract. Next year is when we would start talks about an extension. I know people don’t wanna hear this but we might not extend Luke or he might retire or we might try to trade him. I agree that if we extend Luke that is way too much money to give linebackers.

i really am thinking this might be a total rebuild and we move on from Cam and Luke within these next two year which really sucks and is sad we squandered their talents.

but based on Tepper talking about looking at this from a future perspective it might take 4 or 5 years. That doesn’t seem to include Cam or Luke based on their ages.

Uh Luke is like 27 and is the best MLB in the league. I just don’t understand this so-called logic of getting a great player in the draft and then hoping we trade him for a chance at an equally great player in the draft, who people would then want traded in two years for another chance at a great player in the draft. 

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Some of our fan base should exclusively watch the draft in April and ignore the games since there’s already discussion of trading our MVP-caliber 23-year-old RB. It’s like that Family Guy episode where Peter can choose between a boat and a mystery box. That’s our fan base. 

“The boat is a boat. I’ll pick the box. The box could be anything. It could even be a boat!”

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Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Uh Luke is like 27 and is the best MLB in the league. I just don’t understand this so-called logic of getting a great player in the draft and then hoping we trade him for a chance at an equally great player in the draft, who people would then want traded in two years for another chance at a great player in the draft. 

He’s 28 and will be 30 years old at the end of this contract.  
 

I don’t want to trade or not offer Luke a contract. But you should get comfy with the possibility that does happen.

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Just now, TheRumGone said:

He’s 28 and will be 30 years old at the end of this contract.  
 

I don’t want to trade or not offer Luke a contract. But you should get comfy with the possibility that does happen.

I feel like that in spite of our fans whining we hang on to players too long, we have very, very few good guys who spend their whole careers here — a much smaller number than any other team since free agency began. 

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Just now, Carl Spackler said:

I feel like that in spite of our fans whining we hang on to players too long, we have very, very few good guys who spend their whole careers here — a much smaller number than any other team since free agency began. 

Luke is gonna start declining after 30 physically. It’s rare that doesn’t happen. We just gave Shaq who is 25, 57 million. The writing is kind of on the wall. 
 

you don’t lock up two linebackers over 100 million and expect to be successful. There is also a strong possibility Luke retires like Patrick Willis did at age 30
 

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3 hours ago, WarHeel said:

The derangement in this place. A source is only valid when it fits YOUR narrative. 

Happens every time, even when Igo posts a tidbit.  Certain posters start crying Fake News!!! :'( like a certain cheeto in chief.

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Didn't read the article, but of course we are open to it.  

If the Bengals reached out and said we will give you our first, second, and third for Cam, we would do it in a heartbeat.  The question is not whether we are open, the question is what would it take?  

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4 hours ago, bobowilson said:

So we're going to save 18 million dollars on Cam, but spend 16 million dollars on Shaq Thompson

No matter how hurt Cam is, in which reality is Shaq Thompson worth 89% as much money as Cam Newton

I don't think the 18m has anything to do with any decision to trade or keep Cam.  It is the $30m a year in the following years.

 

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Why would any team trade for Cam if the panthers have given up in him??? It obviously means he’s done, cause no team is dumb enough to give up on a healthy franchise QB

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