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Ian Thomas hopes he’ll be Greg Olsen’s heir

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I am trying to figure out if there is a way I can unsee that image.

I share Thomas' hopes.  As we know, Rivera was nothing if not stubborn.  Once a player gets in his doghouse, it almost takes an act of God to get them out.

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I wish him the best, those are mighty big shoes to fill. Hopefully he learned a lot from Greg over the last couple of seasons. Do remember, though, that Greg hasn't always been very healthy and there have been opportunities for Thomas to step up.

We've seen a few flashes, but just a few, in some very imperfect seasons. Yet, when things get tough and your star players are out, a team needs to be able to lean on their tight end frequently, from blocking to getting the tough yards. Stepping up is tough, hope he can do it.

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3 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

Stands to reason he'll be competing with a draft pick for that title.

I would agree, but with DT (3t and 1t), OL, CB, S, DE, QB, WR, etc--and the weak TE draft, TE may be addressed in Free agency---we shall see.

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Without a big WR, The TE position is important--especially as a checkdown for a new QB--if that is what happens.

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I think Thomas can fill in at a respectable level, in his rookie year during Greg's extended absence I would say we didn't miss much of a beat in the TE receiving department, and much of that was with Cam and the ''bad'' shoulder. Versus CLE was a small little coming out party of sorts probably his best all-around game as a rookie. 

Considering our cap, I'd rather we move forward with Thomas, and Manhertz then bring in a 3rd TE via the draft to develop. It's time we see what we really have in Ian in my opinion.

 

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6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Fair enough--let's play.

There were other reasons in the media, and interviews that revealed speculation that Thomas was in RR's dog house, but this is what I meant more than anything else:  Have you ever been the third string player?  During the season, do you know how much attention a #3 gets?  On an individual basis, a very small percentage.  Yes, you attend skull sessions and hear group directives- you run through the drills and the coach might give you a tip, but most of the help you get is from other players or on your own---you watch film by yourself, work on the jugs machine after practice, and you study the play book.  You do not get to go against the #1s much, and you get about 20% of the reps the #1 gets in practice. Heck, a lot of the time the position coach is talking to the #1 when the #3s are getting their scattered reps.  To assume a #3 in RR's doghouse was getting coached up is simply not real world.  Olsen was--Manhertz was--Thomas?  again, gets about a fifth of the attention.

I watched OTAs every year for a decade.  I noticed that the longshots were not given a lot of attention.  Even after making the roster, the week-to-week is focused on game planning with the players that will be in the game.

So that is what I meant.  

How much time do you think they really dedicated in practice to coaching up Greg Olsen lol.  Hell, how many practices did he even attend in the last two seasons with his injuries + vet days? Sounds like you're just making blanket statements about starters vs. bench players without considering the specific circumstances here.

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Her we go with the 'pump'....thinking we have something at TE....he aint the answer...

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Quasi-relatedly, Olsen is pretty good in the booth.

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I was a fan of TE Ian Thomas in the 2018 draft class. The final line from his scouting report: "Overall, Thomas is still raw in several areas and won’t be an immediate NFL starter, but he has starter (and star) potential with his balanced athleticism and developing strength."
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Hes stuck in rarely large group of panther players, hes not good enough not to look for a upgrade tier...   

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