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Nothing would be better then if we win and the pats upset Seattle. The media hysteria on Monday would be hilarious. 

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Brady is notorious for going 0-2 then generally not losing another game until the Super Bowl is won though... or was it belichick all along? 

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11 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Brady is notorious for going 0-2 then generally not losing another game until the Super Bowl is won though... or was it belichick all along? 

Brady is done.  Father time is undefeated

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15 minutes ago, NAS said:

Brady is done.  Father time is undefeated

There's really little evidence to support the opinion that he's done. There was plenty of "undone" Brady between a few boneheaded throws.

You must remember that this is the first time he's playing in a new offense for another franchise. 

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The media meltdown even if over exaggerated would be amazing. Every game this year is going to be such a microscopic event that the scrutiny through the first 4 weeks will be like nothing we will probably experience again. I want this, neigh I need this. I would also love to see ATL lose again to sweeten things a bit. 

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20 minutes ago, top dawg said:

There's really little evidence to support the opinion that he's done. There was plenty of "undone" Brady between a few boneheaded throws.

You must remember that this is the first time he's playing in a new offense for another franchise. 

It depends on your standard for Brady.  He is done as a top 10 QB, but he can still be a serviceable starting QB, but more like bottom 10. 

The deterioration started two years ago.  It was really evident last year but people kept blaming his weapons and his offensive line.  Now he has the weapons and nobody left to blame.  Both of the interceptions were terrible throws. 

He will rebound against us because of our defense but his numbers this year will be below average and his team won't even make the playoffs. 

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59 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Brady is notorious for going 0-2 then generally not losing another game until the Super Bowl is won though... or was it belichick all along? 

Brady isn't notorious for doing anything with the Bucs. The Panthers are a whole new set and the Bucs are a 1/2 new set. We have the opportunity to create the narrative here. We need our pass rush to bring that heat...

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1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

Brady is notorious for going 0-2 then generally not losing another game until the Super Bowl is won though... or was it belichick all along? 

We all know Brady may not ever see another SB the rest of his career and retire with just 6 rings. Brady does have those ticked off moments after losing a game and he miraculously gets back to winning games through the season but that was with the Patriots. Brady will have struggles pretty much for the first time in his career without BB as HC.

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At this point, Brady needs to be treated like the Broncos managed Peyton at the end of his career. He can manage a game but if you're asking him to drive the ball down the field and routinely make tough throws you're probably not going to enjoy the results. Unfortunately for the Bucs, that's Arian's offense.

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1 hour ago, top dawg said:

There's really little evidence to support the opinion that he's done. There was plenty of "undone" Brady between a few boneheaded throws.

You must remember that this is the first time he's playing in a new offense for another franchise. 

His arm is so damn weak, and there's no evidence that he could have success outside of the Pats' system so if I were a Bucs fan I would not be getting my hopes up about this season... Brady was flat out bad much of last year.

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17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

At this point, Brady needs to be treated like the Broncos managed Peyton at the end of his career. He can manage a game but if you're asking him to drive the ball down the field and routinely make tough throws you're probably not going to enjoy the results. Unfortunately for the Bucs, that's Arian's offense.

Which is why I've said since they signed Brady it was a big mistake. They have weapons but shaky OL and Brady can't consistently make the needed throws for Arians' offense at this point in his career. Just wasting guys like Evans and Howard downfield. Winston, as stupid as he can be at times, would actually be better for them. There's a reason the guy threw for 5000 yards and 30 TDs.

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Just now, t96 said:

Which is why I've said since they signed Brady it was a big mistake. They have weapons but shaky OL and Brady can't consistently make the needed throws for Arians' offense at this point in his career. Just wasting guys like Evans and Howard downfield. Winston, as stupid as he can be at times, would actually be better for them. There's a reason the guy threw for 5000 yards and 30 TDs.

Yeah, physically Winston is the much better fit. The bad part is that when you combine a naturally risk taking offense with a gun slinger mentality QB you have all the makings of a 30 INT season. If Arians had a Mahomes or Rodgers he'd be set, but then again so would practically any other offensive minded coach.

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Arians runs a vertical attack . . . Brady has serious questions surrounding his arm strength.  I do not understand why anyone thought Tampa was a good fit for Brady.  Jameis Winston was actually a good fit in that offense with regards to arm strength.  His problem was his decision making.  Put Jameis arm on Brady's body right now and that team could win it all.

But that ain't what's going on.

Listen, I think this is gonna be a tough game for us.  The Saints offense DID NOT win that game.  They were under 300 yards of total offense, less than 200 yards passing, and punted six times.  You force the Saints to punt six times, and you gotta feel ok about your defense.

That game was flat out lost by the Bucs offense.  They punted five times and turned it over three times.  That's losing football.

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1 hour ago, top dawg said:

There's really little evidence to support the opinion that he's done. There was plenty of "undone" Brady between a few boneheaded throws.

You must remember that this is the first time he's playing in a new offense for another franchise. 

I saw some excellent throws downfield. I was definitely on the "he's done" bandwagon but it didn't look like that at all in that game. 

Remember, and we should know this better than most fanbases, Brady really wilts when you get sustained pressure on him. Plus, that offense is really designed for him to fail. You took something successful in New England and immediately threw it straight out the window to implement  Arians outdated offensive ideology.  Make no mistake about it, they are not tailoring that offense to their strengths, their weaknesses nor Tom Brady.

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