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I can't see a world where the money goes down, but maybe your lottery odds are now your contract numbers you can offer. Thunder? You can offer Flagg 4 years, 20 million. Hornets? You can offer Flagg 4 years, 80 million. Some form of a system where the money is still there, but so is the freedom of choice (on top of bad teams getting *some* competitive advantage to signing them).

For the record, the Draft is fun...but I wish they'd find a way to get rid of it. It is borderline crazy that pro athletes are just about the only profession where you don't have really any say on where you're going to work, live, etc. Free agency for all would come with issues, but I'd be interested in it. Want to go to the contender? Then prepare to take less money. Only care about your paycheck or getting your stats? Then welcome to the bad teams with cap space.

https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1938614224009203810 Wow I was told he bought in

Well, he was in probably every NBA franchise's top 6 or 7. Obviously it's nice to take the swing and it work out. But when a guy refuses to work out for your team, is probably the guy refusing to play with LaMelo, has sketchy handlers, etc.? You want...to take that swing? A desperate team does, sure. Which the Hornets are. But a smart team doesn't. Which is what they will hopefully become. Kon isn't a superstar, but his floor is Kyle Korver. Is that what you want in the 4th pick? Not really, but he's your 4th guy on a good team and what I think Charles Lee wants in a player. Trade down would've been nice, but for who? Tre Johnson would've been my guy, but he's gone if we trade with Brooklyn. If Washington wanted Ace, I doubt it would've taken much to come get him. Trade down and get Maluach (knowing you're trading Mark) would make sense and may have been the play, but I think Kon helps the team on the court and changing a culture. Not so sure about some of the guys in the 8-12 range.

Until LaMelo is traded, this is an unserious organization anyway. There's an insane lack of talent, and the talent all comes with baggage and injury concerns. I assume the OP was about passing on Ace...but he's exactly the type of prospect doomed to bust here and compound on to the problems with all of his rumored sketchiness.

Like the show and will listen, but Steven Ruiz is awful to listen to. He's a Panthers fan which makes it worse. I don't expect Bryce to have glowing reviews, but to have him ranked 34th last season behind some miserable options, and his rankings in general...yeesh.

Would make sense. They've been selling the white helmet for a couple of years now. Same as the black helmet. It was for sell for a year+...then announced as a new uniform combo. Silver is gone, white & black are in. Silver and the OG logo become our throwback uniform.

I mean...uniforms?

Realizing we're getting closer to the 7th year of Matt Rhule's proclamation

Rather have Pratt than Jaire. Pratt would help solidify the LB group in a big way IMO.

One year incentive heavy deal to not impact the future, to come home and try to cash in next year, why not? Don't offer anything crazy, but at least throw in an offer. He's Horn insurance, Horn is Jaire insurance, if they're both on the field we're thrilled. If the season isn't going well, trade him to a contender mid-year and get a draft pick for our troubles.

Dan had to of wanted the Rams 2025 1st, filler this year, 2026 1st and 2nd? More? I don't know if #26 in 2025 and probably another pick in 25-28 range in 2026 gets it done.

Taking into account contracts, I'm right there with you. Would you rather have Bryce have 10-12 million, or Tua at 50? Easy answer. Just in general, I do think Bryce is capable of being a Top 10 QB after what he showed to end the season. He just needs to come out and take that next step this year before I think anyone fully buys in.

No argument with 20, which is surely heavily slanted based on the end of last season. He needs to climb to a no doubt Top 10-15 this year or draft conversations are going to get interesting.

This is one of the biggest issues, and speaks to Evero in general. He's so reluctant or outright unwilling to change his scheme and it's probably his downfall as a coach now and in the future. At the end of the day, put your best guy on their best guy. If they win, so be it. But you can't look back and say damn, what could we have done differently?

If Bryce plays like 2nd half Bryce from last year, 8 wins or so I'd think. Which, we could've been a 6 or 7 win team last year if we got that Bryce all year long. The defense is improved and better by default which I think is worth a win or two. We'll need some luck on our side for anything better (welp), but if this is another 4-6 win season, I'll be depressed.

I'm excited for Scourton. Even if the sack numbers aren't there right away, he'll contribute and has a certain floor IMO. Would be thrilled if he can turn into a Charles Johnson-type contributor one day. Never a star (though, please do), but reliable and damn good at what he does.

Corbett is on a one year deal, which is twice as long as he'll be healthy based off of his career. I like Mays, a lot. But he was thrown into center because of the above. Christensen I guess is your 3rd? Another one year deal, who's maybe our LT, maybe our LG, etc. depending on injuries.

Don't like letting Raym go. For an UFA, I thought he was a nice depth piece with how bare we are at Center.

Julian Blackmon, come on down.

I've gone back to buying Panthers merch for the first time in a couple of years. Have some optimism for the first time since we drafted Bryce, which quickly met it's downfall. Don't fug this up, Panthers.

If Bryce plays well, I think we're a 8-9 win team. I expect the Saints will suck, Atlanta will be their typical selves and around 6-8 wins, and Tampa is on top until proven otherwise. I *could* see Tampa take a step back after a couple years of losing their offensive braintrust and Todd Bowles makes some dumb decisions. We're likely still a year away without some luck, but I feel like we're finally trending in the right direction.

Will Johnson, Mike Green (eh), Nick Emmanwori, Donvoan EZ, Shavon Revel, Carson Schwesinger Feel like any of those guys could/should be targets. I'm partial to any of the guys with a hard to pronounce name.

This is the one pick that I might be most against. I've cooled on Jalon Walker after listening to too many podcasts and have my hopes up for Graham now, but Stewart at 8, or even in the teens after a trade down, and I'm not thrilled.

I do think there's some truth to this. If there's not a big gap between guys you have ranked 8th to 80th, why not add "something". Granted, I don't want to add crap for the sake of adding crap, but might be the FO's MO here in a bad draft and just needing to build depth and hopefully get lucky on a starter or two. Also why I've gone more towards position value be damned to a certain extent. If Warren is a blue chip guy for instance...I'd rather take the blue chip guy at TE than a DE that some teams think is a 1st rounder, others think is a 2nd rounder, etc. It's a weird draft, and I don't think a lot of the age old parameters necessarily work when looking at it.