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Only team I really see getting into a bidding war is the Raiders (if they don’t land Rodgers)

Going by the draft value chart The difference between pick 3 and 9 is 850 points Pick 39 for us holds a value of 510 points Pick 61 for us holds a value of 292 points. Both 2nd and our 4th will be 18 more points on the Value scale than the difference of 3 and 9 Just our 2 2nds this year comes close to the difference in value without taking future 1sts

That same fan base hated Burrow and like Haskins. Ill trust the People who covers NFL opinion over some Ohio State fans.

This I will agree with.

Did the Wentz or Goff trade hurt them though? Rams still made it as far as we did with Cam. And the Eagles won a Super Bowl a few years later

He won a whopping 2 more games than Sam Darnold this season and people aren’t out here saying sign a Jameis Winston or Trubisky in FA instead of trading up for one in the draft

We really using a 5-6 game stretch of Purdy with a near perfect roster as gospel not to trade up for a QB?

But again it really doesn’t work that that. Because that level of QB prospect doesn’t fall outside the top 5

How is it? you saying this isn’t a QB thirsty league. I’d love to see the data to prove otherwise.

My original post was regarding Stroud not Young. And I don’t think we get to 1 for Young. This is about moving up to 3 or 2 (if the bears move with the Texans) If you don’t move to 3 and get one. What’s the plan? Bpa at 9 and roll with Darnold. Then what’s the plan going forward? Because you will be picking 22 range next year as Scott Fitterer said. And if you think the price to move from 9 is a lot. What do you think it’ll be to move from outside the top 20?

It is a big risk. But it’s not like we’re taking one with a empty roster. This is the same roster that was a quarter away from winning the division with Sam Darnold, PJ Walker, and Baker rotating in at QB. With the division getting a couple games head start with Rhule starting g the year as HC. You need a top QB in this sport if your goal is to compete for championships (and I’m not talking Division titles). The only way your getting one of those is licking you and getting a top 2 pick in a good QB class. Or taking a big swing. The days of Aaron Rodger falling to the the bottom of the 1st are gone. It’s too thirsty of a league for QBs.

The reason I ask. While I like Young. I love Stroud as well. and seeing Daniel Jeremiah saying Stroud had one of the best sessions he’s seen at the combine. We’ve also seen our new QB coach on record of comparing Stroud to Burrow. We also heard in press conferences recently where Reich said McCown has sat down and talked QBs with Reich. Now as far as trade We heard the rumors the last 2 years with the Watson saga. That we could offer up to a ridiculous 3 1sts and some defensive starters like Burns, Brown, Chinn. I don’t know what the final offer got to from us. And we’ll never know. But we do know the thing that made Tepper pull out was the $$$ he was wanting. With Stroud, it’s the opposite. That rookie deal is something that adds to the attraction Now knowing that we have a top 5-10 young edge rusher (we can have that argument elsewhere), and I am certain he will be extended. we have a stable big interior DL guy in Brown we have a #1 shut down CB we have a #1 WR we have a good young LT along with a fairly good Young OL with one of the top OL coaches in the NFL. We have a elite staff on paper. With a good track record with QBs. Creating a perfect cacoon for a young QB. So if our staff feels Stroud is a Burrow level QB. How much is Too much picks to trade for him? Now I know the other argument of other holes. But those holes aren’t at big foundation pieces like I listed above. And this is where that Franchise QB on the rookie deal comes in handy. Allowing more flexibility in FA to fill those other filler pieces. So how much is to much?

Some “outliers” at WR this year

Meanwhile We really got people freaking out not to draft a QB this draft. And Not to draft a “skinny QB” yet want to draft a “outlier” skinny WR in the top 10?

Alright diphead ARich has spent 3 years at Florida= 3years removed from HS when he went pro Cam spent 2 years at Florida, 1 at Juco, 1 at Auburn= 4 years removed from HS

This is ARich’s 3rd year out of HS Cam spent 2 at Florida, 1 at Blinn, 1 at Auburn.

Since Hand Size was the hot topic with QBs last year To put in perspective Cam 9 7/8 Trevor Lawerence 10 Josh Allen 10 1/8 Justin Herbert 10 ARich 10 1/2

I’ll say this. Cam was No Question a much better passer than him. But. I’m not so sure you could dismiss this if you are talking same point of their career and age. Was Cam that much better at Blinn Juco as a Passer than ARich now?

Btw here is Cam’s combine Measurements compared to ARich’s

Lastly. You have to think. Many have said well we should wait until 2024 for a QB. That class would be better. Anthony would’ve been QB3 with potential to fight his way into that top 2 in 2024 had he went back to school. As Fitty said “I don’t won’t to draft in the top 10 again. It will cost a lot more to move from 22.” So take him where we are now? or wait until 24 and trade More to move up for a lesser player?

FWIW Dan Mullen who has coached and been around some good QBs (Cam and Dak). Said ARich is the most talented player he’s been around. so take that how you want.

I’ve stood next to him and next to Cam. they are cut from the same cloth as far as Size and athletic ability. He’s raw but has the talent. Really good kid, and is coachable. As you notice his improvements as the year went on last year. he’s still Young as well, Cam Newton was still at Blinn Juco at the same point of their careers