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Did I miss that?

CJ will go down as one of the greatest Panthers of all time if he plays out his career here. Criminally under appreciated by the fanbase.

Wait did you just scoop yourself on this??

Panthro wins the huddle today.

Like jmac said dude played college ball at Illinois, all offers being similar maybe he wanted to go home for the last years of his career. It's not unheard of.

I understand that, but my point is people can't just state thing as if they are fact like Nicks would have been better than Cotchery last season on our team because there is literally no factual or anecdotal evidence to backup such a claim. It's merely another aww man Gettleman didn't sign someone who is better than the guy we got because I say so.

2014 Season Comparison Receptions/Targets Cotchery: 48/78 Nicks: 38/68 Yards Cotchery: 580 Nicks: 405 Yards Per Reception Cotchery: 12.1 Nicks: 10.7 Touchdowns Cotchery: 1 Nicks: 4 There is literally nothing at all to suggest that Nicks would have been better than Cotchery for us last year except for the grass is always greener fan bases wishing for it.

I understand that you're being facetious, but in all fairness, Hakeem Nicks went on to do nothing last year so Gettleman's approach actually kind of worked.

Yeah we have to keep CJ around not only because he is a beast but also because Ealy is still very much an unknown and we can't go from having a beastly defensive line to losing two great pass rushers over the course of a couple seasons. It would absolutely cripple the team and how they like to play defense.

That high, huh?

There has never been anything in Hardy's past comments or actions that would indicate he ever had any inclination to go anywhere for less than top dollar.

Unfortunately they go somewhat hand in hand these days. He can't really come out and say yeah I let him go because you fugers would never let me live it down if I didn't.

I haven't heard this before. If true, Hardy had to go and the same would apply to Cam, Luke, Kalil, Olsen and anyone else on the team. Football is great and all, but that would be tough to recover from on a business level.

This exactly. I don't agree with it but I understand his reasoning.

Lolwut

Yes I do. I will be at a Panthers home game soon and we can go lift together pre-game.

Friend me IRL.

See this is shitty because every person that pops up in this thread I'm like how did I not mention this guy?

Igo would like to thank you in advance for what will surely turn into a 400 post thread.

Add Floppin to my list too. Can't believe I forgot to add you. My bad.

Mr. Scot is like the Huddle elder statesman. Jangler always has a perfect picture to go with any given subject, and PhillyB is very knowledgeable for damn near everything. I also like teeray and p55 and RumGone and Growl and Proudiddy even if I don't agree with some things they may say. But frash.exe is the best and this place would suck without him. He just needs to change his picture back to smug American Psycho Christian Bale because that's who I see when I read his posts.

We had the same discussion last year and I'm sure we'll have the same discussion next year. If each player a team scouts is given a numerical value 1-100 and is put on a board, then all other things being equal, yes, need will win out. So if our pick comes up and there are five guys that are rated relatively close to each other, let's say a left tackle rated an 75, two wide receivers rated at 83 and 84, a cornerback at 85, and a defensive tackle at 97. Under this scenario, there is no doubt in my mind that Gettleman picks the defensive tackle because he is overwhelmingly superior to the other players. Now of course it doesn't fill an immediate need, but as I stated before, rosters are a fluid entity that change constantly so what isn't a need right now might be a need soon. Now let's take this same scenario and say the defensive tackle is an 84-85 value. In this scenario, I believe the team can go with the wideout over the defensive tackle, because even though the DT is technically the best player available, it is by such a minuscule margin that you can get the value there that you are looking for while also fulfilling an immediate need. I would argue that in neither of these scenarios is it ok to take the left tackle, regardless of how badly we need one. Reason being, you simply can't pass up on either of the remaining players mentioned that are far superior to that player. Maybe, and it's a small maybe, if that tackle was as high as say an 83 could you entertain it, but even then it's a tough call I'd rather not make. But then that's why the front office is in the war room and I'm writing this from the bathroom (shoutout to SCP). Because those are the calls they need to make during a draft that changes with each passing pick.

Mock drafts mean fug all. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

Again, show me something that says they drafted him to play OLB and I'll happily concede that you are right and I am wrong. Saying well they had Beason in the middle doesn't count.

I genuinely believe that our recent picks filled a need by coincidence, not need. Gettleman was glowing when talking about Benjamin. Can't coach 6'5" 240 blah blah. He wanted that guy and didn't delay when he was still on the board at our pick, regardless of a need at WR.