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If Corral had been playing for Georgia, he'd have beat Baker's ass. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article263221493.html "The Panthers did call Corral to inform him of the trade and ensured him that he is still their future of the position, according to a league source." If anyone crowned his ass, it wasn't me.
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I see Sam to the Rams possibly in the near future...
top dawg replied to musicman's topic in Carolina Panthers
The bulk of the team sucked last year. Only Panthers fans are--rightly or wronly--putting the bulk of the blame on Darnold. Darnold's perceived potential across the league has not exactly run dry. But we need this to happen soon... -
You're welcome.
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Probably not, for real...
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Robbie Anderson interview w Josina Anderson.
top dawg replied to Ivan The Awesome's topic in Carolina Panthers
Robbie did exactly what he said that he was going to do, you questionable motherfugers that shitted my post. He was key to Mayfield's success today and was at his best. fug y'all! -
Just hit the share icon on the tweet on Twitter, hit the copy post icon and paste the link here.
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You're just giving Igo an imaginary hand towards his own gratification.
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Actually, he's not trying to make a statement, just doing his own thing before the team gets out there.
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Rippadong! LMFAO
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Corral didn't play as many games as Baker in college. He also played in the SEC , and that means a lot whether you want to acknowledge it or not. Furthermore, when you add in the rushing production, the numbers are a lot closer. You are trying to act like I don't want to give MC9 time to develop, but I have lots of posts saying and suggesting that very thing. I have been consistent with it, and anyone paying attention knows that. I should be the one saying "sheesh," because of the seemingly concerted effort by some to try and downplay the kid's skills when it comes to Mayfield. Talking about "irritating..."
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Robbie Anderson interview w Josina Anderson.
top dawg replied to Ivan The Awesome's topic in Carolina Panthers
Come on, people. I know that some of y'all are better than this. You'd think that Robbie was speaking tlhIngan Hol. Just because he isn't speaking the King's English in a Standard English sort of way doesn't mean that he isn't communicating, and communicating effectively. If you can't understand or just simply want to clown him due to manner in which he speaks, then that just makes me raise an eyebrow towards you on several different fronts.- 27 replies
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Ellis Williams write up Day 5. Baker vs Sam
top dawg replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I expect day 2 tomorrow now. Thanks. -
First off, I was responding to a slight on Corral. In my opinion, it's a stretch to say Baker has "significantly better" arm talent than Corral, especially when there is ample information in articles, vids, draft profiles and scouting reports that list Corral's arm talent as a plus (if not more). Secondly, much of the same information mentions Corral's arm strength as a plus (e.g. in relation to his arm, "cannon" and "live" are terms used). Third, if you throw the ball 77 yards, you throw the ball 77 yards. There's no need to belittle the feat. If someone gets "irritated" at Corral for me giving pushback to what I deem is misinformation or unfair knocks, then they have some issues. As for Baker, sorry that you deem readily available information on him that is indicative of his body of work as a "knock." He's going to have to improve upon his decision making, demonstrate greater field vision, be more consistent with his mechanics, and show up in crunch time, and simply be better than he was in Cleveland before I crown his ass. And that doesn't have anything to do with Corral who has already been told that he is the future of the franchise. So, sooner or later--likely later--he will get his chance. Darnold and Mayfield have been in the league for four years and have not proven to be elite, and that's just the way it is.
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Baker's pass was the longest in an NFL game. He threw the ball 70.5 yards (essentially without any pressure whatsoever. Look at the play). Corral threw the all 77 yards in a throwing competition before college. Take from it what you will. My point is that his arm is plenty strong. Many people, including analysts, have rightfully referred to his arm as a "cannon."
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Arm strength and arm talent aren't necessarily the same thing. Indeed there is no consensus definition for "arm talent." That being said, in my opinion it does consist of several throwing traits, including arm strength, accuracy and touch. I'd include mechanics because they can speak directly to the others, but I'll leave them out, lest there's some huge disagreement. Baker's arm is strong. His accuracy is OK, but hasn't been nearly as good as his college days. His touch is suspect. His mechanics are inconsistent. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/02/where-baker-mayfield-was-hit-and-miss-with-his-passes-in-2021.html%3foutputType=amp. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/01/the-baker-mayfield-stats-that-explain-his-2021-season-with-the-browns.html%3foutputType=amp. Here is also an interesting article on QB traits. You can take it FWIW, but according to some analysts at ESPN, there are traits that QBs should excel in to succeed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32050570/nfl-quarterback-council-2021-ranking-top-10-qbs-arm-strength-accuracy-decision-making-rushing-ability-more%3fplatform=amp. You're exactly right, Corral will get his day.
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The Mayfield-Higgind link should prove to be a beneficial connection for all parties involved, and may be even a little understated. There's some legit chemistry there that Mayfield and Higgins should utilize if they're smart.
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You aren't going to accept ANY info regarding Corral's arm talent. The "significantly better" argument is pretty much yours and yours alone. Plenty of people take my arguments seriously. Are you daft? I'm not trying to be juvenile (but I must in this exchange), but I am a valued poster on this site. Can you say the same? Other than being a mod, what do you do, but lead the whine crowd. Just stop! It's not befitting of a moderator!
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Google algorithms change ALL the time. For you to pretend that you can't find information on Mayfield's arm talent is inaccurate, and frankly weak as hell. But, it hardly matters, your opinion is just that, regardless of how you want to make it some fact supported by most NFL experts. Basically, you're full of it, and got the nerve to call me an ass? Just say "We agree to disagree." Find your supportive links that show the world where Mayfield's arm talent is "significantly better" than Corral's and I'll be happy to take you seriously. Until then, your opinion is hollow.
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You do realize that is mainly related to news results? Some content is Evergreen. Like draft profiles and scouting reports and such are likely not going to disappear for awhile. Bottom line: you can generally find any information you're looking for with the "right" search terms.
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Oh, so now you're an expert on Google search results? Now show me where search queries are based on recency bias? I'm waiting.
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Arm strength and talent aren't exactly the same thing, but whatever. Baker isn't even as strong as Corral, but you keep believing yourself. When Baker throws the ball 77 yards, then talk to me.
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I don't here anyone talking about Baker Mayfield's arm talent. All you have to do is Google "Corral and arm talent" and likewise "Mayfield and arm talent" and see the results. Simple as that.
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I'll take Simms' evaluation over yours. Sorry.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/video-5-star-sec-target-matt-corral-throws-77-yard-pass-opening/amp/ https://www.nbcsports.com/video/chris-simms-matt-corral-has-special-arm-talent Don't tell me anything about Corral's arm talent.
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Bull. That's crap. I called you on it before, and I'm calling it on you now. You act like the tale of the tape has shown some type of amazing arm talent from Mayfield. The fact is that he's been a disappointment.